Why deny UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

My white girl from NOVA. Is in with a 3.9 and 1270 SAT. Lots of extras (musicals, sports, Governors school), but not spectacular tests or grades.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand it either. It’s a fine, reputable (I didn’t say prestigious! Ugh!!) school with some great programs. It’s a great deal for in-state families and it’s located in a cute, quaint, town.

Do most people feel as strongly about other public universities in VA?

You must not know any Tech alumni.

LOL, I don't think PP above knows that Tech and UVA are rivals, as is UMD and UVA - hence a lot of student trolling on these pages against UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

My white girl from NOVA. Is in with a 3.9 and 1270 SAT. Lots of extras (musicals, sports, Governors school), but not spectacular tests or grades.

3.9 weighted or unweighted? UVA likes well-rounded students to the Governor's school and other ECs count. UVA likes Eagle Scouts for the same. What school in NOVA if I can ask?

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

A lot of people think you need to score at 75th percentile to have any shot if you have no hooks, and it is probably good to target. But a lot of those students at UVA and W&M at 75th are probably going to be either OOS, or in-state kids that didn't quite score high enough to get an attractive enough admit or enough aid to tempt them to go somewhere else.

If you mean Ivies, then yes, but only if the parents can pay $75K-$80K a year x 4 or 5 years. My DS tried for some of the Ivies but was deferred or didn't get at all (which was just as well because in retrospect we really couldn't have afforded it - we would have had to eat into retirement funds to make it work). The competition today is fierce for those schools. We were thrilled when he got into UVA. But even three years later I don't think he would get in because the stats keep jumping for UVA (andW&M) every year. Note that the SCHEV stats has the average SAT for last year entering at the 75th percentile at a 1480. For the ACT it is median 34. The 75th median GPA is 4.47. I find those stats to be astronomical. The incoming class this fall will have even higher stats. this fall. Remember that SCHEV uses the stats of actual enrolled students of last fall, not accepted student stats which are higher. http://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

My white girl from NOVA. Is in with a 3.9 and 1270 SAT. Lots of extras (musicals, sports, Governors school), but not spectacular tests or grades.

Well you were very very lucky. Or you are low-income. Or a Blue Ridge Scholar. https://giving.virginia.edu/scholarships/blue-ridge-scholars/. Or have an exceptionally well-rounded obvious leader as a child. Congratulations.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

I think they were focusing on SAT. There, I would say it is likely TJ students aren't likely to be 25th percentile. GPA maybe. Original post said high GPA, low SAT. Unlikely for TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

Fake news. TJ sends 60 to 70 kids to UVA each year.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

What a hilarious post! So TJ parents are frugal...a full 1/3 of the grads apply to Cornell with close to $70K/yr cost of attendance. Being an Ivy, Cornell offers no merit-based aid. I can't imagine any other school in the area that has such a huge percentage of grads applying to %70K/yr schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

Fake news. TJ sends 60 to 70 kids to UVA each year.

I believe it was 72 last year.

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Anonymous wrote:My rich white kid with no hooks but excellent grades got in with SATs below the 25th percentile. Another got in right at the 50th. You don’t need the 75th percentile from NOVA even if you’re an unhooked rich white kid regardless of what you’re hearing.

But was he at TJ? Lots of TJ students fill that 25th percentile because their GPAs are lower than they would have been had they stayed in their home schools.

No she wasn't at TJ. And how many TJ students do you think score below UVA's 25th percentile on the SAT? Get a clue, man.

She attended one of the NOVA neighborhood high schools typically ranked in the middle of the top 10.

Man, here. Quite a few. Because someone at TJ has to be in the bottom the of class and not go to Ivies, Stanford or MIT, they still have wonderful test scores but lower GPAs than they would have had had they stayed in their home schools. Also TJ families tend to value in-state UVA because they are frugal and most of their kids are going on to expensive grad programs. TJ sents between 125-160 students each year to UVA.

Fake news. TJ sends 60 to 70 kids to UVA each year.

I believe it was 72 last year.

62 in 2017.

[Anonymous]

A lot of readers of this thread are slow on the uptake. Yes, TJ has a bottom 25% of its class. But I was talking about the bottom 25% of the SAT at UVA, and I suspect that not many TJ students score that low on the SAT considering that the average of the school is over 1500. This is not that difficult to comprehend, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of readers of this thread are slow on the uptake. Yes, TJ has a bottom 25% of its class. But I was talking about the bottom 25% of the SAT at UVA, and I suspect that not many TJ students score that low on the SAT considering that the average of the school is over 1500. This is not that difficult to comprehend, folks.

DCUM posters have that unfortunate combination of being mean spirited and bad with data and reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of readers of this thread are slow on the uptake. Yes, TJ has a bottom 25% of its class. But I was talking about the bottom 25% of the SAT at UVA, and I suspect that not many TJ students score that low on the SAT considering that the average of the school is over 1500. This is not that difficult to comprehend, folks.

I agree. TJ isn't going to report class rank. Yes, a school can figure out from what the school reports approximately where the student falls, but the college where the student enrolls won't have to report any class rank for that student. So the average graduate will have high SAT/ACT scores, because they were admitted to TJ. With an average (taken by combining Math and Critical reading) of 1503 on the SAT, TJ grads will have an average score that is slightly beyond the 75th percentile of enrolled students of UVA and W&M. The average is 180 points or so above the 25th percentile scores. I'm not going to break out actual statistical analysis, but if you did the likelihood that a TJ grad would score at the 25th percentile on the SAT/ACT, I think it would be quite low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand it either. It’s a fine, reputable (I didn’t say prestigious! Ugh!!) school with some great programs. It’s a great deal for in-state families and it’s located in a cute, quaint, town.

If you don't say prestigious, why not? You should. It is not as prestigious as the Ivies, but top 25 in the nation is not shabby, and it's more than just "fine".