s/o straight men sleeping with men

[Anonymous]

Does no one on here find it the least bit odd that you would be telling the woman you're trying to stick your penis in that you in fact gay because you touched your buddy's dick with your hand in the ninth grade?

Here's how that conversation goes

"Sweetie, before I bang your ham wallet with my meat bat, I'd like to tell you that I'm gay."

"You're gay?"

"Yes, because the people on DCUM forums said that anyone who at any time did anything sexual with a man, they are totally and completely gay and into men."

"But you are trying to have sex with me - a woman. And you had a girlfriend before me and one before that?"

"Doesn't matter, I'm gay. No bringt those titties over here!"

[Anonymous]

^^ That'll teach you to buy a philosophy hook, line and sinker!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does no one on here find it the least bit odd that you would be telling the woman you're trying to stick your penis in that you in fact gay because you touched your buddy's dick with your hand in the ninth grade?

Here's how that conversation goes

"Sweetie, before I bang your ham wallet with my meat bat, I'd like to tell you that I'm gay."

"You're gay?"

"Yes, because the people on DCUM forums said that anyone who at any time did anything sexual with a man, they are totally and completely gay and into men."

"But you are trying to have sex with me - a woman. And you had a girlfriend before me and one before that?"

"Doesn't matter, I'm gay. No bringt those titties over here!"

You actually wrote a script. Really! Sheesh! Desperate gay-denial guy is back everyone! Do us a favor. Keep your day job. Your script is beyond silly. We'd prefer real life. While sweating over the big reveal, gay DH gets DW liquored up, turns to her and says, back in the day I had no problem with sword fighting with meat bats. DW responds WTF!... Silence. DH picking his head off the floor is just glad that gun control is an issue right now and there's no loaded weapons in the house. DH remembers to next time not be so stupid and tell DW that he's gay. Dear ex-wife, that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does no one on here find it the least bit odd that you would be telling the woman you're trying to stick your penis in that you in fact gay because you touched your buddy's dick with your hand in the ninth grade?

Here's how that conversation goes

"Sweetie, before I bang your ham wallet with my meat bat, I'd like to tell you that I'm gay."

"You're gay?"

"Yes, because the people on DCUM forums said that anyone who at any time did anything sexual with a man, they are totally and completely gay and into men."

"But you are trying to have sex with me - a woman. And you had a girlfriend before me and one before that?"

"Doesn't matter, I'm gay. No bringt those titties over here!"

You actually wrote a script. Really! Sheesh! Desperate gay-denial guy is back everyone! Do us a favor. Keep your day job. Your script is beyond silly. We'd prefer real life. While sweating over the big reveal, gay DH gets DW liquored up, turns to her and says, back in the day I had no problem with sword fighting with meat bats. DW responds WTF!... Silence. DH picking his head off the floor is just glad that gun control is an issue right now and there's no loaded weapons in the house. DH remembers to next time not be so stupid and tell DW that he's gay. Dear ex-wife, that is.

If I had the slightest doubt whether I should tell my wife about my same sex experience you've put the issue to bed for me. I do have loaded guns in my house.

Thanks buddy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

People are arguing with being called gay because they currently do not fantasize about other men, love the scent and feel of a woman, can't wait to bone their wives and do not secretly wish she was some dude - they don't look at other men and think they're hot, but can fully appreciate a sexy woman walking down the sidewalk with her ass swaying slightly and her tits bouncing. That's why they're arguing about it. Clearly they have no problem with it if they've tried it and they wouldn't have a problem calling themselves gay if they wanted to be with men in mind and body. But they don't. How is that difficult to understand?

Who the f**k talks like this? Straight men don't write like romance novels. This stuff is pure denial! "The scent and feel of a woman". Bullsh*t.

[Anonymous]

^^ Hey I don't usually encourage betraying one's wife, but if you'll literally concerned about your safety...

Ironic though- you're gay and you're a bitch. Glad you're not my DH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

People are arguing with being called gay because they currently do not fantasize about other men, love the scent and feel of a woman, can't wait to bone their wives and do not secretly wish she was some dude - they don't look at other men and think they're hot, but can fully appreciate a sexy woman walking down the sidewalk with her ass swaying slightly and her tits bouncing. That's why they're arguing about it. Clearly they have no problem with it if they've tried it and they wouldn't have a problem calling themselves gay if they wanted to be with men in mind and body. But they don't. How is that difficult to understand?

