UVA student missing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And NBC4 is saying he had on black jeans. Wth! He was wearing those weird white jammer shorts.

Just because there's a black guy in the video doesn't mean it's the person of interest? Lots of amateur detectives on here!

Very very sad all around, I hope she is found but these stories rarely have happy endings.

Have you even watched the videos? There is a black guy who changes directions after Hannah passes and then is seen following her and then walking next to her, possibly with his arm around her shoulder.

Not pp but I had a hard time figuring out who folks were referring to in those videos at first. The guy with the white shorts looked to be alone both times he passed thru the video. I didn't notice him putting his arm around the girl I thought was Hannah, but maybe I didn't even pin down who she was. Definitely do not know all the details in this case but presuming the cops know more than we do, personally I don't have a reason to doubt the description of who they are looking for, but my assessment of the video is not that good.

The police questioned the black guy with dreds in the white shorts. He's a student. He said that he followed Graham because she looked like she was in distress and told police that before he could catch up with her, another man approached her and put his arm around her.

This second man was described by police "as black, between 5-foot-10 and 5-foot-11, 250 to 285 pounds, with a close-shaved head, goatee, and a slight "beer belly" in his late 20s to early 30s and wearing black jeans and a white t-shirt."

This person of interest is NOT on the videos

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/two-new-videos-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham-show-two-men-interacting-with-her-vigil-planned-.html

Thank you for clearing this up. That guy must be kicking himself now for not perusing her further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And NBC4 is saying he had on black jeans. Wth! He was wearing those weird white jammer shorts.

Just because there's a black guy in the video doesn't mean it's the person of interest? Lots of amateur detectives on here!

Very very sad all around, I hope she is found but these stories rarely have happy endings.

Have you even watched the videos? There is a black guy who changes directions after Hannah passes and then is seen following her and then walking next to her, possibly with his arm around her shoulder.

Not pp but I had a hard time figuring out who folks were referring to in those videos at first. The guy with the white shorts looked to be alone both times he passed thru the video. I didn't notice him putting his arm around the girl I thought was Hannah, but maybe I didn't even pin down who she was. Definitely do not know all the details in this case but presuming the cops know more than we do, personally I don't have a reason to doubt the description of who they are looking for, but my assessment of the video is not that good.

The police questioned the black guy with dreds in the white shorts. He's a student. He said that he followed Graham because she looked like she was in distress and told police that before he could catch up with her, another man approached her and put his arm around her.

This second man was described by police "as black, between 5-foot-10 and 5-foot-11, 250 to 285 pounds, with a close-shaved head, goatee, and a slight "beer belly" in his late 20s to early 30s and wearing black jeans and a white t-shirt."

This person of interest is NOT on the videos

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/two-new-videos-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham-show-two-men-interacting-with-her-vigil-planned-.html

Thank you for clearing this up. That guy must be kicking himself now for not perusing her further.

No, they didn't talk to the dreadlock guy. They spoke to the "doorway guy" in the Sal's video (and I don't think he's a student, at least he doesn't look like it from the video). The guy I'm talking about is seen in the forefront of the Sal's video after the two Hispanic-looking women pass. You see his shadow in the lower left as they pass and then he walks in front of the camera. He has on white 3/4 shorts. He then disappears for a few seconds and reappears on the other side of the patio, heading the opposite direction behind the group of guys. In the second video (jewelry store), he is seen right next to Hannah appearing to talk to her. And doorway guy is following a few yards behind them. I feel like the police are not seeing the connection. They should be broadcasting the black guy's image all over the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And NBC4 is saying he had on black jeans. Wth! He was wearing those weird white jammer shorts.

Just because there's a black guy in the video doesn't mean it's the person of interest? Lots of amateur detectives on here!

Very very sad all around, I hope she is found but these stories rarely have happy endings.

Have you even watched the videos? There is a black guy who changes directions after Hannah passes and then is seen following her and then walking next to her, possibly with his arm around her shoulder.

Not pp but I had a hard time figuring out who folks were referring to in those videos at first. The guy with the white shorts looked to be alone both times he passed thru the video. I didn't notice him putting his arm around the girl I thought was Hannah, but maybe I didn't even pin down who she was. Definitely do not know all the details in this case but presuming the cops know more than we do, personally I don't have a reason to doubt the description of who they are looking for, but my assessment of the video is not that good.

The police questioned the black guy with dreds in the white shorts. He's a student. He said that he followed Graham because she looked like she was in distress and told police that before he could catch up with her, another man approached her and put his arm around her.

This second man was described by police "as black, between 5-foot-10 and 5-foot-11, 250 to 285 pounds, with a close-shaved head, goatee, and a slight "beer belly" in his late 20s to early 30s and wearing black jeans and a white t-shirt."

This person of interest is NOT on the videos

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/two-new-videos-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham-show-two-men-interacting-with-her-vigil-planned-.html

Whoa, slow down, most of this is untrue. The person who was questioned was the white guy, not the guy with dreadlocks. Also, nothing has been stated about whether he is a student or not.

[Anonymous]

Also the dreadlock guy does not match the description given by police, so I presume there is another person whose image we have not seen. I'm hoping police will release a sketch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also the dreadlock guy does not match the description given by police, so I presume there is another person whose image we have not seen. I'm hoping police will release a sketch.

