Next season tryouts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your DC is on a lower team, there is no need to pay a dime. When clubs that are left pick up the pieces and continue in 2021, there will be an opportunity to pay and rejoin. They will need ALL the money from as many as they can get. Don't get sucked into false promises of moving up to the top A or B team now for a fall season of Zoom soccer, and then just get displaced in 2021.

If you are on A or B at a big club, no need to pay either. They will pressure parents and tell them their DC's spot is "lost" and it will go to someone else, but once things begin in 2021 there will be big opportunities for players to rejoin and pay then. Every honest coach will tell you this. Do you know any coaches? Come on folks.

There are lots of coaches and club admins posting on here trying to keep things optimistic before a critical mass of parents start pulling out of the Zoom meetings and training leaderboards nonsense. They know that as parents find out there is no hope of Fall soccer, then the whole club crumbles over summer and big club cuts have to happen.

It is amazing how Disneyworld gives back refunds on paid-in annual passes, but so many parents are so scared of upsetting their coach or club that they are afraid to stop forcing their DC to do this virtual stuff, le alone request a refund. Give your money to an unemployed family instead of paying for Fall Zoom soccer because you are a scared rule-follower.

Lots of clubs don't like posts like this, so expect a backlash. We told both of our coaches our DCs couldn't do any of this online virtual soccer right now, and they were totally fine with it and understood and appreciated the honesty. Both top players on A teams. We do our own thing when we can (twice a week) at a privately owned grass area. We told them we would be back in touch at summertime once we had the bandwidth to deal with more stuff.

NO PROBLEM OR BACKLASH AT ALL from the coach and club. Both my DC will play on a local top A team come 2021, promise you that. And if our current club has an a-hole who somehow comes in and forces our DC out to 3rd or 4th team (and every other A/B family that has refused to put down more money), then there are a lot of other options in town.

Without Fall soccer, clubs' survivals are at issue and they don't want any family to start a snowball effect by being the first to opt out. Well, we did at our club. With neither my wife or I working and all these health issues and home schooling . . . well, Zoom soccer become a total charade.

I agree with everything said in this post. My question is will these clubs try to use these zoom meetings and soccer apps as a means of fulfilling their coaching obligation? In other words are they going to say "no credit or refund" because we were interacting with the team during the pandemic.

Yes, they will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think what I'm reading is at least someone feels that....once the govt allows soccer to reopen (or any non essential businesses), it should be everyone's "duty" to get back out there and get the economy going back to as normal as possible so that people's lively hood can get back to normal as soon as possible. If we don't, businesses will fold, people will struggle, etc even more if we don't...even though that it's true that some of the kids will get infected and bring it home and spread it. When that happens, the hospitals should be ready. However, some people will die (most likely not the kids though) but we need to come to terms that there will be deaths for the greater good where the greater good is getting the economy back on its feet. I think this is what that TX gov was saying when he said something like...I'd rather be dead than to let the economy crumble. There will be alot of soul searching in this regard, but I just don't see youth soccer as being the choice where parents are willing to take the risk. That's why I agree that youth soccer will not be the same for a long time and it won't make sense to start up in June. I don't think there will be ENOUGH interest. Clubs will have skeleton crews as coaching staff and teams.

I am the PP. No. absolutely not. Please feel free to stay home if you can. Nobody should be obliged to do it. But if r<1, and local government permits the activity, don’t tell us we cannot do it if there is sufficient interest. Leave that up to individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what I'm reading is at least someone feels that....once the govt allows soccer to reopen (or any non essential businesses), it should be everyone's "duty" to get back out there and get the economy going back to as normal as possible so that people's lively hood can get back to normal as soon as possible. If we don't, businesses will fold, people will struggle, etc even more if we don't...even though that it's true that some of the kids will get infected and bring it home and spread it. When that happens, the hospitals should be ready. However, some people will die (most likely not the kids though) but we need to come to terms that there will be deaths for the greater good where the greater good is getting the economy back on its feet. I think this is what that TX gov was saying when he said something like...I'd rather be dead than to let the economy crumble. There will be alot of soul searching in this regard, but I just don't see youth soccer as being the choice where parents are willing to take the risk. That's why I agree that youth soccer will not be the same for a long time and it won't make sense to start up in June. I don't think there will be ENOUGH interest. Clubs will have skeleton crews as coaching staff and teams.

