Why deny UVA?
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Anonymous
And they wouldn't be at Yale at all if they didn't play lax. |
Anonymous
That's all 2012 and Sullivan was forced out. UVA is now no. 3 for public universities in the US. |
Anonymous
| Pffft, anyone in NoVA would send their kid to UVA in a heartbeat. Bang for the buck is huge. |
Anonymous
No one who knows what they are talking about compares the acceptance rate of publics against those of privates. Publics have a very different mission than privates. Publics also usually don't play up to mess with the USN&WR factors like U of Chicago and others are doing. Publics usually don't care about yield (another factor in the rankings). Finally, the public high school counselor system is set up to feed the most appropriate public high school students to the most appropriate public university, so much self-selection is done at the high school application level that is not done for privates. |
Anonymous
| This is such a tired topic. |
Anonymous
Admissions rates are higher in state, which might be why the locals don't see it as big of a deal?
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Anonymous
I think the nasty comments come from this. It's very difficult now to get into UVA and there is a lot of bitterness amongst in-state students and families who don't even start the application process because they know the Naviance scores and the incoming SCHEVE GPAs of the last entering class (4.47 for top 75%; 4.14 for bottom 25% of class) and SAT and ACT scores (1480 average/33 ACT average) if you're not in the top ten percent of your class don't even try. This is reinforced by the high school counselors who show the parents the Naviance scores and schev stats and say "Let's go for JMU instead" (the counselors write a letter of recommendation). We knew better to even suggest that our public DD apply. She simply didn't have the stats. That, combined with the fact that the classes at UVA are much smaller than, say, at U of Michigan or UCLA or Berkeley. Also, in the California system, you have the enormous U Cal system, the Cal State system, and the xlnt community colleges that can feed into UCLA or Berkeley. In Virginia, only 3,822 or so lucky Virginians get in to UVA. UCLA and Berkeley are monsters plus there are all the other wonderful UC schools. California is playing it smart by listening to its constituents and now limits the OOS/international numbers to only 20%. UVA is at 33% OOS and international. It will be interesting to see if it stays at this number under the new President, expands the OOS number or follows California and restricts the number of OOS and internationals. So what you are seeing on this board are the complaints of unhappy students and families that didn't get in or knew they couldn't from the start. Also, Virginia Tech and UMD are rivals so there's often a lot of nastiness coming from college students who like to troll. Finally, with privates heading to $80K a year and more than half of students taking 5 years or longer to graduate, families are at the point where they wake up sophomore or junior year of high school and say "I had no idea" (there was a post here about 9 months ago from a Northwestern accepted family saying "Is this really going to cost us $276K?") the instate tuition of $32,500 for UVA looks mighty good. This is especially true as the shift continues amongst employers to want to see graduate degrees. More and more families are trying to go in-state public for undergrad and bank the difference for grad school. We're doing that for the one who did get into UVA. We are very fortunate to have such a wonderful system, both community college, and University level in Virginia. It's unfortunate that it is not as large as California's 3 tier system but it is better than most states by a long shot. |
Anonymous
| I don't know where UVA ranks as a university, but it sure seems like no college alums have as much insecurity about their school as UVA alums. You're #1! |
Anonymous
60% of acceptees choose other schools. 40% yield rate tells me that people are using UVA as their safety. I know my kid did. |
Anonymous
But they could be at UVA even if they didn't play lax. |
Anonymous
Most in-state Virginians trying for Ivies use UVA as a safety. Everyone knows that. We did as well. Of course it's a crapshoot getting into Ivies nowadays if you don't have a hook so we were thrilled to get into UVA. UVA doesn't practice yield protection like the privates do. It doesn't have the admissions office resources to play the USN&WR game. |
Anonymous
| ^^ Oh, and we couldn't have afforded the Ivies anyhow. No merit aid offered anywhere and no financial aid. Donut hole family. |
Anonymous
All universities play the USN&WR game... that is why they have Spring admits that don't count against their % acceptance rate and that is why they are not growing the school to meet the needs of VA HS students. UVA is small for a flagship university considering how big the state is... that keeps their acceptance rate down and their USN&WR score up. |
Anonymous
UVA has been ranked No. 1, 2 or 3 for best public university in the nation (competing with UCLA and Berkeley) for the last 27 years - and always ahead of Michigan. Princeton Review places it at no.1 some years. Always 1,2,3,4, etc. for best value. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-19-rankings-rate-uva-no-3-public-and-no-2-best-value-among-publics. |
Anonymous
Not if they were a white boy from NoVA. |