Attention white people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread reminds me of an insufferable acquaintance of mine, who, within 30 seconds of meeting someone, makes sure to mention her parents are physicians, regardless of the conversation topic. Like you, OP, I guess she doesn't want to be confused with those ghetto Ns... But she just comes across as annoying and insecure.

LOL! You remind me of a fellow law student who made sure to mention that both of his parents were JUDGES, at every opportunity. Someone must have told him to cool, because he stopped doing this after the first year.

FWIW, he graduated in the middle of our class and now works as civil servant lawyer in his hometown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a black person, I dream of the day when black people stop making every topic about race, be it good or bad. It's annoying. Every black person feels judged because of their race. Stop bringing it up and it won't be about race.

I'm black and I think you're an idiot. It comes up every day whether I mention it or not. Besides, I value my heritage. I want to talk about it. It does mean something different. The cultures are different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

I am AA. grew up upper middle class and I wish you had not started this thread. [/quote

+1. OP did you need some type of validation. I hate to break this to you, but my dad has a 6th grade education and really did walk 5 miles to school. In this region, there are several high income black people, but it is still the anomaly in this country. Most black people are poor.

I make a lot of money. So what? Did I need someone's validation? They can think what they want. They still judge me and my black sons the same way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

I am AA. grew up upper middle class and I wish you had not started this thread. [/quote

+1. OP did you need some type of validation. I hate to break this to you, but my dad has a 6th grade education and really did walk 5 miles to school. In this region, there are several high income black people, but it is still the anomaly in this country. Most black people are poor.

I make a lot of money. So what? Did I need someone's validation? They can think what they want. They still judge me and my black sons the same way.

Anomaly ? Did you really say that? More importantly, do you really believe that ?
I guess you you didn't get past the 5th grade either if you think that us true.
Girl, you need to get out more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

Get off it. Just because black people are raised in a high socioeconomic class doesn't mean that they don't face pernicious racism. I'm white and I can't believe people actually think the playing field is level.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

I'm in AA woman married to a white male, and it's a total mindfuck to witness his white privilege. He's almost always treated with instant warmth and respect, and I get the exact opposite.

It's most obvious when we go to the dog park. Other white dog owners will barely acknowledge me, and often ignore me when I try to talk to them. Just today a woman walked right past me when I asked about her dog's breed. She walked right past me and started a conversation with my husband. The look on her face was priceless when I walked up, and she realized that we were together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in AA woman married to a white male, and it's a total mindfuck to witness his white privilege. He's almost always treated with instant warmth and respect, and I get the exact opposite.

It's most obvious when we go to the dog park. Other white dog owners will barely acknowledge me, and often ignore me when I try to talk to them. Just today a woman walked right past me when I asked about her dog's breed. She walked right past me and started a conversation with my husband. The look on her face was priceless when I walked up, and she realized that we were together.

Which dog park?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

+1

But guess what? Those same black kids and their families didn't have the same opportunities you, your mother, your father, your grandparents and great grandparents did. Keep in mind, slavery is not so far removed from this world we live in... it wasn't THAT long ago. And to prove its long lasting effects, take a look at the AA culture as a whole. Its not pretty, and let me tell you, the roots of it all are in slavery. If you think the playing field is level or even if you think it should be by now, you are not only sadly mistaken, but you are ignorant. But that's pretty obvious by your post.

-Signed, one of those black students who got into a great college with a 3.0 and average SAT's and is now VERY successful because of it.
Sorry if I bumped you. Actually, no I'm not.

PP. please tell me what very successful to you means. Reason I ask is that I did not get into a particular college while a black classmate did under affirmative action. I went to another school and found out it was the best school for me and I am now very successful as well. Actually probably more successful than if I attended the first college which had a different academic emphasis. Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything by missing out to an affirmative action student

Oh Bitter Betty is posting wants to make sure the dumbass colored folks know she is still Winning even tho affirmative action tried to hold her down . Boo Hoo Betty!