I am the PP. No. absolutely not. Please feel free to stay home if you can. Nobody should be obliged to do it. But if r<1, and local government permits the activity, don’t tell us we cannot do it if there is sufficient interest. Leave that up to individuals.

I also think that there is more than the economy at stake. You don’t know that a vaccine will work, or when, or how quickly or widely it would be distributed. So another part of the flattening the curve, then reopening with distance, is driven by a rational design for herd immunity where you have knowing probable exposure to elements of the population most able to tolerate it without death or serious illness. If we get to 40-60% exposure, vaccines may not be necessary. But I don’t think we know enough about the incidence, transmission or progression of the virus in subpopulations to do this for medical reasons alone. But yeah, if we are talking 30-40% unemployment, starvation, no health care for noncoronavirus patients, massive economic dislocation for numerous individuals and small businesses, a pause in all clinical trials for all other conditions, and state and local bankruptcy, all that too.

[Anonymous]

Everyone can make decisions they feel best for their family but don’t expect the world to stop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your DC is on a lower team, there is no need to pay a dime. When clubs that are left pick up the pieces and continue in 2021, there will be an opportunity to pay and rejoin. They will need ALL the money from as many as they can get. Don't get sucked into false promises of moving up to the top A or B team now for a fall season of Zoom soccer, and then just get displaced in 2021.

If you are on A or B at a big club, no need to pay either. They will pressure parents and tell them their DC's spot is "lost" and it will go to someone else, but once things begin in 2021 there will be big opportunities for players to rejoin and pay then. Every honest coach will tell you this. Do you know any coaches? Come on folks.

There are lots of coaches and club admins posting on here trying to keep things optimistic before a critical mass of parents start pulling out of the Zoom meetings and training leaderboards nonsense. They know that as parents find out there is no hope of Fall soccer, then the whole club crumbles over summer and big club cuts have to happen.

It is amazing how Disneyworld gives back refunds on paid-in annual passes, but so many parents are so scared of upsetting their coach or club that they are afraid to stop forcing their DC to do this virtual stuff, le alone request a refund. Give your money to an unemployed family instead of paying for Fall Zoom soccer because you are a scared rule-follower.

Lots of clubs don't like posts like this, so expect a backlash. We told both of our coaches our DCs couldn't do any of this online virtual soccer right now, and they were totally fine with it and understood and appreciated the honesty. Both top players on A teams. We do our own thing when we can (twice a week) at a privately owned grass area. We told them we would be back in touch at summertime once we had the bandwidth to deal with more stuff.

NO PROBLEM OR BACKLASH AT ALL from the coach and club. Both my DC will play on a local top A team come 2021, promise you that. And if our current club has an a-hole who somehow comes in and forces our DC out to 3rd or 4th team (and every other A/B family that has refused to put down more money), then there are a lot of other options in town.

Without Fall soccer, clubs' survivals are at issue and they don't want any family to start a snowball effect by being the first to opt out. Well, we did at our club. With neither my wife or I working and all these health issues and home schooling . . . well, Zoom soccer become a total charade.

I agree with everything said in this post. My question is will these clubs try to use these zoom meetings and soccer apps as a means of fulfilling their coaching obligation? In other words are they going to say "no credit or refund" because we were interacting with the team during the pandemic.

Yes, they will.

