Villanova vs. UVA

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Anonymous wrote:Davidson can’t be that good or they would know about the moon landing.


He didn't graduate.


Duke has a flat-earther.


I think the "one and done"' basketball players and the general student populations are two different things.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


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Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.

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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..




Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


You are correct, but UVA has still performed well. You can see that schools like Sewanee are off the charts for some reason when you adjust for size. I see a good list of names above, but there are also lots of anomalies. Montana has produced more Rhodes Scholars than Berkeley, for instance (and as many as UVA on a per capita basis).
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Anonymous wrote:Davidson is in UVA's league. Villanova is not. It's a complete joke to suggest otherwise. Villanova is a fine school, but it's not a prestige school. UVA is, and has been for a long time.


Also, THIS.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Davidson can’t be that good or they would know about the moon landing.


C'mon. That was just one guy - Steph Curry. A basketball player who didn't even get his degree.
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What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?

Oh my gosh, it was a joke. Lighten up, Frances.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.


Reed is an interesting school. Incoming stats aren't stellar, but there is a common determination to become a scholar. One of the highest producers (per capita) of PHDs and Rhodes Scholars.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..


Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.


Reed is an interesting school. Incoming stats aren't stellar, but there is a common determination to become a scholar. One of the highest producers (per capita) of PHDs and Rhodes Scholars.


look, it's too complicated to explain and fully document here, but the bottom line is that the Rhodes isn't a national competition where everyone is judged in one big pot, but rather based on who rises to the top in regions. And the regions has changed over the years.

For example, Montana has had a disproportionately large number of winners when going back to the beginning of the competition in the early 1900s because there aren't a lot of colleges in Montana and students applying from the region where Montana was located historically were at a distinct advantage. It's not like that anymore -- they've adjusted the regions to more or less even the score -- and since doing that schools in formerly advantaged locations have petered out. Google where Rhodes have come from since 2000, 2010, or whatever and you won't see a lot of Montanas and Reeds on the list anymore. But you WILL continue to see UVA make frequent appearances.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..




Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.


Reed is an interesting school. Incoming stats aren't stellar, but there is a common determination to become a scholar. One of the highest producers (per capita) of PHDs and Rhodes Scholars.


look, it's too complicated to explain and fully document here, but the bottom line is that the Rhodes isn't a national competition where everyone is judged in one big pot, but rather based on who rises to the top in regions. And the regions has changed over the years.

For example, Montana has had a disproportionately large number of winners when going back to the beginning of the competition in the early 1900s because there aren't a lot of colleges in Montana and students applying from the region where Montana was located historically were at a distinct advantage. It's not like that anymore -- they've adjusted the regions to more or less even the score -- and since doing that schools in formerly advantaged locations have petered out. Google where Rhodes have come from since 2000, 2010, or whatever and you won't see a lot of Montanas and Reeds on the list anymore. But you WILL continue to see UVA make frequent appearances.


A typical UVA supporter response. Put down the other schools and argue if they had any success it was due to special circumstances. But the fact is Montana had one in 2017 and Reed had one in 2016.
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..




Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.


Reed is an interesting school. Incoming stats aren't stellar, but there is a common determination to become a scholar. One of the highest producers (per capita) of PHDs and Rhodes Scholars.


look, it's too complicated to explain and fully document here, but the bottom line is that the Rhodes isn't a national competition where everyone is judged in one big pot, but rather based on who rises to the top in regions. And the regions has changed over the years.

For example, Montana has had a disproportionately large number of winners when going back to the beginning of the competition in the early 1900s because there aren't a lot of colleges in Montana and students applying from the region where Montana was located historically were at a distinct advantage. It's not like that anymore -- they've adjusted the regions to more or less even the score -- and since doing that schools in formerly advantaged locations have petered out. Google where Rhodes have come from since 2000, 2010, or whatever and you won't see a lot of Montanas and Reeds on the list anymore. But you WILL continue to see UVA make frequent appearances.


A typical UVA supporter response. Put down the other schools and argue if they had any success it was due to special circumstances. But the fact is Montana had one in 2017 and Reed had one in 2016.


Correct, but don't forget that they also talked down to us saying "it is too complicated to explain here".
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Anonymous wrote:Villanova is more prestigious, unless your kid has a STRONG in at a top tier UVA frat/srat house.


Villanova has had 3 Rhodes Scholars in its entire history. UVA has had 53.


THIS.


Davidson is in the same region as UVA and has over 4X as many Rhodes Scholars on a per capita basis. Is it 4X as good as UVA?


The University of Mississippi has the same number as Georgetown, and both have more than Berkeley. Sewanee has more than any of those. Clearly Rhodes scholarships are meaningful, but you shouldn't use it as the only indicator of institutional quality.


yes, and that's the thing. UVA surpasses Villanova on pretty much every objective measure of institutional quality, Rhodes Scholars included..




Here's a link to colleges ranked by Rhodes recipients The top ten:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
West Point
Dartmouth
Brown
UVA
Chicago
Navy

That's pretty damned good company and means something.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html


Meh....it’s only meaningful if you adjust for student population.


Not true. What is means is that many, many of the graduates of the top universities in the US, who have lots and lots of options, are applying for and accepting these scholarships. That UVA is in the same category says something about the opportunities available to UVA grads and the prestige of the school. Give credit where credit is due.



What’s the word for incontestable truth? Ah, yes...Wahoowa!


That is a word used by students and graduates of a school where no one can (or does) solve for X. Reed College has produced 32 Rhodes Scholars while the University of Virginia has produced 53. UVA has 16,500 undergraduates while Reed has 1,500. Which of these two schools has produced graduates who were more likely to receive Rhodes Scholarships?


Lol.....apparently basic statistics aren’t part of the curriculum at UVA. BTW that’s an amazing stat for Reed.


Reed is an interesting school. Incoming stats aren't stellar, but there is a common determination to become a scholar. One of the highest producers (per capita) of PHDs and Rhodes Scholars.


look, it's too complicated to explain and fully document here, but the bottom line is that the Rhodes isn't a national competition where everyone is judged in one big pot, but rather based on who rises to the top in regions. And the regions has changed over the years.

For example, Montana has had a disproportionately large number of winners when going back to the beginning of the competition in the early 1900s because there aren't a lot of colleges in Montana and students applying from the region where Montana was located historically were at a distinct advantage. It's not like that anymore -- they've adjusted the regions to more or less even the score -- and since doing that schools in formerly advantaged locations have petered out. Google where Rhodes have come from since 2000, 2010, or whatever and you won't see a lot of Montanas and Reeds on the list anymore. But you WILL continue to see UVA make frequent appearances.


A typical UVA supporter response. Put down the other schools and argue if they had any success it was due to special circumstances. But the fact is Montana had one in 2017 and Reed had one in 2016.


Correct, but don't forget that they also talked down to us saying "it is too complicated to explain here".


So let's see . . . I said if you looked at recent classas you wouldn't "see a lot of Montanas and Reeds on the list anymore." You found one for Montana in 2017, in a year where UVA had two, and one from Reed the year before. UVA has had six since 2013. How many have Reed and Montana had in that time period?

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