But what I don't understand is why they wouldn't want to track down dreadlock guy -- he is clearly seen in both videos, seemingly talking to her in the jewelry store one. And I think it's suspicious how he switched directions in the first video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And NBC4 is saying he had on black jeans. Wth! He was wearing those weird white jammer shorts.

Just because there's a black guy in the video doesn't mean it's the person of interest? Lots of amateur detectives on here!

Very very sad all around, I hope she is found but these stories rarely have happy endings.

Have you even watched the videos? There is a black guy who changes directions after Hannah passes and then is seen following her and then walking next to her, possibly with his arm around her shoulder.

Not pp but I had a hard time figuring out who folks were referring to in those videos at first. The guy with the white shorts looked to be alone both times he passed thru the video. I didn't notice him putting his arm around the girl I thought was Hannah, but maybe I didn't even pin down who she was. Definitely do not know all the details in this case but presuming the cops know more than we do, personally I don't have a reason to doubt the description of who they are looking for, but my assessment of the video is not that good.

The police questioned the black guy with dreds in the white shorts. He's a student. He said that he followed Graham because she looked like she was in distress and told police that before he could catch up with her, another man approached her and put his arm around her.

This second man was described by police "as black, between 5-foot-10 and 5-foot-11, 250 to 285 pounds, with a close-shaved head, goatee, and a slight "beer belly" in his late 20s to early 30s and wearing black jeans and a white t-shirt."

This person of interest is NOT on the videos

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/two-new-videos-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham-show-two-men-interacting-with-her-vigil-planned-.html

Thank you for clearing this up. That guy must be kicking himself now for not perusing her further.

No, they didn't talk to the dreadlock guy. They spoke to the "doorway guy" in the Sal's video (and I don't think he's a student, at least he doesn't look like it from the video). The guy I'm talking about is seen in the forefront of the Sal's video after the two Hispanic-looking women pass. You see his shadow in the lower left as they pass and then he walks in front of the camera. He has on white 3/4 shorts. He then disappears for a few seconds and reappears on the other side of the patio, heading the opposite direction behind the group of guys. In the second video (jewelry store), he is seen right next to Hannah appearing to talk to her. And doorway guy is following a few yards behind them. I feel like the police are not seeing the connection. They should be broadcasting the black guy's image all over the news.

Yes, black guy = automatic suspect.

[Anonymous]

The guy in the video is standing there lurking and then jumps out and follows her. She does not look in distress, she looks like she is walking quickly. He probably made up the story about the second man and he was following her to help her. That is creepy. She probably started running because her first instinct was that she was being followed by that man. But she stopped because she told herself she was being paranoid. Listen to that first instinct! I am sure the police are following the lurker on the video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy in the video is standing there lurking and then jumps out and follows her. She does not look in distress, she looks like she is walking quickly. He probably made up the story about the second man and he was following her to help her. That is creepy. She probably started running because her first instinct was that she was being followed by that man. But she stopped because she told herself she was being paranoid. Listen to that first instinct! I am sure the police are following the lurker on the video.

Please read articles before you make stupid comments. The video of her running was earlier than the downtown mall videos. And the "lurker" already came forward and has been questioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also the dreadlock guy does not match the description given by police, so I presume there is another person whose image we have not seen. I'm hoping police will release a sketch.

But what I don't understand is why they wouldn't want to track down dreadlock guy -- he is clearly seen in both videos, seemingly talking to her in the jewelry store one. And I think it's suspicious how he switched directions in the first video.

They may well have already questioned him.

[Anonymous]

RICHMOND, Va. – Local and state emergency officials are seeking volunteers to assist with a mass search for Hannah Graham planned for early Saturday, Sept. 20. Graham is a student at the University of Virginia who has been missing since Saturday morning.

All volunteer searchers are subject to a background check and must register online at helpfindhannah.brmrg.org no later than 5 p.m. Friday. Anyone who is unable to register online can register in person at John Paul Jones Arena (295 Massie Road in Charlottesville) prior to the 7 p.m. Friday volunteer briefing. Only those who have registered will be permitted to participate in Saturday’s search.

Volunteer searchers must:

Be at least 18 years old
Carry NO weapons
Bring a copy of the registration form and driver’s license
Wear proper footwear and clothing for weather and conditions
Bring water to stay hydrated
Indicate on registration if they have previous military and/or search-and-rescue (SAR) experience
Be physically in shape for walking/searching in up to four-hour periods

http://www.vaemergency.gov/news/news-releases/2014/charlottesvilleSAR0918

[Anonymous]

Y'all should go offer to volunteer for the police since clearly you know what is going on better than they do. So they're pursuing the wrong guy then! Tsk tsk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all should go offer to volunteer for the police since clearly you know what is going on better than they do. So they're pursuing the wrong guy then! Tsk tsk.

Well, the police did say in one of the articles that it is just Hannah's reflection in the jewelry store video, not another person. Unless her reflection makes her look like a pot-bellied black dude with dreads, I have no reason to think they are competent.

[Anonymous]

Where does anyone see the dreads guy talking to her?

[Anonymous]

If you really think the police are screwing up please call the tip line and make your case. Seriously. I don't know, I have only watched the videos on my phone and can't really see anything.

[Anonymous]

I watched them on my PC. You definitely see a lot there. It would be v. difficult to see on a phone. There are other blogs specializing in unsolved crimes that have similar observations as what is being discussed here. Scroll back a few pages in this thread and you will see that people have posted links to the surveilance videos and the time stamps where things are happening.