About to blow my top with my D's university.....

[Anonymous]

see no reason why the school would not allow her to take the course locally or if the professor is a decent enough person hopefully will work with her to allow her to pass by maybe submitting an extra paper or some other kind of work to his satisfaction.

[Anonymous]

Comments are insane, you nasty, anonymous people! Life goes on with a “D”, as it has for OP’s DD. Complete the online course (or equivalent) as a pass/fail and get diploma. That D will never matter, ever! Much success to your DD.

[Anonymous]

I’m surprised some posters’ first recommendation is grade grubbing. Did you consider that she might have earned an F and the professor lifted it to a D? We are in a time of grade inflation at many universities.

It’s great that she is reaching out to the professor, but I hope she frames this as “what can I do” instead of “what can YOU (professor) do.”

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Anonymous wrote:Something similar happened to me over 20 years ago I was not on top of the requirements. I thought testing out of a class gave me credit but I still had to replace that class with another 3 credits ( I had confused testing out of a requirement with credit by exam)

. I didn't know that. A year later I went to call for my transcript and boom. I hadn't graduated. I was able to take a class at a local University so that helped.

But it was clearly my fault for not being on top of things and my parents never knew. In fact, funny story, my dad was here a few months ago and it was the first time he had ever heard that

Step back Mom this is not your battle to fight or to be worried about

But that really doesn’t happen anymore with student portals. At least at the two schools my DCs went to you can see your credits, progress against requirements (major, distribution) very easily. Heck, even MCPS has this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, your daughter is stretching the truth with you. Clearly, though you don't want to see it.

1) There is no school, much less a top-25 school (including huge ones like Berkeley) that don't inform graduates that "walking" is not the same thing as "graduating," and that they will receive their diplomas after all of their grades are in and it is determined that they meet the criteria.

2) Your daughter is idiot enough to get a "D" in a class, but you think it's the university's fault she hasn't checked her transcript? Uh-huh. There is no way in hell she didn't know about the "D." In fact, I'd assume she thought it might be an "F," and was so relieved that it wasn't, she never bothered to check her transcript.

3) She had a departmental advisor at some point. She knew the rules, and was filling out a graduation checklist from the day she declared the major. It defies belief that she didn't know that you have to make a "C" in all classes required for your major.

4) Didn't the internship require a transcript?

5) Do you really, truly believe your daughter is the rare person who never checks her grades, or goes to find out about her diploma, or has any idea what the graduation requirements are? You, my friend, are being bamboozled by a young woman who knows your every button, and is playing you like a virtuoso on the accordion.

Maybe there's no manipulation and the daughter just really is that dense. Maybe the mom lined up the internship for her too - it sounds like a possibility.

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In that case, mom, your helicopter has just crashed and burned the precious child you've been protecting for so long. Y'all are both out another semester's worth of time and money if you want T25 U on her diploma.[/quote]

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Anonymous wrote:How is this anyone’s fault but your daughters? She must have majorly bombed that class to get a D.

How did she bomb if she passed the course?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mommy to the rescue because the daughter who just blew $2500 on a failed course needs another $2500 to fix it...oh, and mommy has to tell her how.

Is the daughter too helpless to reach out and call the professor? Chances are your lazy brat never showed up to class, so the prof won't be inclined to help -- but that would be step 1.

"It looks like Larla would have passed my course with my 10% attendance bonus...but she showed up only 3 times, so no bonus for her." -professor, probably

She did pass.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this anyone’s fault but your daughters? She must have majorly bombed that class to get a D.

How did she bomb if she passed the course?

? To me a "D" is majorly bombing - you may disagree. But in this context it was bad enough to deny her a diploma - so it had a real bad outcome, didn't i?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ds get degrees. Even that grade should have been enough to get the diploma. They can waive any requirements they feel like.

This is exactly right.

