Attention white people

[Anonymous]

I recently lost a LOT of weight. It opened my eyes to the subtle differences in how people treat others based on appearance. As a white person, I already had it pretty good. But as a THIN white person? Wow, people are VERY friendly now, even women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

[Anonymous]

OP; if you are still reading, I should share that I read none but your post.

Here's a story for you. During University, we were discussing the social welfare system (which included pell grants and stafford loans). A black male in my class basically made the same argument that you did...people all assumed that he was from the system and was benefiting from PGs and SLs and it pissed him off b/c his parents saved to send him and his sibs to school.

I was an average white girl with a very preppy look and followed up his story by quietly stating that I was going to school totally funded by PGs and SLs. The look on his face was priceless as we were two sides of the same assumption.

Now I am fabulously well off (ok, just well off) and people assume I come from privilege. I go back and forth between letting them assume and telling them harrowing stories of poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

You sound angry and defensive as hell. Your post reeks of someone who holds prejudiced viewpoints, whether you want to admit it or not. You still don't seem to have a firm grasp of what white privilege is, so I'm puzzled at why the term offends you so much. Only a truly disingenuous person will deny that it exists.

And I don't you hear constant whining from black people, lest of all of this forum. That's just an easy go to argument to supportive your shitty view of black people.

[Anonymous]

oh good lord. Just read a few posts. 14:16 here. I don't think of myself as a victim or survivor. I just was handed a situation and worked with it. Now, when I outmyself, I do it for fun.

Poor folks stories are funny when told over a glass of wine in a nice backyard with a smoky fire warming toes. Also, it's fun to shock the progressives who don't know ACTUAL poor people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

NP here who really tries not to get involved in these threads that devolve so quickly. I think 13:48 responded to you to try and explain white privilege in a way that you chose to ignore. I am a white women and I can understand what the term means. It has nothing to do with me as an individual or where I came from, it is all about perceptions. These conversations about race are important and I read them because there are some thoughtful people from both sides who offer fresh perspectives to add to the conversation. Your anger does not, your entitlement does not... If you have come here to brag about how hard you worked and it was all done without privilege, than you CHOSE to not get it.

We ALL have our bag of hammers, as humans trying to navigate our way through life we ALL struggle, stop taking a conversation about race and making it all about YOUR struggle and how an entire race of people should just get over it! These generalizations help no one and do nothing to forward the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:oh good lord. Just read a few posts. 14:16 here. I don't think of myself as a victim or survivor. I just was handed a situation and worked with it. Now, when I outmyself, I do it for fun.

Poor folks stories are funny when told over a glass of wine in a nice backyard with a smoky fire warming toes. Also, it's fun to shock the progressives who don't know ACTUAL poor people.

IME, the stories are different. Poverty for whites is seen as down on their luck honest people; poverty for blacks: criminal and possible violent upbringings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

You need to read 13:48's message to you before you keep posting the same thing over and over. There is more than one way to look at privilege and you seem to think the only way is "handed everything on a silver platter and never want for anything and always have money and never struggle." That's not the definition of white privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

seriously? those white ppl must not be from the DC area. I'm white, but I could see things were a lot different (perceptions for AA ppl) when I went to college out of town. Leaving this area is like going back in time in some ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

You DO realize that your post reeks of "playing the victim." It like you are saying "Hey, I had it tough TOO." I also do not think you know what is meant by "White privilege." It has nothing to do with being wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Wait? There are black people on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

I agreehave with youthe, OP! I live in a neighborhood in DC with many wealthy AA families. Most of the white families I know think I live in the ghetto because of my neighbors. It is insane! Black =/= poor criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy, fuck. Can we simply stop these damn threads. Everyone wants to play the victim. I am a victim because I am a poor black. I am a victim because I am a rich black assumed to have been a poor black. I am a victim because I was a poor white assumed to have privileged I never had. I am victim because I am a rich white and have to pay for everyone else. I am a victim because I am an asian and everyone expects me to have superior intelligence....Where the hell does it stop. As a young child I understood that racism is wrong. However, all this victimization is just about to push me somewhere I don't want to go.


My problem with people like you is that you discount people by calling them victims. Progress can not be made when you have such a disdain for the struggles of others.


People like me? I am a fucking white person who grew up in abject poverty in an abusive home and I managed to claw my way out of the gutter. I don't claim victimhood. I am a survivor and yet every fucking day I have to hear about my goddamn privilege from people who don't have a damn clue about what it means to go to bed hungry or wear shoes with holes or have no winter coat. So yeah, I am getting pretty fed up with middle and upper class blacks claiming vicim hood. Get a fucking grip. Most people have struggles in life. I was never a racists until I started frequenting this board had had to hear about my privilege over and over and over again. People need to get a clue.


Interesting. You are actually claming it now...whether you realize it or not.

I am AA. Grew up poor as fvck. I am now very wealthy - worked for every goddamn thing I got. I am offended by your generalization because I would never claim victimhood - even when I was actually a victim. And MOST AA people I know are that way too. In fact, the White people in my circle claim victimhood MUCH more than the AA's I know.

And if coming to this board "made" you a racist...you were ALREADY a racist.

Bullfucking shit. I have never judged a person by the color of their skin. I wlll judge a person by the strength of their character. What is pushing me over the edge is the constant and I do mean constant references to "white privilege" as if somehow all whites are living the good life.

All we hear about it how fucking hard it is to be black in America. It isn't so great to be poor and white in America either. You get absolutely no breaks because you are "privileged". I didn't let that stop me, but seeing crap like op posting because she is rich and sick of being associated with poor and disadvantaged blacks is just utter nonsense. It is time for people to man up and quit crying victim--no matter what the color of one's skin.

America is falling behind because we are so busy trying to make sure our "numbers" look right--whether they be race, sex or sexual orientation--that we are hindering those who are most qualified to receive the promotion, get the slot at schools or even get the job. Common sense say that is problematic.

Lady ( I assume) I am the previous poster that tried to give you a definition of white privilege.
I really feel your pain. But your pain does not diminish the very real and current experiences of others who have been truly affected by racism, sexism, etc.
America is falling behind because we don't DEAL with racism past AND present. If racism was non-existent and everyone was bending over backwards to give undue advantage to black and brown women, I guess we'd be busy having a big ole' party instead of talking about the issues at hand. I am sure that if someone discounted the struggles that you encountered, that you would find it disconcerting at the very least. Baby you had it rough -- you ain't the only one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait? There are black people on DCUM?

HAHA! now THAT'S funny! Black lady here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly it's 2013, why is race such an issue????? I grew up in an area where whites were a minority and all of my friends were different races. Why is it that only black people make a big deal of their race? Black mothers were NOT happy when I dated their sons, but Asian and hispanic mothers didn't care. Why is it only "interracial" when people date/marry blacks? My best friend is Asian and married to a white man. She would never call her marriage interracial and never thinks about it.

I wish this whole country would move past affirmative action and instead focus on socioeconomic status instead of race. Poor whites are just as held back as poor blacks/hispanics.

My Asian in-laws were not, and I mean NOT, happy about my being involved with their son. They didn't stand in the way of our marrying but they weren't huge supporters either.

I've had someone tell me DD was so cute with her little "Chinky-eyes" and had another person ask me if DS was "some kinda Chink baby". So, yea, they are clearly inter-racial and racism does effect them. DD was asked the other day, by one of her classmates if she was adopted because she doesn't look anything like me. It's funny, DD looks like an Asian version of me.