Women are freezing their eggs because they cannot find similarly successful men

[Anonymous]

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Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would freeze them!!
As someone who went through IVF (unexplained fertility) to have all my kids I'm going to recommend that my daughters freeze their eggs in their early 20s.

Um, the smart move, if you want grandkids, is to recommend that you daughters get married in their early 20s and have babies in their late 20s.

That kinda plays havoc with a traditional top tier career though.

(shrug) My mom did it back in the day when it was much, much harder for women to have a high-powered career.

It's really a matter of prioritizing it.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

But he may be not very ambitious, and I wouldn't want an unambitious man to father my children.

Is "ambition" passed on genetically?

I doubt it. Certainly I know plenty of high-achieving parents with worthless lazy do-nothing children.

But if it is, you'll have to provide the ambition gene.

But really you are simply making excuses for not wanting to endure the social stigma of seeming to "marry down".

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This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

But he may be not very ambitious, and I wouldn't want an unambitious man to father my children.

For every you, there's a dozen of non-yous.

sure, lots of less career oriented, less physically attractive women are happy with a guy who's kind and thoughtful.

Lowercase pp, are you a 10? Let's see it, and your alpha rainmaker husband.

I am a 7 or 8 and my husband is not an alpha rainmaker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just need to start rasing our kids like the Asians and Africans do.

No more finding yourself college years?

You have a career picked out before you apply to undergrad.
During undergrad you find husband/wife

You graduate undergrad.

You get married.

Graduate school/ Fun travels.

Finish Grad school and have babies.

All done by 30.

Granted it would take parents focusing more on attending college for a career and not just an experience.

It would take prioritizing marriage and children and not just dating, and sex , and partying.

No thanks. The finding myself, partying, traveling 20s were the best decade ever.

You will have that to console you after you hit your 40s, also known as "the cat lady decades".

Huh? I met my husband when I was 27, got married at 30 and had two children before I was 35.

[Anonymous]

Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

You are completely wrong. My boyfriends were all attracted to my intelligence and drive, not just my youth and beauty. Good thing, since looks fade but a mortgage lasts thirty years

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would freeze them!!
As someone who went through IVF (unexplained fertility) to have all my kids I'm going to recommend that my daughters freeze their eggs in their early 20s.

Um, the smart move, if you want grandkids, is to recommend that you daughters get married in their early 20s and have babies in their late 20s.

That kinda plays havoc with a traditional top tier career though.

(shrug) My mom did it back in the day when it was much, much harder for women to have a high-powered career.

It's really a matter of prioritizing it.

Some of us are not mature enough to cram all that into our 20s. Shrug. There are many ways to skin a cat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

But he may be not very ambitious, and I wouldn't want an unambitious man to father my children.

Is "ambition" passed on genetically?

I doubt it. Certainly I know plenty of high-achieving parents with worthless lazy do-nothing children.

But if it is, you'll have to provide the ambition gene.

But really you are simply making excuses for not wanting to endure the social stigma of seeming to "marry down".

It's nothing personal to me. I married a man who is similarly educated and employed in a career equivalent to mine, I was not making excuses for anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just need to start rasing our kids like the Asians and Africans do.

No more finding yourself college years?

You have a career picked out before you apply to undergrad.
During undergrad you find husband/wife

You graduate undergrad.

You get married.

Graduate school/ Fun travels.

Finish Grad school and have babies.

All done by 30.

Granted it would take parents focusing more on attending college for a career and not just an experience.

It would take prioritizing marriage and children and not just dating, and sex , and partying.

No thanks. The finding myself, partying, traveling 20s were the best decade ever.

I partied and travelled with my DH in my 20s and we both grew up together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Similarly successful men are already married and have children.

the egg freezers are the ones who were passed over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is very exciting. As a young woman in her late 20s, I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later. Wonderful. I'm gonna look into this

Not quite the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves? Why are men unable to compete similarly on a professional level to women?

Because there are only so many high paying jobs. Not that it's a bad thing, but men have to compete with twice the number of people they used to for high status jobs. Seems obvious to me why these women may have a hard time finding equally successful men.

This premise is wrong because more people in the workforce means more productivity, more development, and more jobs.

Keep believing that, but all you need to do is look at the workforce participation rate to know that it's a real issue. Only so many general counsel, CIO or CFO jobs to go around. How about this, if you want to date a true financial and career 'equal' then you cannot date any male counterpart that you ever beat out in an interview. Limits the dating pool a bit doesn't it?

Only because men are lagging behind. Look at college attendance rates. This isn't about a 50/50 split- this is about women outperforming men at such a level that it's shocking.

Not really. Men still make the rules, form the companies, and give women the jobs.