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| Not all Asian students at TJ is foreign student. If you have issue with foreign students attend TJ, bring this up to FCPS school boards. To generalize that Asian students are cheating and tiger moms are gaming the system to get their kids into TJ is wrong. I believe most of Asian students are born here in the United States. They are as American as any white or AA. |
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To help clear up the essay issue (btw, my DD - white, GT Center - did get in to TJ, so I've got no agenda or sour grapes)..
The two essays the students take on entrance exam day are unique, in that one has a MORAL component and the other one TJ tells the kids they will grade looking at technique, grammar, etc. From what I hear from teachers and our GT counselor, TJ takes the MORAL essay very seriously. Even though they say there's no right answer, the feeling among teachers is that if a student gives off the wrong vibe in that essay, it doesn't matter if it is written like a Harvard-ready thesis paper, the kid will get a low score. This year the question was: you are a scientist who worked on a team discovering a cure for cancer, and you discover the cure while you are alone in the lab. Do you take the credit by yourself or do you tell your team and take the credit as a team. |
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Yes, agreed. It is wrong. But that does not make it false. |
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Disagree. Now that Asian Americans are thrashing the rest of America in the classroom we cry cheating and want to change the rules of the game we set at the outset
Recall, the game of cricket introduced by Britain to her colonies. For a while Britain stood over her opponents; but when the colonies started to beat Britain at her game, cricket; the British introduced a soothing relief or antidote -- the concept of sportsmanship. |
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anyone have any data/reports on the number of tj admits from each of the fpcs middle schools this year? I heard carson had 90+ this year, compared with the usual 60-62 admits. How many did longfellow, kilmer, rocky run, etc... send this year?
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Really has nothing to do with cricket. "We" change the rules whenever the voters/school board/administrators see fit to do so, which is regularly. You can disagree, but that is not what the evidence points to. Anytime the stakes are raised, the probability of cheating is higher. |
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To ignore/deny cheating is to condone/reward it. Then it will grow, and it has.
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/education/1656.html "How pervasive is cheating? Students tell me it’s more pervasive than adults know. It is a huge challenge for teachers and principals—not just here but at every school. Given our student population, cheating techniques can be very sophisticated. We’ve tried to create an antidote via a robust ethics program. We bolster students offended by cheating and strengthen everyone’s will to resist it. We hold up ethical models and highlight positive examples. When I got here, the first group of students to visit me were student leaders offended by the pervasiveness of cheating. They had drafted an honor code. The school eventually adopted that honor code, written by students. The student government is now investigating the creation of an honor council to help enforce and strengthen the honor code." Previous TJHSST principal |
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Thanks for allowing me to disagree. And I do. By and large, in this area, Asian-Americans have not gotten to the top of the educational pyramid by cheating. My own encounters and experience suggest Asian-Americans do score higher than all other Americans on the national, regional and state educational measures at all levels...even with removal of cheating as a confounder for all groups of students. |
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| It has everything to do with "cricket" and the emergence of China as a global economic power...very disruptive indeed. Let's change the rules to reverse the trends and stay on top. Human behaviour over the years is not terribly complicated. Read history. |
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In this age of information and tests it's not difficult to find out which group tops the educational heap using this metric. What does a nice Asian kid (or black or white or hispanic kid) who is not bright have to do with anything? We are talking about "clinical" facts that have nothing to do with nice, bad or any other adjective you wish to conjure. Top of the educational pyramid ... look at educational test results, look at the racial, ethnic proportion of kids at MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League, Stanford, Intel Science Winners, MathCount Winners, USAMO winners, any Science bowl winners, NMSF, AP scholars, Blair magnet ... even TJ if you wish. I'm sure you would think the top of educational pyramid belongs to tenured university professors many of whom get tenure because they belong to a club (male and white). Asian-Americans have not surpassed other groups in America (K through 12) largely because of cheating. I would hypothesize that other groups may cheat more to keep up  An interesting testable question worthy of analysis in light of your beliefs.
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"At their May 12 meeting, the School Board recognized Dr. Ju-Ho Lee, Minister of Education, Science, and Technology from the Republic of Korea."
Why? Was the Minister in town visiting the colonies? |
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| You are "Previous TJHSST principal"? Do you really believe Asian-American students cheaped their way to get into TJ? This forum is all about more Asian students got into TJ. Some people in this forum believe Asian students cheaped their way to get into TJ. If you were "Previous TJHSST principal" and believed that cheaping was happen for TJ admission, did you do something about it? or were you just protected your job? |
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Are you a TJ student? |