Sideline Karens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

You’re conflating cheering with jeering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

YES. there is a problem with some of those comments. You are implying negative performance, "we have to win those balls". "let's get some rebounds--after they miss a rebound. etc. Do you not see how those comments are negative?

[Anonymous]

Of course they don’t see it. These are the clueless dough bag parents we all know from travel teams. They live vicariously through their children and do much damage to their own children, their children’s team mates, and children in the opposing teams. A call from the owner means this was outrageous behavior. Time for some self reflection OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

Of course parents should yell at the refs. That's how you get them to make the right calls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course they don’t see it. These are the clueless dough bag parents we all know from travel teams. They live vicariously through their children and do much damage to their own children, their children’s team mates, and children in the opposing teams. A call from the owner means this was outrageous behavior. Time for some self reflection OP.

Come on - you don't think this post actually happened do you? The whole thing and half the answers are trolls. I imagine the OP has posted half a dozen times at least on this thread with varying points of view in order to keep it going. I'm going to give him 7/10 for trolling. On the plus side he got good particpation with plenty of emotion and 8 pages of posts. On the downside it's not nearly as funny as the kissy-kissy thread from a few days ago - I'd give that one an 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

YES. there is a problem with some of those comments. You are implying negative performance, "we have to win those balls". "let's get some rebounds--after they miss a rebound. etc. Do you not see how those comments are negative?

Point taken, but it's not nasty by any means. These are common things to say to remind them to raise their effort and good things will happen. Noone is saying...Hey Jimmy, your effort sucks. As to the poster below...I say things all the time and my kid nor his teammates get bothered. They say these things to each other. Coach says these things. etc. Maybe think about how someone saying..."hey, let's get to those rebounds quicker" damages your kid. You may have an issue or two on your own hands. And to the..."living vicariously"...yeah, just another thing parents say to make them sound smarter. You should have lead off with...I played D1 soccer 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

The fact that your examples of harmless good fun/enjoyment comments are both inane and d**kish (albeit not at soccer parent psychopath level) lead me to believe your insight is poor on this subject.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, another parent thought he was being "quiet" while criticizing my son during a game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just started travel this year, so maybe my expectations are off. Wanted to get a gut check:

Spouse gets a little enthusiastic on the sidelines. Never calls out any individual player by name (other than our kid), but may call out if the defense or offense is lacking. Nothing mean-spirited, mostly encouragement. Sure, there were also some private parent-to-parent conversations on the sideline that may have been more critical, but nothing loud enough for a player or even another parent in the stands to hear . . . unless they were eavesdropping.

Yesterday, after the tournament weekend, spouse gets a call from the OWNER of the club dressing him down for his sideline behavior. Another parent on the team got the same call. I would have thought adults could have a conversation with each other, or even with the coach, before involving the owner of the entire organization.

IS THIS NORMAL?

Why are you calling your spouse, a man the name Karen ? Why are we using women's names for poor behavior on men? Stop it please. We no longer use only female names for hurricanes and we shouldnt use Karen instead of the term jerk or Ahole

And this is exactly the kind of behavior we expect from a (fill in the blank but you know what this is). Thank you for your lecture.

You are both idiots. OP was calling the parents who presumably reported her asshole husband the sideline 'Karens,' never mind that the coaches probably did it themselves.

Her DH must have been a massive jerk though because the standard for that sort of response by the club is high.

I got that. But humorless boobs like you inevitably miss the point. The language and gender lecture is itself Karenal behavior. Twit.

So you are an idiot and also not funny. Okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

YES. there is a problem with some of those comments. You are implying negative performance, "we have to win those balls". "let's get some rebounds--after they miss a rebound. etc. Do you not see how those comments are negative?

Point taken, but it's not nasty by any means. These are common things to say to remind them to raise their effort and good things will happen. Noone is saying...Hey Jimmy, your effort sucks. As to the poster below...I say things all the time and my kid nor his teammates get bothered. They say these things to each other. Coach says these things. etc. Maybe think about how someone saying..."hey, let's get to those rebounds quicker" damages your kid. You may have an issue or two on your own hands. And to the..."living vicariously"...yeah, just another thing parents say to make them sound smarter. You should have lead off with...I played D1 soccer 20 years ago.

But was the point taken, though?

[Anonymous]

You should be glad they called. We had a parent or two like that on a team in the past. For a few years, everyone gritted their teeth and suffered through it. Not only was their sideline commentary obnoxious, it was in some situations contrary to what coaches had asked of the players, and it was negatively impacting the team. So when half the team decided to move on, everybody left the know-it-all dads who arrogantly and more loudly than they realized criticized half of the team out of the loop. They were left fuming when the replacements were even further below their standards. It would have been better for everyone if the club had addressed it and told the dads to shut it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should be glad they called. We had a parent or two like that on a team in the past. For a few years, everyone gritted their teeth and suffered through it. Not only was their sideline commentary obnoxious, it was in some situations contrary to what coaches had asked of the players, and it was negatively impacting the team. So when half the team decided to move on, everybody left the know-it-all dads who arrogantly and more loudly than they realized criticized half of the team out of the loop. They were left fuming when the replacements were even further below their standards. It would have been better for everyone if the club had addressed it and told the dads to shut it.

+10000 As a parent, when I hear our sideline coaches(the parents) making comments about the kids on the field, I just cringe. They are always front and center at every games ready to coaches and criticize these kids. From start to finish this parent had comments about everything; be stronger, we have to win those balls, hurry up/run, serve the ball, midfield where are you etc . However, they would also comeback with positive comment when players made good plays. I think at some point this can become very annoying to the kids and the parents. The sad part about the whole situation, is the team will eventually isolate themselves from the kid whose parents always have something to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just started travel this year, so maybe my expectations are off. Wanted to get a gut check:

Spouse gets a little enthusiastic on the sidelines. Never calls out any individual player by name (other than our kid), but may call out if the defense or offense is lacking. Nothing mean-spirited, mostly encouragement. Sure, there were also some private parent-to-parent conversations on the sideline that may have been more critical, but nothing loud enough for a player or even another parent in the stands to hear . . . unless they were eavesdropping.

Yesterday, after the tournament weekend, spouse gets a call from the OWNER of the club dressing him down for his sideline behavior. Another parent on the team got the same call. I would have thought adults could have a conversation with each other, or even with the coach, before involving the owner of the entire organization.

IS THIS NORMAL?

No. This is disgraceful. I would immediately remove your kid from the team and find a club that will welcome your family as you deserve. Sideline input from parents is very important for for the growth of the kids - and its especially important that they get feedback from parents who are not their own parents because their own parents tend to have trouble seeing the faults in their own kids' abilities. Wherever you go you should encourage your DH to carry on providing input. Some other parents may initially resist but they will come around as they see their kids improve as a consequence.

haha, sucks to be your kids. you are truly an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just sit and watch the game?

Because it's a sport and sports have "fans". People cheer. People enjoy watching their kid. People get excited. People like to enjoy it. I agree that noone should ever be negative to a player. There is no problem being engaged and saying....Let's go Jimmy! We need you. Or We have to win those balls. Let's get some rebounds. Get ready. Here comes a punt. or general things. I'm not saying yell...Shoot! Shoot! Pass! Pass! Parents should not yell at refs. Etc. But to be silent is crazy. One time, something happened and the parents were quiet. My son came off and said...."did we play that bad? Noone was saying anything." He knows that when the parents are noisy, things are going well. Soccer's fun. Enjoy it.

Of course parents should yell at the refs. That's how you get them to make the right calls.

...you get them to make any questionable call for the other team by being a d-bag.