They know every time I see one of them. I need only give them the look. They know what the looks means. They will never be able to give that look

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

+1

But guess what? Those same black kids and their families didn't have the same opportunities you, your mother, your father, your grandparents and great grandparents did. Keep in mind, slavery is not so far removed from this world we live in... it wasn't THAT long ago. And to prove its long lasting effects, take a look at the AA culture as a whole. Its not pretty, and let me tell you, the roots of it all are in slavery. If you think the playing field is level or even if you think it should be by now, you are not only sadly mistaken, but you are ignorant. But that's pretty obvious by your post.

-Signed, one of those black students who got into a great college with a 3.0 and average SAT's and is now VERY successful because of it.
Sorry if I bumped you. Actually, no I'm not.

PP. please tell me what very successful to you means. Reason I ask is that I did not get into a particular college while a black classmate did under affirmative action. I went to another school and found out it was the best school for me and I am now very successful as well. Actually probably more successful than if I attended the first college which had a different academic emphasis. Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything by missing out to an affirmative action student

Oh Bitter Betty is posting wants to make sure the dumbass colored folks know she is still Winning even tho affirmative action tried to hold her down . Boo Hoo Betty!

They know every time I see one of them. I need only give them the look. They know what the looks means. They will never be able to give that look

What look is that? What are you one if the Witches of Eastwick?
What in the h***** ????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I know many AAs who spend way too much time explaining to people that both of their parents had PhDs and so on. It often comes off as defensive and insecure. Just cool it and ignore the dummies who stereotype, they will never be your friends.

+1. I am AA and both my parents DO have PhDs. Would NEVER feel a need to defend/explain my upbringing EITHER way. I let people assume whatever they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

+1

But guess what? Those same black kids and their families didn't have the same opportunities you, your mother, your father, your grandparents and great grandparents did. Keep in mind, slavery is not so far removed from this world we live in... it wasn't THAT long ago. And to prove its long lasting effects, take a look at the AA culture as a whole. Its not pretty, and let me tell you, the roots of it all are in slavery. If you think the playing field is level or even if you think it should be by now, you are not only sadly mistaken, but you are ignorant. But that's pretty obvious by your post.

-Signed, one of those black students who got into a great college with a 3.0 and average SAT's and is now VERY successful because of it.
Sorry if I bumped you. Actually, no I'm not.

PP. please tell me what very successful to you means. Reason I ask is that I did not get into a particular college while a black classmate did under affirmative action. I went to another school and found out it was the best school for me and I am now very successful as well. Actually probably more successful than if I attended the first college which had a different academic emphasis. Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything by missing out to an affirmative action student

How do you KNOW that your classmate was admitted because of "affirmative action?" Or did you just assume? Did you have access to that person's app file? Did you sit in on her interview? She got in and you did not - why can't it stop there? Why can't you accept the fact that, this one time, a AA student was more "qualified" based on what that school was looking for at the time?

I had a White friend like you - my college roomie. We applied to the same grad program - we had the same major and similar GPA's. I got in and she did not. She told eveyone who would listen that I benefitted from Affirmative Action and that was the only reason that I got a spot - she never said it to me though. Well I came to find out that my interview was MUCH stronger, that my reccs were stronger in that the Chair of my undergrad department (who was world renowed) wrote one my my letters and my undergrad research was stronger. So I was smart enough to mitigate any inherent disadvantages I had by taking advantage of the opportunities I did have. My roomie assumed that because she was White- the spot was hers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

+1

But guess what? Those same black kids and their families didn't have the same opportunities you, your mother, your father, your grandparents and great grandparents did. Keep in mind, slavery is not so far removed from this world we live in... it wasn't THAT long ago. And to prove its long lasting effects, take a look at the AA culture as a whole. Its not pretty, and let me tell you, the roots of it all are in slavery. If you think the playing field is level or even if you think it should be by now, you are not only sadly mistaken, but you are ignorant. But that's pretty obvious by your post.

-Signed, one of those black students who got into a great college with a 3.0 and average SAT's and is now VERY successful because of it. Sorry if I bumped you. Actually, no I'm not.

