Possible Rape at Sidwell?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the alleged rape occurred at around 2:30 pm, why was it not reported until 11 pm? Strange.

Have you been raped? I didn't realize rape victims run straight to tell. Give me a break!

It allegedly occurred on a campus in broad daylight during school hours, with hundreds of teachers, administrators and students at school and (as others have pointed out) with law enforcement officers also stationed at the school. And the report is made to police at night nearly 12 hours later? Not saying it didn't happen, but it's weird that the first report was nearly 12 hours later and then to police.

It says it happened "after 2:30". I am guessing that 2:30 is the dismissal from the academic portion of the day.

It does not seem unusual to me that a young person would first go to her parents and they would contact the police together.

[Anonymous]

does the school notify the potential college of the suspect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly this appears to be rape... apparently consent was not given.
it is important to note, consent is not implied just because they had a previous sexual relationship.
No consent = rape
I hope her identity is kept private and they all get proper counseling. Devastating for all indeed.

Why do you think it's important to note this? Everyone knows this. No need to state the obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we just close this thread now. Nothing good will come of it.

Heaven forbid we don't discuss an incident of sexual assault that occurred at one of the most famous private schools in the country, one attended by the president's children. We should just sweep that under the rug, right np? It must be uncomfortable for Sidwell families to have it discussed, eh? Is that what you mean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^SS is not all over the campus. Heck, they aren't even like glue to the daughters. I was on campus a few months ago, one of the daughters walked right by me, SS wasn't that close.

Not to mention that the Secret Service (SS is for Germans) has had its own issues with sexual misconduct.

I missed where Secret Service agents were raping folks. Please direct me.

[Anonymous]

Vitally critical to discuss consequences of rape.
Unless you're the perp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the alleged rape occurred at around 2:30 pm, why was it not reported until 11 pm? Strange.

Have you been raped? I didn't realize rape victims run straight to tell. Give me a break!

It allegedly occurred on a campus in broad daylight during school hours, with hundreds of teachers, administrators and students at school and (as others have pointed out) with law enforcement officers also stationed at the school. And the report is made to police at night nearly 12 hours later? Not saying it didn't happen, but it's weird that the first report was nearly 12 hours later and then to police.

So you think the rape occurred in plain view? Come on now...

[Anonymous]

I hope the suspect is in custody, banned from campus. These kids have the means to flee...

[Anonymous]

Oh please give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: it's worth pointing out that there's a big difference between universities and schools where most children are under the age of majority, so there is no such thing as a "consensual" sexual relationship legally.

This is not accurate. Age of consent and of legal adulthood are typically different in the US. And in DC (as well as other US jurisdictions), whether the relationship is consensual depends, in part, on the age difference between the two parties. So the law does, in fact, recognize the existence of consensual sex between minors (and even consensual sex between a minor and a legal adult who are close in age).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Welp that rejection letter we got from Sidwell doesn't sting as much anymore. Glad that I don't habe to deal with family and friends asking if that's the same school I'm sending my DD to!

Silver lining.

Guess you can say the same about Stanford, Yale, Harvard, Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, Columbia etc.. Might not have any colleges to apply to.

I said it doesn't sting as much. When a school has a scandal of this magnitude it's a normal reaction to think along those lines. Rape can and does happen anywhere. Doesn't mean you aren't glad you aren't at the place it most recently happened.

Do you give voice to every "normal" reaction you have, no matter how narcissistic or cruel?

[Anonymous]

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Heaven forbid we don't discuss an incident of sexual assault that occurred at one of the most famous private schools in the country, one attended by the president's children. We should just sweep that under the rug, right np? It must be uncomfortable for Sidwell families to have it discussed, eh? Is that what you mean?

If there was no transparency with the school, or the school was trying to cover it up, that would be one thing, but otherwise, this is a private and legal matter. I am not sure where hypothesizing about the victim etc. will result in anything good, as evidenced by the amount of moderating Mr. Steele has been doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Glad to see the police rather than the school handling the investigation. Rape is a crime and, to protect the rights of all involved, adjudication and punishment shouldn't be left to the discretion of private schools.

+1. Rape and other sexual assaults are crimes. In our society, we report crimes and the police/prosecutors take it from there. The kangaroo courts in colleges for campus "sexual misconduct" are a disgrace. Either it's consensual or it's not.

Not just colleges. Similar dynamics in local privates. Worse, actually, since the disciplinary process is even less transparent.

Re either it's consensual or it's not. While the non-consensual aspect of some sexual conduct is obvious (use of force, threats, drugs, position of power/trust, presence of active resistance), there are more ambiguous situations in which one party believes there has been consent and another does not. This is why we're seeing the yes means yes/affirmative consent movement. And part of the reason why we're hearing of cases like the one involving the basketball player at Yale, which someone posted about in the college forum yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Sidwell should have security for the entire student body not just
the Obamas. Incredible damage to this school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the alleged rape occurred at around 2:30 pm, why was it not reported until 11 pm? Strange.

Have you been raped? I didn't realize rape victims run straight to tell. Give me a break!

It allegedly occurred on a campus in broad daylight during school hours, with hundreds of teachers, administrators and students at school and (as others have pointed out) with law enforcement officers also stationed at the school. And the report is made to police at night nearly 12 hours later? Not saying it didn't happen, but it's weird that the first report was nearly 12 hours later and then to police.

No, it's not weird at all for a scared kid who has just been raped who probably is in shock and feels a range of emotional overwhelm to wait a few hours to report it. I am sure that this is also true with adults and not every rape is reported the minute it ends as you seem to imply it needs to be or it didn't happen.

What you are implying is that somehow the girl must he wrong or lying. She has to be because according to you, she didn't do things in the exact time frame in the exact way that you dictate what should have been done ignoring completely that she is a person who has emotions and her own thoughts and feelings.