Attention white people

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Anonymous wrote:Not ALL successful black people are first generation successes. People stop assuming all of us fought to get out of the ghetto and had to walk through needled littered streets to our fatherless section 8 apartment every day of our youth. I hate when people want to know "my story." How did I manage to make it against such odds!! I actually grew up upper middle class, as did a lot of other brown people. Rant over.

I am AA. grew up upper middle class and I wish you had not started this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

Yea, the White women in my office are pretty clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

You mean white women? I mean, you do realize that white women are the MAIN beneficiaries of affirmative action, right?

Actually, that would be WWII ... that is the reason us white womanfolk ended up in the workforce... because you needed us.

Your post makes no sense (let alone discounts my assertion).

Maybe you should take a history class.

Here's a clue: being hired is not the only benefit of affirmative action. It also includes moving up the ranks.

I don't really think I should have to explain this too you if you are not educated enough on the subject.

Again, we are at the top because you need us there.. just like WWII.

That makes no sense at all. And who exactly is "we" and us"? Not sure why you have such a problem admitting that affirmative action benefits white women the most, but whatever.

*BTW, I think most folks who graduated high school realize that women entered the workforce as a result of men going to war (and dying as a result of the war). That still does not mean white women haven't benefited the most from affirmative action.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

I hope the point of this post was that these rules/a.action were designed to help the kids in the inner cities without $ and opportunity, but they don't. Those kids still linger in the bad neighborhoods in bad public schools while the scholarships generally go to advantaged kids (of many ethnicities--not just AA). Seeing kids in some of the most elite areas of society taking the advantages designed to help the downtrodden is I think what irks some.

A boy in my sons HS class benefitted from numerous scholarships designed for AA students. He is a white kid born in South Africia. He legitimately checked the AA box on the form.

Actually, he didn't. He is South African American, not African-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly it's 2013, why is race such an issue????? I grew up in an area where whites were a minority and all of my friends were different races. Why is it that only black people make a big deal of their race? Black mothers were NOT happy when I dated their sons, but Asian and hispanic mothers didn't care. Why is it only "interracial" when people date/marry blacks? My best friend is Asian and married to a white man. She would never call her marriage interracial and never thinks about it.

I wish this whole country would move past affirmative action and instead focus on socioeconomic status instead of race. Poor whites are just as held back as poor blacks/hispanics.

Oh, brother. White victimhood has to be the sorriest sack of shit to claim.

Why is race such an issue? Ask the inventors of the labels, not those subjected to its vile purposes.

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Anonymous wrote:As a black person, I dream of the day when black people stop making every topic about race, be it good or bad. It's annoying. Every black person feels judged because of their race. Stop bringing it up and it won't be about race.

Really? That's kind of like the game I played with my kids when they were babies. They covered their eyes but thought I could not see them. I do not use racism as an excuse for my failures and shortcomings - but I am not so naive to think that certain experiences in my life have not been impacted by race. I don't dwell on it and it does not consume me, but I am remided pretty frequently that I am AA.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

I hope the point of this post was that these rules/a.action were designed to help the kids in the inner cities without $ and opportunity, but they don't. Those kids still linger in the bad neighborhoods in bad public schools while the scholarships generally go to advantaged kids (of many ethnicities--not just AA). Seeing kids in some of the most elite areas of society taking the advantages designed to help the downtrodden is I think what irks some.

A boy in my sons HS class benefitted from numerous scholarships designed for AA students. He is a white kid born in South Africia. He legitimately checked the AA box on the form.

Actually, he didn't. He is South African American, not African-American.

Not the PP, but yes, this is legit. I have friends from Egypt who checked "African American" too. Maybe the box needs to be changed to black. Caucasian isn't an accurate description of white people either, so that's why "white" gets used more.

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I am not comparing. There is no comparing apples and oranges.

I think people assume the opposite about white people, OP. Which sucks also. Again, not a comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

You mean white women? I mean, you do realize that white women are the MAIN beneficiaries of affirmative action, right?

Actually, that would be WWII ... that is the reason us white womanfolk ended up in the workforce... because you needed us.

Your post makes no sense (let alone discounts my assertion).

Maybe you should take a history class.

Here's a clue: being hired is not the only benefit of affirmative action. It also includes moving up the ranks.

I don't really think I should have to explain this too you if you are not educated enough on the subject.

Again, we are at the top because you need us there.. just like WWII.

That makes no sense at all. And who exactly is "we" and us"? Not sure why you have such a problem admitting that affirmative action benefits white women the most, but whatever.

*BTW, I think most folks who graduated high school realize that women entered the workforce as a result of men going to war (and dying as a result of the war). That still does not mean white women haven't benefited the most from affirmative action.

and there is no denying our country benefited from women going to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

I hope the point of this post was that these rules/a.action were designed to help the kids in the inner cities without $ and opportunity, but they don't. Those kids still linger in the bad neighborhoods in bad public schools while the scholarships generally go to advantaged kids (of many ethnicities--not just AA). Seeing kids in some of the most elite areas of society taking the advantages designed to help the downtrodden is I think what irks some.

A boy in my sons HS class benefitted from numerous scholarships designed for AA students. He is a white kid born in South Africia. He legitimately checked the AA box on the form.

Actually, he didn't. He is South African American, not African-American.

Not the PP, but yes, this is legit. I have friends from Egypt who checked "African American" too. Maybe the box needs to be changed to black. Caucasian isn't an accurate description of white people either, so that's why "white" gets used more.