I agree. Another AA here who took full advantage of EVERY opportunity. Honestly, I played the system for EVERY advantage I could get and I am damn proud of it. Showed a lot of character, resolve and initiative. Sure, I had the same credentials as a lot of my White classmates but I had one distinctive feature they did not have that made me unique in that environment - my skin. I would be lying if I said that I did not use it when it was a benefit to me. I remember being selected to attend an undegrad conference by the Chair in my major. One of my classmates derided the choice by saying "you are just going as a token." I said "Maybe so, but I AM GOING." I networked my a$$ off and ended up getting a research position out of it. My point is that AA's should not have to defend taking advantage of opportunities they get because of their color. Others have been doing it for centuries without shame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

I hope the point of this post was that these rules/a.action were designed to help the kids in the inner cities without $ and opportunity, but they don't. Those kids still linger in the bad neighborhoods in bad public schools while the scholarships generally go to advantaged kids (of many ethnicities--not just AA). Seeing kids in some of the most elite areas of society taking the advantages designed to help the downtrodden is I think what irks some.

A boy in my sons HS class benefitted from numerous scholarships designed for AA students. He is a white kid born in South Africia. He legitimately checked the AA box on the form.

Actually, he didn't. He is South African American, not African-American.

Not the PP, but yes, this is legit. I have friends from Egypt who checked "African American" too. Maybe the box needs to be changed to black. Caucasian isn't an accurate description of white people either, so that's why "white" gets used more.

No, it's not legit. African-Americans references blacks whose ancestors were brought to the Americas as a result of the slave trade. Because there is an inability to trace one's root to the country of origin, the term African-American is used as a catchall to honor our slave ancestors.

This designation DOES NOT apply to those who are born in Africa and come to the US, because they *know* their country of origin.

The box doesn't need to be changed; folks just need to do a simple Google search and learn what it means.

IME, all races get the benefit of having ethnicities EXCEPT for black people. It's very easy for folks to understand Italian/Irish/German/Scottish/Swedish etc and recognize that they are different ethnicities of white people, but when you get to black people and AA/Nigerian/South African/Kenyan/etc, folks are scratching their heads. Amazing.

Not trying to be snarky, but I'm curious. So if someone if from Ethiopia and is a black person, he can't check "African American" because he wasn't brought as a slave? What other race box is there?

He could, but he'd be wrong. He's Ethiopian-American (and also black).

BTW, African-American is not a race.

So what box should he check?

Black. Why is that so hard to understand?

The kid is white but he should check the box for black? Wow...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

I am AA. grew up upper middle class and I wish you had not started this thread. [/quote

+1. OP did you need some type of validation. I hate to break this to you, but my dad has a 6th grade education and really did walk 5 miles to school. In this region, there are several high income black people, but it is still the anomaly in this country. Most black people are poor.

I make a lot of money. So what? Did I need someone's validation? They can think what they want. They still judge me and my black sons the same way.

Anomaly ? Did you really say that? More importantly, do you really believe that ?
I guess you you didn't get past the 5th grade either if you think that us true.
Girl, you need to get out more.

Yes, I said anomaly. Yes, I do believe that. I get out a ton. I work in the nonprofit field and study the data. All of my friends are doing well, but I realize that I live in a bubble. Get out of yours. I live in NW DC on the Gold Coast - I get it. But, I also know that black people are suffering and to ignore that, means that you aren't doing anything to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

I am AA. grew up upper middle class and I wish you had not started this thread. [/quote

+1. OP did you need some type of validation. I hate to break this to you, but my dad has a 6th grade education and really did walk 5 miles to school. In this region, there are several high income black people, but it is still the anomaly in this country. Most black people are poor.

I make a lot of money. So what? Did I need someone's validation? They can think what they want. They still judge me and my black sons the same way.

Anomaly ? Did you really say that? More importantly, do you really believe that ?
I guess you you didn't get past the 5th grade either if you think that us true.
Girl, you need to get out more.

Yes, I said anomaly. Yes, I do believe that. I get out a ton. I work in the nonprofit field and study the data. All of my friends are doing well, but I realize that I live in a bubble. Get out of yours. I live in NW DC on the Gold Coast - I get it. But, I also know that black people are suffering and to ignore that, means that you aren't doing anything to help.

Understanding that there a lot of poor people is not the same thing as saying rich black folk are rare.
I don't live in a bubble, I live IRL, not in some stats that don't tell the entire story.
I never meant this to be a pissing contest, but just to point out that saying rich black folk are an "anomaly" is a misstatement. Take it for what you will.