Who the f**k talks like this? Straight men don't write like romance novels. This stuff is pure denial! "The scent and feel of a woman". Bullsh*t.

+1. That whole speil wreaked of gay. I'm picturing him in his skinny jeans while he's at the type writer. Full beard and plaid shirt all you want dude- you're gay!

[Anonymous]

I just found "situational sexual behavior" on Wiki.

It lists prison, boarding school and the military as deployments.

So maybe these guys really aren't gay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just found "situational sexual behavior" on Wiki.

It lists prison, boarding school and the military as deployments.

So maybe these guys really aren't gay.

Don't tell that to the nuts who insist that so much as touching another guy's dick means one is gay even if it happened years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just found "situational sexual behavior" on Wiki.

It lists prison, boarding school and the military as deployments.

So maybe these guys really aren't gay.

Don't tell that to the nuts who insist that so much as touching another guy's dick means one is gay even if it happened years ago.

What a strange phrase to come out of your mouth, PP. But, not really. You seem to have a keen understanding of nuts in the mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just found "situational sexual behavior" on Wiki.

It lists prison, boarding school and the military as deployments.

So maybe these guys really aren't gay.

In these scenarios, the men don't have access to the opposite sex. I think they get a pass (except the boarding school unless the school is in some remote part of the world where the boys are maintained as virtual prisoners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Showed this thread to my proudly openly gay brother.

He said it was odd that the posters who are calling gay actually seem more reasonable about it. He said that the people who are going out of their way to insist that certain conduct was not gay seem to be in denial – like they are afraid of the label. He said that these people seem to be buying into the negative connotation more than the seemingly “close minded” people who only see gay and straight.

He also said that he sure he knows some of your DHs.

That's interesting. I showed it to my gay BIL and he says a few homosexual experiences aren't enough to make one 'gay'. He said that if people have attraction to only one sex, that's homosexual. If they're attracted to both sexes, they're bisexual. He also said it's not unusual for a person to be bisexual at one time and then change to either gay or heterosexual. Preferences can change.

I don't think anyone making the non-gay argument is a bigot or has problems with the 'label', it's just not the correct label. My kids have special needs and I feel this issue keenly. I have no problem with people knowing what my kids' 'labels' because that's how their disabilities are best described. There are overlapping symptoms between different 'labels' (think ADHD and ASD) that may lead a person to think my child has a different label than the one diagnoses but that would be incorrect. In the same way, homosexual experience doesn't necessarily indicate sexual preference. "Gay" describes someone's preference, not their experience.

I am the PP you are responding to. I have a DC with SN, so I somewhat understand your analogy and I appreciate your measured reasoned response. But maybe you could help me with one piece of what you said because this thread has confused me. We hear all the time that LGBT are "born" that way - that is who they are. I have internalized that concept and whenever I had to defend my brother or advocated for friends, that was my lead arguement - that is who they are - it is a basic part of their identity and personality. My brother thinks that also. In this thread, I am reading words like "preference" which implies choice. That is why I am struggling with the whole concept. I hope no one jumps on me because I am really trying to understand. Isn't the concept that someone is "born" gay (and that is their being) in conflict with saying that "although I chose to have a few homosexual experiences, I am not gay?" Seems like it is a nature/nurture type dicussion. Hope I did not offend.

OK, PP, this is a serious question and deserves a serious answer. The trolls will flame away, but here goes:

1) Most psychologists believe that there is a spectrum of sexual preference -- some people are 100% attracted to members of the same sex, some 100% attracted only to members of the opposite sex, and some are in-between. Figure a scale of 1-5, 1 being "completely gay," 5 being "completely straight," 3 being "completely bi," and 2 being prefer same-sex but sometimes attracted to opposite sex, and 4 being prefer opposite sex but sometimes attracted to same sex.

2) Most psychologists/biologists also believe that where you are on this spectrum is either genetic or genetic plus very early experiences (infancy, early childhood), such that you can't "choose" to move around on that spectrum.

3) So if you're at 1 or 5, that's just where you are. You're gay or you're straight.

4) But if you're at 2,3 or 4, you might say"I'm bi," or you migght say you're gay or straight but have occasionally experimented. Or you might say that you think these are stupid labels, becuse what you end up doing, who you end up sleeping with, and who you marry may be pretty random, just as it is for heterosexuals (why did you marry person A and not B? well, because you met him at the right time, you both love bowling, you had mutual friends, you share a sense of humor, you happen to like tall blue eyed people, whatever). So if you're in the middle of the spectrum, you might end up falling in love with a member of the same sex and you migth end up falling in love with a mmeber of the opposite sex.

