FCV DA thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love to see the High and Mighty poster drawing broad conclusions from one team and one fight between two dads. Par for the course in this cesspool.

A fight between 2 dads on the same team, much less opposing teams, is so trashy.

So is using that incident to attack an entire club of kids and parents.

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Again, PDA might be the best team in the country. The club itself is so massive and has so much talent that last year, the A team played ECNL and the B team played DA. This year, the field A & B teams in ECNL and in a few age groups, both teams are on track to qualify for national playoffs. The team that beat Loudon has not lost a game all season. FCV has crushed it in DA and this same team formed the basis of the team that won VA State Cup. Again, Germany crushed Brazil in Rio in 2014. Blowouts happen so no need to over analyzed. FCV lost to a solid team which has destroyed several highly regarded teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, PDA might be the best team in the country. The club itself is so massive and has so much talent that last year, the A team played ECNL and the B team played DA. This year, the field A & B teams in ECNL and in a few age groups, both teams are on track to qualify for national playoffs. The team that beat Loudon has not lost a game all season. FCV has crushed it in DA and this same team formed the basis of the team that won VA State Cup. Again, Germany crushed Brazil in Rio in 2014. Blowouts happen so no need to over analyzed. FCV lost to a solid team which has destroyed several highly regarded teams.

Correction: the A team last year played DA and the B team played ECNL. You can tell if you are confused by seeing who is on PDA ECNL blue this year and compare that to the DA roster last year, and see PDA ECNL white this year and last year's ECNL roster.

You are correct though on depth. The Jeff Cup of usually sees multiple PDA teams and even their C and sometimes D teams perform well.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, PDA might be the best team in the country. The club itself is so massive and has so much talent that last year, the A team played ECNL and the B team played DA. This year, the field A & B teams in ECNL and in a few age groups, both teams are on track to qualify for national playoffs. The team that beat Loudon has not lost a game all season. FCV has crushed it in DA and this same team formed the basis of the team that won VA State Cup. Again, Germany crushed Brazil in Rio in 2014. Blowouts happen so no need to over analyzed. FCV lost to a solid team which has destroyed several highly regarded teams.

So then PDA had two DA teams at U14 last year? One for the regular u14s and one for the u13 team that created this other DA team? Because the u13 age group is a pilot program for this year. Not saying your wrong. That’s just wild to hear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love to see the High and Mighty poster drawing broad conclusions from one team and one fight between two dads. Par for the course in this cesspool.

A fight between 2 dads on the same team, much less opposing teams, is so trashy.

So is using that incident to attack an entire club of kids and parents.

That “incident” was just a public view into what everyone knows is going on at FCV. It’s not being used to attack an entire club of kids and parents. It’s being used to show what we all know- that FCV is an environment where parents and kids are always ready to criticize, blame and attack each other. This time it was the dad of the keeper and the dad of the defender because, after losing both games in shut outs, clearly those two girls were to blame. Stop defending the culture the club has created.

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It’s children playing soccer. Big scorelines happen. 1 or 2 can turn into 6 or 7 on any given day. There is no doubt that 05 ECNL is really good team but had a bad day like many teams mentioned on this forum have from time to time. I think the issue here is FCV parents going after each other at a club that seems to breed this sort of behavior. The leadership has changed but it is the same FCV despite what their social media might try to tell you.

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PP here. I meant 05 FCV DA.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

you can't come on here with reasonable material like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

I totally agree that defending isn't about being creative. But since I don't prefer the Italian style of play and therefore love the idea of scoring more than my opponent I would say if they are getting countered that often they do lack creativity in possession and attack. Keeping in mind that these are 13 year old kids. One doesn't just start solving problems overnight, which is why a weekend such as that can be a great learning tool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

you can't come on here with reasonable material like that.

Prepare to be slayed by the Lord of the Board!!! FCV's GK clearly lacked creativity and problem solving to let 7 goals in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

I totally agree that defending isn't about being creative. But since I don't prefer the Italian style of play and therefore love the idea of scoring more than my opponent I would say if they are getting countered that often they do lack creativity in possession and attack. Keeping in mind that these are 13 year old kids. One doesn't just start solving problems overnight, which is why a weekend such as that can be a great learning tool.

I hear what you're saying, but then again if you don't want to play a defend-deep-and-counter style of play, it's probably a good idea to learn to defend against teams that do.

No matter how good you are, you're gonna lose the ball sometimes.

But I think the "0" in the scoreline probably reflects the lack of creativity in possession and attack more than the "7" does.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

you can't come on here with reasonable material like that.

Prepare to be slayed by the Lord of the Board!!! FCV's GK clearly lacked creativity and problem solving to let 7 goals in.

Actually, according to her dad, it was the fault of the defender. I think everyone who witnessed the “ugly incident” heard that loud and clear.

[Anonymous]

Have any of you seen FCV 05 play?

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.

I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?

The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.

In order to lose 7-0 at this level your lacking in creativity. Pure and simple. Parents should probably try and understand the game. Now a loss like that can be a great thing. In the right environment the kids will learn and respond positively. But with parents showing their colors on the sidelines one can guess what the kids hear regarding teammates at home. All of this is a shame for the kids. It’s a real chance for growth. Fingers crossed for the kids the coach handles it’s all the right way. Otherwise that game against TopHat could be a real problem.

Just curious: What's your soccer background? Losing 7-0 is because of a lack of creativity? I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. PDA's 05s have been rolling over everything in its path for YEARS. The only reason Loudoun's 05s won regionals is because PDA didn't participate.

Let me answer your question with a question. When you watched that game did you see kids solving problems? Because there were many to solve that went unanswered. Now I could be a coach. I could be a parent. I could be teammate’s parent. I could be a rival’s parent. None of that should matter to the development of the players on that team and creativity should be part of their development. There no reason a highly talented team should lose 7-0. I’m not saying they would have won but PDA pulled back. Your not doing something if that’s the case. And if a team can’t problem solve then they lack creativity. But by all means concern yourself with a commenters background.

When I see a 7-0 scoreline at U14 the first things that come to mind are either the team played a high line and kept getting hit on the counter, or the team was trying to play out of the back against pressure and kept making mistakes. If the team on the losing end is a team that usually wins a lot, another thing that would come to mind is that they may have given up a few early goals and then lost composure.

Does that mean they lack creativity? Maybe. Defending is more about organization than creativity though.

As an example if they're getting hit by through balls on the counter attack, because the back line is caught too high upfield when the ball is turned over, the forwards and midfielders aren't getting organized quickly enough to get pressure on the ball, and the backline isn't recognizing the danger and dropping off soon enough - I wouldn't say their problem is lack of creativity.
It's not like there are many different ways to solve that particular problem. If the team doesn't know how to deal with that situation, it's the coach's job to teach them. Pure and simple.

Agree with you though that games like that can present great learning opportunities. They don't always reflect the true gap between the teams in terms of ability. Sometimes it's just a matter of one team fixing one or two problems and the next time it becomes a totally different game.

I totally agree that defending isn't about being creative. But since I don't prefer the Italian style of play and therefore love the idea of scoring more than my opponent I would say if they are getting countered that often they do lack creativity in possession and attack. Keeping in mind that these are 13 year old kids. One doesn't just start solving problems overnight, which is why a weekend such as that can be a great learning tool.

It is probably harder to score if you are not in the other teams side of the field. Just a thought.