We visited UVA this weekend...

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to the people who say things like "UVA will be a safety for my child" is like listening to all the people who tell you their toddlers are profoundly gifted. Only time will tell. This poster may have a very different attitude about a year from now.

UVA is a safety for TJ students except for maybe the bottom 10%.

So that's why 76 of them enrolled for class of 2020?

Yo, in-state tuition rocks. - TJ parent

+ 1. I have two students in VA state schools. We pay less for UVA than we did for DC's last year of private by over $15,000.

And you get room and board, too! $26K a year inclusive for UVA vs. $40K for a private DC high school with no room and board. What a deal! Yes, I paid my Virginia taxes for 25 years to get here but I am thrilled.

I do find that it's the parents that seem over the moon about UVa, much more so than the students themselves. This is just my experience from talking to families I know at UVa. And I'm no bitter parent, my kids are just in Elem School and I'm sure I'd love the bargain you get at UVa too. But it is something that I've noticed, the students' reactions to their school are much more muted. Everyone I've talked to have said they like the school but it's not really the enthusiastic "I Love it!!!" reaction that you hear from the parents. My guess is that, the students were pressed into going because of the instate tuition, that it would not be their first choice if money was not a factor.

Sure, maybe. But speaking as one of those middle-class kids who was pressed into going there (15 years ago), I can say that I got a good education and I'm very happy I never had to take out any student loans. I was not at all into the Greek scene, but as others have said, it's a big school and I found my niche. I have no regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you not attend college?

I attended Oxford University, thanks very much.

Bahahahahaha! You do know all we have to do is google 'Oxford drinking parties,' right?? Wow. Not very bright.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/drinking-societies-oxbridge-clubs-oxford-piers-gaveston-cambridge-wyverns

Hmmm.. I went to Cambridge, so v similar to Oxford. There was loads of drinking; many students and professors were completely wasted a lot of the time. As a Jew I had to learn the new skill of drinking slowly to seem to be keeping up because there was literally no way I could ingest that much alcohol in one go. I'm not particularly troubled by the idea of students in a bar at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon (actually, I'm not sure where else they are supposed to be?) But having recently visited some US universities including UVA, I think there is a different drinking culture in those schools that I don't really like - or maybe it's the frat boy thing. Anyway, just saying to the OP, I understand where you are coming from.

What does the bolded mean?

PP here - it means, Jewish people (generally) cannot hold their drink or consume anything like as much as many others (generally - and the group of students in my college was not hugely diverse so really I mean white Christians. Asians were generally not part of the crazy drinking culture either). I'd have one drink to every 2 or 3 of theirs. I still use this technique from time to time.

I have never heard of this before, and I went to a primarily Jewish school, went to and worked at Jewish camps, and worked in a business owned by a family that is Jewish and most of my coworkers and clients were Jewish. So, while I am not Jewish myself, I have spent a lot of time in situations where I am the only person who is not Jewish and no one has ever mentioned to me that they had any difficulty holding their drink. I am not much of a drinker myself, so I guess the topic never presented itself.

Is this well known and I am just the only person who never heard of this?

PP here - interesting... no idea! I'm British and Jewish - perhaps that is the difference? i.e. the way British non-Jewish people drink is very different to the way American non-Jewish people drink. I'd say what I wrote would be instantly understood and recognised by British Jews. And when I say Jewish people can't hold their drink, it's through that (excessive) lens - we can have a few glasses of wine, a few beers, etc. But go to a pub with some of my British (non-Jewish) friends and they're drinking 8 pints of beer, easily.

Those are some mighty broad generalizations. I'm Jewish and went to school with many other Jewish kids. We drank like fish. People are individuals, you know.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you SURE you were on Rugby Road? Because it looks like this, not like what you were describing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_Greek_life

Ha. It also can look like this:

Ah yes, the very fake rape accusation.

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I do find that it's the parents that seem over the moon about UVa, much more so than the students themselves. This is just my experience from talking to families I know at UVa. And I'm no bitter parent, my kids are just in Elem School and I'm sure I'd love the bargain you get at UVa too. But it is something that I've noticed, the students' reactions to their school are much more muted. Everyone I've talked to have said they like the school but it's not really the enthusiastic "I Love it!!!" reaction that you hear from the parents. My guess is that, the students were pressed into going because of the instate tuition, that it would not be their first choice if money was not a factor.

You are not related to them. They may gush about it with friends and family, but not with you.
I am actually not that crazy about UVA, because I am a nerd and prefer more studious atmosphere, which at UVA is present, but somewhat overshadowed by greek life. My kid, however, adored it, but she never gushed or squealed with enthusiasm when friends or relatives asked her about college. She had an active social life without getting involved with a sorority, and her friend group was pretty diverse.

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I do find that it's the parents that seem over the moon about UVa, much more so than the students themselves. This is just my experience from talking to families I know at UVa. And I'm no bitter parent, my kids are just in Elem School and I'm sure I'd love the bargain you get at UVa too. But it is something that I've noticed, the students' reactions to their school are much more muted. Everyone I've talked to have said they like the school but it's not really the enthusiastic "I Love it!!!" reaction that you hear from the parents. My guess is that, the students were pressed into going because of the instate tuition, that it would not be their first choice if money was not a factor.

Then why are you on this thread? If you don't have any teenagers of your own, you could be completely misinterpreting the attitudes you are seeing. Teens these days are raised on social media and don't have the social skills of their parents.

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I do find that it's the parents that seem over the moon about UVa, much more so than the students themselves. This is just my experience from talking to families I know at UVa. And I'm no bitter parent, my kids are just in Elem School and I'm sure I'd love the bargain you get at UVa too. But it is something that I've noticed, the students' reactions to their school are much more muted. Everyone I've talked to have said they like the school but it's not really the enthusiastic "I Love it!!!" reaction that you hear from the parents. My guess is that, the students were pressed into going because of the instate tuition, that it would not be their first choice if money was not a factor.

