Women are freezing their eggs because they cannot find similarly successful men

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.[/quote

It's correlation but not causation.
Kids of single moms in stable homes are fine.

Yup. I would edit that to read Kids in financially stable homes are fine." Over 40% of single mom households are ALSO below the poverty line. That might account for PP's assertion that kids in homes with a single mom "do not do well." But if you have the financial means, then go for it.

No, even that is not true. Kids are better off in an intact family with less money than they are with a single mom with more money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

Are you the breadwinner? Does your spouse have a job that doesn't pay well but requires higher education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and freeze those eggs waiting to meet a 6'5" former Navy SEAL turned Astrounaut who started his own hedge fund and shoots month-long yacht vacations in the Mediterranean out of his eleven inch penis. He's out there somewhere, ladies! And he's looking for YOU, with your 22% BMI, cankles, and B-cups - because YOU have an Ivy degree!


Actually, you're going to die alone, surrounded by your 15 cats.... who will eat your eyeballs.

Bwahahaha, +1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love this wonderful story. I'm in my 20s- I think I'll have it done and put off having a child till my 40s. It's wonderful to know we can focus on our careers and not worry about the clock!

Getting pregnant is only the start of a long relentless journey of parenting; don't forget that cute little baby turns into a person who will rely on you for at least 18 years, and then you never stop being a parent even when the days of active parenting are over.

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

Not in my world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

You are completely wrong. My boyfriends were all attracted to my intelligence and drive, not just my youth and beauty. Good thing, since looks fade but a mortgage lasts thirty years

Sigh. You are completely wrong.

Your boyfriends were attracted to you in spite of your intelligence, drive, and career, not because of them.

If you were ugly and fat, those same men would have ignored your "intelligence and drive".

LOL so funny that you think you can apply some sort of universal rule of attraction to me and my intimate relationships.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just need to start rasing our kids like the Asians and Africans do.

No more finding yourself college years?

You have a career picked out before you apply to undergrad.
During undergrad you find husband/wife

You graduate undergrad.

You get married.

Graduate school/ Fun travels.

Finish Grad school and have babies.

All done by 30.

Granted it would take parents focusing more on attending college for a career and not just an experience.

It would take prioritizing marriage and children and not just dating, and sex , and partying.

No thanks. The finding myself, partying, traveling 20s were the best decade ever.

I partied and travelled with my DH in my 20s and we both grew up together.

So do you have any separate friendships? Any important memories from your 20s that don't include your DH?

Not the PP, but I have plenty of separate friendships and important memories without my DH. I traveled a lot with my girlfriends, made friends with coworkers, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Correct its not a coincidence that almost all of the people at the top of the corporate ladder are divorced or in sham marriages.

To the alpha women out there just me you do not want to marry an alpha male it won't work. I think that Sandburg b$%^ is a moron but the one thing she got right is if one partner wants to prioritize a career the other one has to be the house whatever. So alpha ladies yes that means marrying a beta nice guy and also knowing going in that you will be the primary breadwinner and really being ok with that because deep down no matter what you say you can't fight nature and that all women want some guy to "take care" of them in some fashion. Maybe your house husband can cook and clean really well or something to fulfill that You can't have it all bwhahahaha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

You're making the same mistake as that dude from whatever college that went on a shooting rampage because the girls didn't notice him and he felt like they should. The actual truth was that he was at the bottom of the dating market but felt entitled to the girls at the very top of it. Had he set his sights on the less popular, less moneyed, and less beautiful, he would have had plenty of action.

For you, remember that there are myriads of women out there to whom an educated man with a steady job and benefits who probably wouldn't beat them represents a huge social leap forward. These women won't look down at your son if he decides to be a teacher. They would be all over him. A teacher who thinks he is entitled to a beauty queen with multiple degrees and a trust fund? Probably won't happen, unless he has a similar setup. But if you want your son to have plenty of female action, teach him to target women to whom he would be a huge catch and a strike of luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

You are completely wrong. My boyfriends were all attracted to my intelligence and drive, not just my youth and beauty. Good thing, since looks fade but a mortgage lasts thirty years

Sigh. You are completely wrong.

Your boyfriends were attracted to you in spite of your intelligence, drive, and career, not because of them.

If you were ugly and fat, those same men would have ignored your "intelligence and drive".

They would have, but between a beautiful young girl with intelligence, drive and career and a beautiful young girl without, the choice is very clearly in favor of the first. Look. Few men are capable of supporting a family on a single income. They realize that. They don't even especially want the pressures of a single breadwinner. What man would give up a second income once he understands how much nicer his lifestyle could be with two incomes vs. one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

This. It's all about the family. Not to sound like a snot (because I'm certainly not wealthy), but those with real money (read: family) want nothing to do with corporate strivers or young beautiful Peggy-sues. If DD didn't meet her DH at Riverdale, they were probably introduced through mom and dad at Scarsdale. Sorry ladies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Correct its not a coincidence that almost all of the people at the top of the corporate ladder are divorced or in sham marriages.

To the alpha women out there just me you do not want to marry an alpha male it won't work. I think that Sandburg b$%^ is a moron but the one thing she got right is if one partner wants to prioritize a career the other one has to be the house whatever. So alpha ladies yes that means marrying a beta nice guy and also knowing going in that you will be the primary breadwinner and really being ok with that because deep down no matter what you say you can't fight nature and that all women want some guy to "take care" of them in some fashion. Maybe your house husband can cook and clean really well or something to fulfill that You can't have it all bwhahahaha.

What a crock. Crawl back under your hole.

[Anonymous]

PP, take it one step down. Those from affluent families (not inherited wealth, but say two generations of surgeons) prefer to couple with the similarly educated. Even the educated but un-moneyed (say NYT columnists or other journos) prefer similar women. Education is the common denominator that cuts across.