Women are freezing their eggs because they cannot find similarly successful men

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

I met a guy who became a nurse. All I can think is before he married, that guy was swimming in pussy. His brother says pretty much that was true.

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Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

I met a guy who became a nurse. All I can think is before he married, that guy was swimming in pussy. His brother says pretty much that was true.

The downside is most of that pussy is scheming to marry a doctor, not him.

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

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Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

You are completely wrong. My boyfriends were all attracted to my intelligence and drive, not just my youth and beauty. Good thing, since looks fade but a mortgage lasts thirty years

Sigh. You are completely wrong.

Your boyfriends were attracted to you in spite of your intelligence, drive, and career, not because of them.

If you were ugly and fat, those same men would have ignored your "intelligence and drive".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.[/quote

It's correlation but not causation.
Kids of single moms in stable homes are fine.

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Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

I met a guy who became a nurse. All I can think is before he married, that guy was swimming in pussy. His brother says pretty much that was true.

The downside is most of that pussy is scheming to marry a doctor, not him.

Yeah, I'm not sure he viewed that as downside.

[Anonymous]

Go ahead and freeze those eggs waiting to meet a 6'5" former Navy SEAL turned Astrounaut who started his own hedge fund and shoots month-long yacht vacations in the Mediterranean out of his eleven inch penis. He's out there somewhere, ladies! And he's looking for YOU, with your 22% BMI, cankles, and B-cups - because YOU have an Ivy degree!


Actually, you're going to die alone, surrounded by your 15 cats.... who will eat your eyeballs.

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Love this wonderful story. I'm in my 20s- I think I'll have it done and put off having a child till my 40s. It's wonderful to know we can focus on our careers and not worry about the clock!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and freeze those eggs waiting to meet a 6'5" former Navy SEAL turned Astrounaut who started his own hedge fund and shoots month-long yacht vacations in the Mediterranean out of his eleven inch penis. He's out there somewhere, ladies! And he's looking for YOU, with your 22% BMI, cankles, and B-cups - because YOU have an Ivy degree!


Actually, you're going to die alone, surrounded by your 15 cats.... who will eat your eyeballs.

And you think some gorgeous 18 year old is going to find your video habit charming, the lines and wrinkles around your eyes captivating, your fat gut sexy, your average looks enthralling.

Keep dreaming, baby!

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Are these threads just a few people engaging in arguments?

In the real world the vast majority of men and women I know found suitable partners and conceived children in normal time frames.

If you can't find a high achieving man or a hot enough woman, the problem is you, and that you have an over inflated sense of what you can attract in the dating market

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.

Why would you want your children to have a father who is less successful?

Because "less successful professionally" does not mean he is not kind, intelligent, or a good father.

Exactly. I have a son who would love to become a teacher. My husband and I are torn about this. Of course we want him to pursue his dream and be happy but god forbid the women he meets don't think that he's worthy of being their husband. It's sad. They'd rather he sells his soul to the almighty dollar and bitch about how he's unhappy and resentful instead of joining with him to create a wonderful life together, doing what they love. I have nothing against women choosing to wait until they have careers of their dreams before choosing a spouse and/or children. I was lucky that, as a lawyer, I found a worthy and wonderful partner at the age of 27. But I wasn't looking at his paycheck when I chose him.

I know quite a few female lawyers married to male teachers. I think they met in college or early career so don't know if that makes a difference. I think the difference with teachers is it is a livable wage in Montgomery County with good benefits, often they have Masters degree, in theory they are good with kids and can have hours that can be conducive to balancing children and careers, some but not all also coach youth sports too. I think the challenge is financially it would take two salaries in this area unless you are going to have an insane commute, so both he and his future spouse would need to be okay with that.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.[/quote

It's correlation but not causation.
Kids of single moms in stable homes are fine.

Yup. I would edit that to read Kids in financially stable homes are fine." Over 40% of single mom households are ALSO below the poverty line. That might account for PP's assertion that kids in homes with a single mom "do not do well." But if you have the financial means, then go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are these threads just a few people engaging in arguments?

In the real world the vast majority of men and women I know found suitable partners and conceived children in normal time frames.

If you can't find a high achieving man or a hot enough woman, the problem is you, and that you have an over inflated sense of what you can attract in the dating market

Actually, statistically speaking, there is absolutely a parity of comparably successful men to women in the dating market. Guess you're choosing to ignore that part

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4665018/Women-freezing-eggs-t-man.html

This is interesting. Should women simply have children on their own and raise them themselves?

Um, why not just have kids with a man who is "less successful" professionally?

But the short answer is no. Kids raised by single moms do not do well at all.[/quote

It's correlation but not causation.
Kids of single moms in stable homes are fine.

No, they aren't. Absence of a father is extremely harmful regardless of how "stable" the home is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just need to start rasing our kids like the Asians and Africans do.

No more finding yourself college years?

You have a career picked out before you apply to undergrad.
During undergrad you find husband/wife

You graduate undergrad.

You get married.

Graduate school/ Fun travels.

Finish Grad school and have babies.

All done by 30.

Granted it would take parents focusing more on attending college for a career and not just an experience.

It would take prioritizing marriage and children and not just dating, and sex , and partying.

No thanks. The finding myself, partying, traveling 20s were the best decade ever.

I partied and travelled with my DH in my 20s and we both grew up together.

So do you have any separate friendships? Any important memories from your 20s that don't include your DH?