Serious question for strenuous anti CIO advocates

[Anonymous]

I wonder how many of these supportive posts are OP.

NP, No joke, 1+. What particularly odd is not only the length of the shower, but how OP seemed to want some sort of group counsel and support for how to leave her baby crying throughout the day. Sort of, tell me it's OK and/or how to to steel my heart against my newborn's cries. It would be concerning, but it seems so fake . . . that that is some relief!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of these supportive posts are OP

I wonder how many of the negative posts are the same over-anxious judgmental reading comprehension impaired PP

Struck a nerve with you, eh?

I'm not that PP, but yeah, bitches who get their jollies by tearing down new moms on the internet do strike a nerve with me. Pretending you give a damn about some 4 week old who possibly suffered for 20 minutes, when really you just want to feel artificially superior and tear her poor new FTM down (likely causing more suffering for the baby). Yeah, that strikes an f-ing nerve with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of these supportive posts are OP

I wonder how many of the negative posts are the same over-anxious judgmental reading comprehension impaired PP

Struck a nerve with you, eh?

I'm not that PP, but yeah, bitches who get their jollies by tearing down new moms on the internet do strike a nerve with me. Pretending you give a damn about some 4 week old who possibly suffered for 20 minutes, when really you just want to feel artificially superior and tear her poor new FTM down (likely causing more suffering for the baby). Yeah, that strikes an f-ing nerve with me.

I absolutely care that a newborn baby has been left to cry multiple times. Let's be real, this entire post was a gotchya for the anti cio folks or an attempt to convince oneself that CIO this young is fine. Instead it has been repeatedly pointed out that you need to care for a newborn on demand. It wasn't until after the OP basically said she isn't willing to change her life that much that people really started jumping down her throat, deservedly so.

[Anonymous]

I absolutely care that a newborn baby has been left to cry multiple times. Let's be real, this entire post was a gotchya for the anti cio folks or an attempt to convince oneself that CIO this young is fine. Instead it has been repeatedly pointed out that you need to care for a newborn on demand. It wasn't until after the OP basically said she isn't willing to change her life that much that people really started jumping down her throat, deservedly so.

1+.

And hopefully no more than trolling...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of these supportive posts are OP

I wonder how many of the negative posts are the same over-anxious judgmental reading comprehension impaired PP

Struck a nerve with you, eh?

I'm not that PP, but yeah, bitches who get their jollies by tearing down new moms on the internet do strike a nerve with me. Pretending you give a damn about some 4 week old who possibly suffered for 20 minutes, when really you just want to feel artificially superior and tear her poor new FTM down (likely causing more suffering for the baby). Yeah, that strikes an f-ing nerve with me.

I absolutely care that a newborn baby has been left to cry multiple times. Let's be real, this entire post was a gotchya for the anti cio folks or an attempt to convince oneself that CIO this young is fine. Instead it has been repeatedly pointed out that you need to care for a newborn on demand. It wasn't until after the OP basically said she isn't willing to change her life that much that people really started jumping down her throat, deservedly so.

I agree with you that it was a very poorly conceived gotcha (I was the first one to say that on this thread in fact). So everything that happened was pretty predictable from there, including the part where she predictably tried to defend herself after a bunch (or 1-2 masquerading as a bunch) called her a horrible mother/heartless person/etc. The part that went over the line was you horrible people doubling down after that and creating horrific and totally baseless metaphors.

Again, if you care that a newborn is left to cry, you should probably focus your efforts on something more productive such as donating to starving women and children in third world countries or becoming an activist for single moms who don't get enough time off from work and have to go right back, and have LITERALLY NO CHOICE but to shower with the baby crying if it's crying, so that they can go back to work and support the baby.

This middle class DCUM baby is going to be just fine without your intervention, which as I pointed out before, is far more likely to hurt the baby than help it - you are demeaning the baby's mother, who is probably already vulnerable. Putting her in a more vulnerable state WILL NOT HELP THIS BABY. Your going away might though, so if you ACTUALLY care about the baby, please go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of these supportive posts are OP

I wonder how many of the negative posts are the same over-anxious judgmental reading comprehension impaired PP

Struck a nerve with you, eh?

I'm not that PP, but yeah, bitches who get their jollies by tearing down new moms on the internet do strike a nerve with me. Pretending you give a damn about some 4 week old who possibly suffered for 20 minutes, when really you just want to feel artificially superior and tear her poor new FTM down (likely causing more suffering for the baby). Yeah, that strikes an f-ing nerve with me.

I absolutely care that a newborn baby has been left to cry multiple times. Let's be real, this entire post was a gotchya for the anti cio folks or an attempt to convince oneself that CIO this young is fine. Instead it has been repeatedly pointed out that you need to care for a newborn on demand. It wasn't until after the OP basically said she isn't willing to change her life that much that people really started jumping down her throat, deservedly so.

I agree with you that it was a very poorly conceived gotcha (I was the first one to say that on this thread in fact). So everything that happened was pretty predictable from there, including the part where she predictably tried to defend herself after a bunch (or 1-2 masquerading as a bunch) called her a horrible mother/heartless person/etc. The part that went over the line was you horrible people doubling down after that and creating horrific and totally baseless metaphors.

Again, if you care that a newborn is left to cry, you should probably focus your efforts on something more productive such as donating to starving women and children in third world countries or becoming an activist for single moms who don't get enough time off from work and have to go right back, and have LITERALLY NO CHOICE but to shower with the baby crying if it's crying, so that they can go back to work and support the baby.

This middle class DCUM baby is going to be just fine without your intervention, which as I pointed out before, is far more likely to hurt the baby than help it - you are demeaning the baby's mother, who is probably already vulnerable. Putting her in a more vulnerable state WILL NOT HELP THIS BABY. Your going away might though, so if you ACTUALLY care about the baby, please go away.

+1

This is such a quintessential DCUM thread devolving into crazed bitchiness. Ladies, check yourselves!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, now that I think of it...this is why I probably smelled so bad the first month of my daughter's life. Half assed showering

Absolutely!

[jsteele]

It is so rare to have an argument about CIO. I thought that everyone on DCUM was in prefect agreement on that topic, along with breastfeeding, circumcision, and working out of the house. So, I am shocked that this thread has devolved the way that it has. I'm going to lock it so that it can remain in pristine condition as the rare artifact that it is.