Why deny UVA?

Anonymous
Actual news:

UVA is adding a binding ED option for applicants in fall 2019. They had one several years ago, but it was dropped because it was seen as disadvantaging students who need financial aid.

It is thought to be the only state flagship that will have an ED (as opposed to EA) option and some observers think it is being done to both manage yield and also to signal prestige and selectivity.

https://twitter.com/RuthServenSmith/status/1133818124179038208?s=20

Anonymous
Tech and William and Mary have ED, right?
Anonymous
Is UVA really a flagship?
Anonymous
Jeepers. how will this affect in state vs. out of state admissions with an ED option thrown back into the mix? What is the reasoning behind this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tech and William and Mary have ED, right?


Yes. Not considered flagships though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is UVA really a flagship?


Yes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jeepers. how will this affect in state vs. out of state admissions with an ED option thrown back into the mix? What is the reasoning behind this?


No clue re reasoning. But UVA could certainly maintain its current percentage of in state/out of state but deferring many OOS ED applicants to RD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jeepers. how will this affect in state vs. out of state admissions with an ED option thrown back into the mix? What is the reasoning behind this?


1) More tuition dollars since vast majority of ED students will be full-pay.
2) Better yield percentages.



Anonymous
If you find out before January 1, that saves all the fees of applying to other schools. If VT can do it, why not UVA?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tech and William and Mary have ED, right?


Yes. Not considered flagships though.


Flagship isn't exactly a technical term, except in the Navy. I think most would consider schools like IU and Purdue flagships, so it wouldn't sound too off base if someone called Virginia Tech a flagship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is UVA really a flagship?


Yes


No. They aren’t part of a system. There is no flagship in Virginia.
Anonymous
Flagships are typically land grant institutions.

In a flagship situation, you ha e a large Board of Regents/Trustees that oversees all schools and then each school’s has a chancellor. North Carolina has this. Virginia doesn’t.
Anonymous
UVA was over-enrolled this year and didn't even go to the waitlist for Arts & Sciences and Engineering. This is a good way to manage enrollment for such a popular and prestigious school. UVA is also one of only a small number of colleges who are both need blind in admissions and guarantees to meet 100 percent of a student's demonstrated financial need. So there is no reason why any student -- rich or poor -- who knows that UVA is their number one choice shouldn't apply ED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeepers. how will this affect in state vs. out of state admissions with an ED option thrown back into the mix? What is the reasoning behind this?


1) More tuition dollars since vast majority of ED students will be full-pay.
2) Better yield percentages.





I would speculate that UVA is finding one of the major reasons it is losing OOS admits is to better aid packages from other schools (primarily private schools). The advantage (from a school's perspective) is the student has to commit before they see aid package. So this will enable UVA to get more full pay students and increase targeted financial aid (increase grant) to others it is competing to get.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Flagships are typically land grant institutions.

In a flagship situation, you ha e a large Board of Regents/Trustees that oversees all schools and then each school’s has a chancellor. North Carolina has this. Virginia doesn’t.


In Texas Texas A&M is the land grant but UT would be considered to as much of a claim to "flagship" status. It isn't really a technical term (unlike "land grant") and I don't think the legislature has designated UVA as flagship, but UVA's Wikipedia page claims flagship. I think it is just generally used to refer to some combination of best known, first, and most extensive in research and graduate degrees.
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