Yes. Even our gymnastics is counting the bs zoom as a used class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone can make decisions they feel best for their family but don’t expect the world to stop

Well I haven't seen anyone at least on this thread say...soccer SHOULDN"T open this summer. The posters are mostly guessing that they won't and are giving reasons why they feel this way. Others are saying that if soccer doesn't reopen, coaches will starve and clubs will fold and this and that. With that said, I personally agree, if allowed, then clubs have the right to try to field a team. I just don't think those teams will be anything like the teams in the Fall. So many parents will not take the risk.

[Anonymous]

Ok so let's poll. Bsc sends girls invites today and boys next week. Pay in full for the entire year to secure your spot. Are you paying or not? If not, what's a good plan b. Just email them whenever play resumes (sept, dec, jan 2021.. whatever) and say "hey can we join now? "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your DC is on a lower team, there is no need to pay a dime. When clubs that are left pick up the pieces and continue in 2021, there will be an opportunity to pay and rejoin. They will need ALL the money from as many as they can get. Don't get sucked into false promises of moving up to the top A or B team now for a fall season of Zoom soccer, and then just get displaced in 2021.

If you are on A or B at a big club, no need to pay either. They will pressure parents and tell them their DC's spot is "lost" and it will go to someone else, but once things begin in 2021 there will be big opportunities for players to rejoin and pay then. Every honest coach will tell you this. Do you know any coaches? Come on folks.

There are lots of coaches and club admins posting on here trying to keep things optimistic before a critical mass of parents start pulling out of the Zoom meetings and training leaderboards nonsense. They know that as parents find out there is no hope of Fall soccer, then the whole club crumbles over summer and big club cuts have to happen.

It is amazing how Disneyworld gives back refunds on paid-in annual passes, but so many parents are so scared of upsetting their coach or club that they are afraid to stop forcing their DC to do this virtual stuff, le alone request a refund. Give your money to an unemployed family instead of paying for Fall Zoom soccer because you are a scared rule-follower.

Lots of clubs don't like posts like this, so expect a backlash. We told both of our coaches our DCs couldn't do any of this online virtual soccer right now, and they were totally fine with it and understood and appreciated the honesty. Both top players on A teams. We do our own thing when we can (twice a week) at a privately owned grass area. We told them we would be back in touch at summertime once we had the bandwidth to deal with more stuff.

NO PROBLEM OR BACKLASH AT ALL from the coach and club. Both my DC will play on a local top A team come 2021, promise you that. And if our current club has an a-hole who somehow comes in and forces our DC out to 3rd or 4th team (and every other A/B family that has refused to put down more money), then there are a lot of other options in town.

Without Fall soccer, clubs' survivals are at issue and they don't want any family to start a snowball effect by being the first to opt out. Well, we did at our club. With neither my wife or I working and all these health issues and home schooling . . . well, Zoom soccer become a total charade.

I agree with everything said in this post. My question is will these clubs try to use these zoom meetings and soccer apps as a means of fulfilling their coaching obligation? In other words are they going to say "no credit or refund" because we were interacting with the team during the pandemic.

Yes, they will.

Yes. Even our gymnastics is counting the bs zoom as a used class.

I hope this is not true. I'm pretty sure there are families who can use there spring payments to take care of bills. Wouldn't this be a lawsuit anyways? We paid for professional coaching (not an online app), games, field fees and tournaments. How can they justify not giving us a refund? Also, what about kids who are phasing out due to their age or kids who aren't even returning?

[Anonymous]

No Club is going to ask for full payments. Maybe a small registration fee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No Club is going to ask for full payments. Maybe a small registration fee

which, in some clubs, is non-refundable .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone can make decisions they feel best for their family but don’t expect the world to stop

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok so let's poll. Bsc sends girls invites today and boys next week. Pay in full for the entire year to secure your spot. Are you paying or not? If not, what's a good plan b. Just email them whenever play resumes (sept, dec, jan 2021.. whatever) and say "hey can we join now? "

Yep! my daughter is an 04 and I would pay to support the club and coaches. If by chance no soccer happens then I would ask for a refund by January 2021. Again I understand that this is not one sided but if I have it I give it and for me and my family we have been blessed to have it so we will 100% give it so they can support their families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 1.8 million people in the four Northern Virginia counties - Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax and Loudoun - closest to DC. The state is reporting a total of 152 deaths due to coronavirus in those areas. That's .008% of the population. Loundoun is 400,000 people and has 11 total deaths. That's .00275%.

