Women are freezing their eggs because they cannot find similarly successful men

[Anonymous]

I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love.

I'd be fine with dating or marrying a man who made less than me, as long as he was willing to take over more of the childcare and other domestic responsibilities. I never found that guy. Someone who earns less than me and still expects me to make all the lunches, dinners, pick up the house, fill out the camp forms for the kids, arrange the play dates, make sure there are presents for birthday parties etc. is NOT going to work for me. Several years, after my first husband died, I remarried a guy who made around the same amount as me and we split domestic stuff 50-50. It has worked out great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and freeze those eggs waiting to meet a 6'5" former Navy SEAL turned Astrounaut who started his own hedge fund and shoots month-long yacht vacations in the Mediterranean out of his eleven inch penis. He's out there somewhere, ladies! And he's looking for YOU, with your 22% BMI, cankles, and B-cups - because YOU have an Ivy degree!


Actually, you're going to die alone, surrounded by your 15 cats.... who will eat your eyeballs.

Uh, 22% BMI is squarely in the middle of the healthy weight zone. Troll harder.

[Anonymous]

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I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later.

I'm 40 now with a 7 year old and a 5 year old. No way would I want to be 50 taking care of an infant, regardless of whether it was physically possible to have a baby at that age.

No shit! At 50, I'll have 2 in college. My best friend had an oops 45 and she will he the first to admit it has been incredibly exhausting and wouldnt reccomend it. Plus she had finally got her kids to an oldrr agr andnhad refocused her career and now is fried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is very exciting. As a young woman in her late 20s, I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later. Wonderful. I'm gonna look into this

My mother is 64 and her cognition has declined. She cant adapt well to new situations and in the ladt few years handles stress poorly. I cannot even IMAGINE dealing with a mouthy teen as a senior citizen.

We live in an affluent community and there are no shortage of smart calculating cute women hitched to high earners pumping out adorable gerber babies.

[Anonymous]

My grandmother had both of her sons in her later 20s, then had my other uncle as a surprise in her 40s. He is definitely the most well adjusted, most successful of all of them. I think she was a much better mother at that age.

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

You get to be an alpha because of your strong interpersonal skills, so I don't believe this for a minute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just need to start rasing our kids like the Asians and Africans do.

No more finding yourself college years?

You have a career picked out before you apply to undergrad.
During undergrad you find husband/wife

You graduate undergrad.

You get married.

Graduate school/ Fun travels.

Finish Grad school and have babies.

All done by 30.

Granted it would take parents focusing more on attending college for a career and not just an experience.

It would take prioritizing marriage and children and not just dating, and sex , and partying.

No thanks. The finding myself, partying, traveling 20s were the best decade ever.

I partied and travelled with my DH in my 20s and we both grew up together.

So do you have any separate friendships? Any important memories from your 20s that don't include your DH?

Not the PP, but I have plenty of separate friendships and important memories without my DH. I traveled a lot with my girlfriends, made friends with coworkers, etc.

How old were you when you started dating your DH, and how old were you when you married him?

[Anonymous]

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I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later.

I'm 40 now with a 7 year old and a 5 year old. No way would I want to be 50 taking care of an infant, regardless of whether it was physically possible to have a baby at that age.

No shit! At 50, I'll have 2 in college. My best friend had an oops 45 and she will he the first to admit it has been incredibly exhausting and wouldnt reccomend it. Plus she had finally got her kids to an oldrr agr andnhad refocused her career and now is fried.

At 45, why in heaven's name had she not gotten Essure or a tubal ligation? I wouldn't mess with less permanent b/c methods at that age if my family was truly complete.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is very exciting. As a young woman in her late 20s, I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later. Wonderful. I'm gonna look into this

My mother is 64 and her cognition has declined. She cant adapt well to new situations and in the ladt few years handles stress poorly. I cannot even IMAGINE dealing with a mouthy teen as a senior citizen.

We live in an affluent community and there are no shortage of smart calculating cute women hitched to high earners pumping out adorable gerber babies.

At only 64? Does she drink or smoke, or does she not exercise? That's very young to have cognitive issues unless you fail to take care of yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is very exciting. As a young woman in her late 20s, I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later. Wonderful. I'm gonna look into this

+1

Love it.

[Anonymous]

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Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

You are still missing the point. They are being married for their beauty, not their stupid careers. Or are you going to tell me these women are fat and ugly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Uh huh. Tell me about those studies. But in any event, even accepting this dubious idea as true, the alpha does not care if their partner cheats, because they can easily get a new partner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Uh huh. Tell me about those studies. But in any event, even accepting this dubious idea as true, the alpha does not care if their partner cheats, because they can easily get a new partner.

Alpha here. We absolutely care if they cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

You are still missing the point. They are being married for their beauty, not their stupid careers. Or are you going to tell me these women are fat and ugly?

Nope, you are. Beauty is helpful but it is not enough. A beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a beautiful upper class girl. Actually, a beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a somewhat cute upper class girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

You are still missing the point. They are being married for their beauty, not their stupid careers. Or are you going to tell me these women are fat and ugly?

But there are plenty of beautiful girls, with and without careers, so why is that the ONLY discriminator?