Um no. For degrees that correspond to licensing requirements (teaching, nursing) reqs may be set by natl bodies. aBA sets reqs for law school etc. universities have very strict requirements for accreditation and we can get audited by licensing and accreditation bodies. We most certainly can't just do what we want. What a stupid comment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Comments are insane, you nasty, anonymous people! Life goes on with a “D”, as it has for OP’s DD. Complete the online course (or equivalent) as a pass/fail and get diploma. That D will never matter, ever! Much success to your DD.

Sure. Life goes on, without a college degree, and with having lied on numerous job applications, including to her current employer. And apparently the "online course" isn't an available option.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comments are insane, you nasty, anonymous people! Life goes on with a “D”, as it has for OP’s DD. Complete the online course (or equivalent) as a pass/fail and get diploma. That D will never matter, ever! Much success to your DD.

Sure. Life goes on, without a college degree, and with having lied on numerous job applications, including to her current employer. And apparently the "online course" isn't an available option.

Drama queen.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ds get degrees. Even that grade should have been enough to get the diploma. They can waive any requirements they feel like.

This is exactly right.

Um no. For degrees that correspond to licensing requirements (teaching, nursing) reqs may be set by natl bodies. aBA sets reqs for law school etc. universities have very strict requirements for accreditation and we can get audited by licensing and accreditation bodies. We most certainly can't just do what we want. What a stupid comment!

BS. Most degrees don't have licensing requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this anyone’s fault but your daughters? She must have majorly bombed that class to get a D.

How did she bomb if she passed the course?

? To me a "D" is majorly bombing - you may disagree. But in this context it was bad enough to deny her a diploma - so it had a real bad outcome, didn't i?

Holy crap, yes. I was distraught when I got a C; a D would have been horrific. Also, it's pretty widely known (at least I thought it was) that while a D is "passing" and may result in getting overall credits, it is insufficient for getting "credit" towards a major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ds get degrees. Even that grade should have been enough to get the diploma. They can waive any requirements they feel like.

This is exactly right.

Um no. For degrees that correspond to licensing requirements (teaching, nursing) reqs may be set by natl bodies. aBA sets reqs for law school etc. universities have very strict requirements for accreditation and we can get audited by licensing and accreditation bodies. We most certainly can't just do what we want. What a stupid comment!

BS. Most degrees don't have licensing requirements.

You're beating a dead horse. We don't know what school this is so we can't look up their requirement, but at most schools (especially good ones like T25) a "D" in your major field of study will not earn credit for that class.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP here so thank you for your input. Some of the responses were a little harsh but I can see why you would say I stepped in too deeply and accept that. It was more of a knee jerk reaction and being shocked.

To clarify a few things- my D while not a perfect student is a very solid student, almost all B's all through college taking. very rigorous courseload (economics major) She has reached out to the professor and that will be her first point of. contact to see what if anything can be done. He was known as a very tough grader and apparently this is widely known among students and faculty.

My D is not trying to push this on the school, she has accepted full responsibly for slacking off after graduation to not check her grades, insure proper standing, etc....within a week of graduating she was off to another country to do an internship she had been wanting, she got so. involved doing that, she said it really never crossed her mind. In the meantime she was also applying for jobs and looking to relocate to a new city, she got a great job and moved. She has been working ever since. In starting to decorate her small new apt she asked for her "framed diploma" and this is where this craziness started.

I am not letting her off the hook and have told her how deeply disappointed I am. She knows that and she has accepted her part in this. That said, the school still should have communicated to her right away that this would affect her ability to get her diploma. Even the advisor admitted they failed in this instance. So toady she is supposed to speak to the professor, we will see where that takes her.

No I am not getting on the phone and speaking to anyone. I am going to let her handle it. I am hopeful it will work out and as many of you have stated serve as a valuable life lesson. I guess in sharing this story, its a wake up call to anyone else who might just assume they graduated.

Man, are you gullible, OP. You really believe that 3 month passed without her checking her grades? Got it.

Also, I'm sure that professor, getting ready to teach a new term's worth of classes, is going to be thrilled to go out of his way to help a student who cares so little about his course that (i) she bombed it) and (ii) couldn't be bothered to check on her grades all summer.