5) Whether you will then be monogamous or not is a completely different issue.... some gay men are monogamous, and some heterosexual men cheat. Ditto for women.

make sense?


[pls ignore trolls who will be sure to post nasty responses]

[Anonymous]

This may be the weirdest threat I have ever read. How many of you are actually DC parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Showed this thread to my proudly openly gay brother.

He said it was odd that the posters who are calling gay actually seem more reasonable about it. He said that the people who are going out of their way to insist that certain conduct was not gay seem to be in denial – like they are afraid of the label. He said that these people seem to be buying into the negative connotation more than the seemingly “close minded” people who only see gay and straight.

He also said that he sure he knows some of your DHs.

That's interesting. I showed it to my gay BIL and he says a few homosexual experiences aren't enough to make one 'gay'. He said that if people have attraction to only one sex, that's homosexual. If they're attracted to both sexes, they're bisexual. He also said it's not unusual for a person to be bisexual at one time and then change to either gay or heterosexual. Preferences can change.

I don't think anyone making the non-gay argument is a bigot or has problems with the 'label', it's just not the correct label. My kids have special needs and I feel this issue keenly. I have no problem with people knowing what my kids' 'labels' because that's how their disabilities are best described. There are overlapping symptoms between different 'labels' (think ADHD and ASD) that may lead a person to think my child has a different label than the one diagnoses but that would be incorrect. In the same way, homosexual experience doesn't necessarily indicate sexual preference. "Gay" describes someone's preference, not their experience.

I am the PP you are responding to. I have a DC with SN, so I somewhat understand your analogy and I appreciate your measured reasoned response. But maybe you could help me with one piece of what you said because this thread has confused me. We hear all the time that LGBT are "born" that way - that is who they are. I have internalized that concept and whenever I had to defend my brother or advocated for friends, that was my lead arguement - that is who they are - it is a basic part of their identity and personality. My brother thinks that also. In this thread, I am reading words like "preference" which implies choice. That is why I am struggling with the whole concept. I hope no one jumps on me because I am really trying to understand. Isn't the concept that someone is "born" gay (and that is their being) in conflict with saying that "although I chose to have a few homosexual experiences, I am not gay?" Seems like it is a nature/nurture type dicussion. Hope I did not offend.

OK, PP, this is a serious question and deserves a serious answer. The trolls will flame away, but here goes:

1) Most psychologists believe that there is a spectrum of sexual preference -- some people are 100% attracted to members of the same sex, some 100% attracted only to members of the opposite sex, and some are in-between. Figure a scale of 1-5, 1 being "completely gay," 5 being "completely straight," 3 being "completely bi," and 2 being prefer same-sex but sometimes attracted to opposite sex, and 4 being prefer opposite sex but sometimes attracted to same sex.

2) Most psychologists/biologists also believe that where you are on this spectrum is either genetic or genetic plus very early experiences (infancy, early childhood), such that you can't "choose" to move around on that spectrum.

3) So if you're at 1 or 5, that's just where you are. You're gay or you're straight.

4) But if you're at 2,3 or 4, you might say"I'm bi," or you migght say you're gay or straight but have occasionally experimented. Or you might say that you think these are stupid labels, becuse what you end up doing, who you end up sleeping with, and who you marry may be pretty random, just as it is for heterosexuals (why did you marry person A and not B? well, because you met him at the right time, you both love bowling, you had mutual friends, you share a sense of humor, you happen to like tall blue eyed people, whatever). So if you're in the middle of the spectrum, you might end up falling in love with a member of the same sex and you migth end up falling in love with a mmeber of the opposite sex.

5) Whether you will then be monogamous or not is a completely different issue.... some gay men are monogamous, and some heterosexual men cheat. Ditto for women.

make sense?


[pls ignore trolls who will be sure to post nasty responses]

Where the hell is the question, PP? Sheesh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This may be the weirdest threat I have ever read. How many of you are actually DC parents?

I, for one, am a parent and will be showing this thread to my teens. They need to know that their are guys out there who clearly swing both ways or have swung both ways or any combo thereof and are lying to their women that their straight. This is why when someone donates blood they have to ask the man if he has ever had sexual contact with another man. They don't ask if their "gay". They ask if they're MSM - a man who sleeps with another man but doesn't identify as gay. These men are having sex with women and many are HIV positive. Not a laughing matter at all. Scary really!