Then why are you on this thread? If you don't have any teenagers of your own, you could be completely misinterpreting the attitudes you are seeing. Teens these days are raised on social media and don't have the social skills of their parents.

Could not be more wrong for this family. I couldn't shoehorn my DD there out of the place if I wanted to. She and her friends LOVE the place. Love love love. They (a group of about 75) are so happy. Not one of them is into the Greek scene. Three are in the Jefferson Society, the debate and literary society. A number are on the school newspaper, the Daily Cavalier. Others are into drama. Three into political clubs. They've all found their niche and are so happy there. I've not heard of one single complaint or student in her class that wants to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Said by a creature from Faulkner's barn.

Haha! Yes!

I can't believe we're 8 pages in and everyone still thinks OP went to the University of Oxford.

OXFORD UNIVERSITY, PEOPLE! In Mississippi!

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Anonymous wrote:Said by a creature from Faulkner's barn.

Haha! Yes!

I can't believe we're 8 pages in and everyone still thinks OP went to the University of Oxford.

OXFORD UNIVERSITY, PEOPLE! In Mississippi!

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Anonymous wrote:Nope, sorry. Sensitive, much? I've been to tons of college campuses (I work in higher ed), and UVA just isn't up there, either the campus or the town, in my informed opinion. Let me know when YOU have been to 50+ universities, for long weekends or more at a time.

Wow, someone has an inferiority complex. Hard to believe, but some of the parents here have multiple children and HAVE seen dozens and dozens of college campuses. Most are beautiful. Some are stunning. UVA is stunning. You know that people travel from across the country and other countries to see UVA and Monticello on vacation, right?

Everyone I've talked to have said they like the school but it's not really the enthusiastic "I Love it!!!" reaction that you hear from the parents.

Yet they ALL wear the shirts, sing the song, and chant the UVA chant.

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Anonymous wrote:Could not be more wrong for this family. I couldn't shoehorn my DD there out of the place if I wanted to. She and her friends LOVE the place. Love love love. They (a group of about 75) are so happy. Not one of them is into the Greek scene. Three are in the Jefferson Society, the debate and literary society. A number are on the school newspaper, the Daily Cavalier. Others are into drama. Three into political clubs. They've all found their niche and are so happy there. I've not heard of one single complaint or student in her class that wants to leave.

I hope everyone's child lands at a place that makes them feel this way!

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Anonymous wrote:Could not be more wrong for this family. I couldn't shoehorn my DD there out of the place if I wanted to. She and her friends LOVE the place. Love love love. They (a group of about 75) are so happy. Not one of them is into the Greek scene. Three are in the Jefferson Society, the debate and literary society. A number are on the school newspaper, the Daily Cavalier. Others are into drama. Three into political clubs. They've all found their niche and are so happy there. I've not heard of one single complaint or student in her class that wants to leave.

I hope everyone's child lands at a place that makes them feel this way!

I wish that for everyone! We got the right fit!

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It's so important to visit all of your state's schools. From chatter among parents you'd think UVA is all there is. It's wonderful but it's definitely not for everyone. We also have state schools that are huge, small, near cities, near the beach, near the mountains, near historic areas, have huge Greek life, have no greek life, have a huge sports focus, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP got into UVA. Greek row is stunningly beautiful. UVA keeps popping up as no. 1 or no. 2 for most beautiful on those never-ending ratings lists. My DD attends there and is involved in other clubs, not the greek scene, but I've driven by those buildings many times and don't know what OP is talking about.

Er, not stunningly beautiful.

Agreed that while UVA is a good university overall, it is not a "stunning" campus by ANY stretch of the imagination. There are simply too many big, beautiful campuses out there that truly deserve the descriptor of "stunning": Pepperdine, Emory, UC Santa Cruz, Indiana-Bloomington, Kenyon...UVA just doesn't measure up.

And . . .you would be wrong by many publications. http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2014/09/11/most-beautiful-colleges-in-america-best-college-reviews-ranking/

Nope, sorry. Sensitive, much? I've been to tons of college campuses (I work in higher ed), and UVA just isn't up there, either the campus or the town, in my informed opinion. Let me know when YOU have been to 50+ universities, for long weekends or more at a time.

Looks like your judgment might be off. Another publication. No. 1 out of the 100 most beautiful campuses in America. http://www.bestcollegereviews.org/features/most-beautiful-college-campuses/

Really, stop. Your ignorance is showing. You DO realize that most of those listings of the best this or that or the most beautiful this or that are pay-for-play inclusion, right? Essentially advertising. Or a call from the "reporter" to the university's PR and "is there somewhere I can stay while I rate your campus" and oh how convenient, two comped nights at the university union hotel and a free parking pass...

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I went to a small New England LAC reknowned for its beauty and attended or lived at 3 Ivy's also well known for their looks (HYP), as well as spent lots of time at Stanford, which is also no slouch in the looks department. UVA is just as nice as any of those, looks wise, The PP is whack. But I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

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Really, stop. Your ignorance is showing. You DO realize that most of those listings of the best this or that or the most beautiful this or that are pay-for-play inclusion, right? Essentially advertising. Or a call from the "reporter" to the university's PR and "is there somewhere I can stay while I rate your campus" and oh how convenient, two comped nights at the university union hotel and a free parking pass...

Calm down and stop fighting about whether UVA is pretty or not. The fact that UVA is beautiful doesn't mean the college where you work isn't also beautiful.

You're coming off as a kid who is working where you also went to school and hasn't realized that putting down other schools actually makes you look unprofessional. Relax with the competitiveness.