McLean to Explore Separating from FC & FCPS
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Anonymous
Exactly this. Whether or not this proposal ever comes to fruition, the insecurity and resentment is dripping from some of these posts. It’s clear that the idea of McLean/Great Falls forging their own path is not popular - among those who would simply miss the cash they bring in. |
Anonymous
DP. Ok? There are plenty of people living in McLean who *would* support it. |
Anonymous
+1. |
Anonymous
| Many McLean neighbors don’t support this for valid reasons. If the MCCA members want to live in a exclusive club, go ahead and live on Entitlement Fantasy Island. Access is by boat only. |
Anonymous
Agreed. Another McLean resident here who does NOT support this idea. |
Anonymous
It would be more like living in a place where you know where you could would attend school and the schools would actually be maintained than an exclusive club, but if you want to keep being a doormat there is no shortage of people in the county who will gladly take your money and spend it to benefit anyone other than kids in McLean and Great Falls. Or upzone your neighborhood to allow for greater density while doing nothing to plan ahead for the additional infrastructure this necessitates. I used to think spreading all the resources around the county was better, but having seen just how little attention those in control of FCPS pay to our kids and schools compared to those in other parts of the county I’ve concluded One Fairfax is a sham. |
Anonymous
For just McLean HS alone, the bill would be $43 million dollars up front, according to the assessment, assuming it was sold at fair value. Now, add at least 2 or 3 elementary schools, at least 1 or 2 middle schools, a police station, a library, a courthouse, some parks, etc. That’s an awful lot of start-up taxes the residents of McLean would have to pony up to secede. MAP #: 0304 01 0019 SCHOOL BOARD OF FAIRFAX COUNTY 1633 DAVIDSON RD Values Tax Year 2020 Current Land $25,636,000 Current Building $17,686,880 Current Assessed Total $43,322,880 Tax Exempt YES Note |
Anonymous
+100 Well said. I think the people claiming to live in McLean and saying they’re against this are just trolls. What, exactly, would be the downside? |
Anonymous
Of course you do, because you and your fellow MCA bullies can't deal with fellow McLean residents (like me) who think this is a bad idea, so you simply start mocking them or saying that anyone who disagrees with you MUST be a troll. Very telling... The downside? Amassing hundreds of millions of dollars in debt to pay for all the costs associated with incorporation (e.g., legal fees, studies, purchase of county property and facilities, establishing a city government, etc.) without any real guarantee that McLean could actually govern itself better as a city and provide better services, including school services, to its residents. I've lived in McLean for over 20 years. I still have kids at McLean HS - both of whom are doing quite well and have bright futures ahead. I like my house. I like my street. I like my neighbors and neighborhood. Fairfax County isn't perfect, but I'm not going to support an "initiative" that seeks to significantly jack up my property taxes just so other people who failed to make it into Chevy Chase or ("insert gated community of choice here") can feel better about themselves. And I know from talking with my neighbors that I'm hardly alone. |
Anonymous
Negotiable? For what? Something less than fair market value? Lol. |
Anonymous
Pork and slop food from spoiled meat. December FCPS school board meetings and presentations. Food chain of responsibility and then dates: Jeff Platenberg, Assistant Superintendent, Facilities and Transportation Services < Marty Smith, Chief Operating Officer <Scott Brabrand, Division Superintendent And then we have the Regionals for 1 and 2. Let us not forget Tholen, Fritsch, maybe Hunter Mill plus 3 at large school board members. Mclean High School Boundary Adjustment page https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/mclean-high-school-proposed December 7, 2020 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FINAL_Presentation%20for%20McLean%20Langley%20Dec%207%202020.pdf And 342 feed to TJ from Mclean and Langley. 10 days after that Boundary Document was the TJ vote. That TJ process has been the subject of board meetings for months. Was the Mclean boundary study updated with scenarios from the vote or even presented with scenarios that included potential impacts? Go to Storck and Mackay recorded n the 6/25/2019 Board of Supervisors meeting discussing the FCPS 2019 bond referendum. I didn't say it - they did about the now out to bid West Potomac addition and yet here we are. http://video.fairfaxcounty.gov/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=7 Italics copied and pasted from closed captions 2:32 storck-to allow not to have to create a 3,000 seat school more or less, I'm frankly concerned about that. 2:32:52 mackay-completely agree with what supervisor storck just said. I know shooting the messenger here, I add that the obvious elephant in the room there is a school adjacent to west potomac with capacity. When we talk about the cip and needs, some capacity constraints are driven by the academic...just about the money, and clearly if you know the history between mount vernon high school and potomac high school a big chunk of the capacity issues don't deal with the capacity but deal with perception, false > |
Anonymous
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Right, it’s basically mismanagement at both ends of the county. They have never justified publicly why it makes sense to expand West Potomac to 3000 seats, ensuring the continued negative perception of Mount Vernon, while keeping McLean under 2000 permanent seats as schools all around it are built out to higher capacities.
It’s not like people haven’t been trying to work within the system to get them to focus on their responsibilities. Hell, even members of the Board of Supervisors called them out, although of course they didn’t actually do anything about it. It is a bloated, mismanaged system, and the School Board elected in 2019 has only made things worse now by changing TJ admissions with no consideration of the enrollment impacts on other schools. Just imagine, in comparison, how much more manageable a school system that didn’t have 198 schools would be, or how much more responsible and less frazzled the local School Board would be. |
Anonymous
So it generates no tax revenues and has a bunch of ongoing expenses associated with its upkeep and operation. The actual transfer would reflect those liabilities as well as the putative value of the asset. If this were to move forward, the county could use title to these facilities as a bargaining chip, but it also doesn’t want to have a protracted fight with McLean and Great Falls - which would receive far more publicity than some DCUM thread - about the dissatisfaction of a significant number of its residents with county services and schools. It certainly won’t be something the Fairfax County EDA would welcome, nor would it facilitate in any way their efforts to turn Tysons into “America’s Next Great City.” |
Anonymous
You sound ridiculous. This is what it's like living in NoVa supporting the rest of the state. Living in CA ad NY, supporting the rest of rural states. This is how it works in America. You're free to move. |
Anonymous
You sound ignorant. A change would be more like living in much of the Mid-Atlantic, Northeast and Midwest, and a little less like living in the South where county-wide government is the norm and counties operate county-wide school systems (the difference being that those counties are usually considerably smaller than giant Fairfax County). You’re free to do more research next time. |