No, it's not legit. African-Americans references blacks whose ancestors were brought to the Americas as a result of the slave trade. Because there is an inability to trace one's root to the country of origin, the term African-American is used as a catchall to honor our slave ancestors.

This designation DOES NOT apply to those who are born in Africa and come to the US, because they *know* their country of origin.

The box doesn't need to be changed; folks just need to do a simple Google search and learn what it means.

IME, all races get the benefit of having ethnicities EXCEPT for black people. It's very easy for folks to understand Italian/Irish/German/Scottish/Swedish etc and recognize that they are different ethnicities of white people, but when you get to black people and AA/Nigerian/South African/Kenyan/etc, folks are scratching their heads. Amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

You mean white women? I mean, you do realize that white women are the MAIN beneficiaries of affirmative action, right?

Actually, that would be WWII ... that is the reason us white womanfolk ended up in the workforce... because you needed us.

Your post makes no sense (let alone discounts my assertion).

Maybe you should take a history class.

Here's a clue: being hired is not the only benefit of affirmative action. It also includes moving up the ranks.

I don't really think I should have to explain this too you if you are not educated enough on the subject.

Again, we are at the top because you need us there.. just like WWII.

That makes no sense at all. And who exactly is "we" and us"? Not sure why you have such a problem admitting that affirmative action benefits white women the most, but whatever.

*BTW, I think most folks who graduated high school realize that women entered the workforce as a result of men going to war (and dying as a result of the war). That still does not mean white women haven't benefited the most from affirmative action.

and there is no denying our country benefited from women going to work.

Who's arguing that the country hasn't benefited? You're confused. Please try to follow along with this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

You mean white women? I mean, you do realize that white women are the MAIN beneficiaries of affirmative action, right?

Actually, that would be WWII ... that is the reason us white womanfolk ended up in the workforce... because you needed us.

Your post makes no sense (let alone discounts my assertion).

Maybe you should take a history class.

Here's a clue: being hired is not the only benefit of affirmative action. It also includes moving up the ranks.

I don't really think I should have to explain this too you if you are not educated enough on the subject.

Again, we are at the top because you need us there.. just like WWII.

That makes no sense at all. And who exactly is "we" and us"? Not sure why you have such a problem admitting that affirmative action benefits white women the most, but whatever.

*BTW, I think most folks who graduated high school realize that women entered the workforce as a result of men going to war (and dying as a result of the war). That still does not mean white women haven't benefited the most from affirmative action.

and there is no denying our country benefited from women going to work.

Who's arguing that the country hasn't benefited? You're confused. Please try to follow along with this thread.

Oh, I am following ... you just don't understand that women are in the workforce because MEN could NOT do the job.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here I have seriously never asked anyone "their story".

I feel like more often than not it's black people telling me about racism than me actually seeing racism in real life. One of my close black friends recently said to me "I think I didn't get the job because I'm black." umm pretty sure he was the only one thinking about the color of his skin in the interview.

spoken as a white person who really has no fucking clue

You should see some of our affirmative action hires

You mean white women? I mean, you do realize that white women are the MAIN beneficiaries of affirmative action, right?

Not anymore. I deal with HR. Latinos, African Americans--if they happen to be a woman too it's called a 'double deal'

So your office equals the country? Gotcha.

Re college admissions. Unless it is a stem or business program, it is easier for men to get into college than women, of all races.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

I hope the point of this post was that these rules/a.action were designed to help the kids in the inner cities without $ and opportunity, but they don't. Those kids still linger in the bad neighborhoods in bad public schools while the scholarships generally go to advantaged kids (of many ethnicities--not just AA). Seeing kids in some of the most elite areas of society taking the advantages designed to help the downtrodden is I think what irks some.

A boy in my sons HS class benefitted from numerous scholarships designed for AA students. He is a white kid born in South Africia. He legitimately checked the AA box on the form.

Actually, he didn't. He is South African American, not African-American.

Not the PP, but yes, this is legit. I have friends from Egypt who checked "African American" too. Maybe the box needs to be changed to black. Caucasian isn't an accurate description of white people either, so that's why "white" gets used more.

No, it's not legit. African-Americans references blacks whose ancestors were brought to the Americas as a result of the slave trade. Because there is an inability to trace one's root to the country of origin, the term African-American is used as a catchall to honor our slave ancestors.

This designation DOES NOT apply to those who are born in Africa and come to the US, because they *know* their country of origin.

The box doesn't need to be changed; folks just need to do a simple Google search and learn what it means.

IME, all races get the benefit of having ethnicities EXCEPT for black people. It's very easy for folks to understand Italian/Irish/German/Scottish/Swedish etc and recognize that they are different ethnicities of white people, but when you get to black people and AA/Nigerian/South African/Kenyan/etc, folks are scratching their heads. Amazing.

Not trying to be snarky, but I'm curious. So if someone if from Ethiopia and is a black person, he can't check "African American" because he wasn't brought as a slave? What other race box is there?

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya!! Try telling that to a college admissions board.

It was very frustrating when the black kids (with same privileges and upbringing) were able to get into colleges with only a 3.0 grade pt average and average SATs while those of us with 4.0+ did not.

maybe you should have tried some community service or philanthropic work to actually differentiate yourself from everyone else. Sure is frustrating when a sense of entitlement doesn't doesn't actually work in your favor.