Also, people under 45 make up like .1% of the deaths in the country. It's not a killer for young and mid-age people. We're trying to do a one-size-fits-all approach that doesn't acknowledge the nuance of the situation. Every study shows roughly 15% of people have it already. Be smart. Old people shelter. Social distance. Wash hands. Wear a mask. It will drastically reduce the spread. Yes, people still will die from it. But there's a host of diseases that people die from. You can't stop society to save everyone. The world doesn't work like that.

This is an indication that social distancing and shelter in place is working. NY, Italy and Spain demonstrate what happens in the absence of social distancing. The whole point is to keep hospital beds available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your DC is on a lower team, there is no need to pay a dime. When clubs that are left pick up the pieces and continue in 2021, there will be an opportunity to pay and rejoin. They will need ALL the money from as many as they can get. Don't get sucked into false promises of moving up to the top A or B team now for a fall season of Zoom soccer, and then just get displaced in 2021.

If you are on A or B at a big club, no need to pay either. They will pressure parents and tell them their DC's spot is "lost" and it will go to someone else, but once things begin in 2021 there will be big opportunities for players to rejoin and pay then. Every honest coach will tell you this. Do you know any coaches? Come on folks.

There are lots of coaches and club admins posting on here trying to keep things optimistic before a critical mass of parents start pulling out of the Zoom meetings and training leaderboards nonsense. They know that as parents find out there is no hope of Fall soccer, then the whole club crumbles over summer and big club cuts have to happen.

It is amazing how Disneyworld gives back refunds on paid-in annual passes, but so many parents are so scared of upsetting their coach or club that they are afraid to stop forcing their DC to do this virtual stuff, le alone request a refund. Give your money to an unemployed family instead of paying for Fall Zoom soccer because you are a scared rule-follower.

Lots of clubs don't like posts like this, so expect a backlash. We told both of our coaches our DCs couldn't do any of this online virtual soccer right now, and they were totally fine with it and understood and appreciated the honesty. Both top players on A teams. We do our own thing when we can (twice a week) at a privately owned grass area. We told them we would be back in touch at summertime once we had the bandwidth to deal with more stuff.

NO PROBLEM OR BACKLASH AT ALL from the coach and club. Both my DC will play on a local top A team come 2021, promise you that. And if our current club has an a-hole who somehow comes in and forces our DC out to 3rd or 4th team (and every other A/B family that has refused to put down more money), then there are a lot of other options in town.

Without Fall soccer, clubs' survivals are at issue and they don't want any family to start a snowball effect by being the first to opt out. Well, we did at our club. With neither my wife or I working and all these health issues and home schooling . . . well, Zoom soccer become a total charade.

I agree with everything said in this post. My question is will these clubs try to use these zoom meetings and soccer apps as a means of fulfilling their coaching obligation? In other words are they going to say "no credit or refund" because we were interacting with the team during the pandemic.

Yes, from good authority, that is the plan. Once families say enuff though, it will end and they will stop asking for more money until after soccer resumes in 9-12 months.

[Anonymous]

Heard from our DD ECNL coach. Not sure about tryouts. Will take all DA players though. Roster up to 30. Will rotate 18 girls for games. Thinks in fall there will only be local games and scrimmages. No overnight travel. IMO too bad Arlington, FCV and MU aren’t in ECNL. It’s going to be boring only playing 4 teams. Also in the winter they will bump down the weaker players. So beware accepting an offer for my DD team. I’m sure we can all speculate which club we are with. I’m not kidding. This was an actual conversation with an ECNL coach