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[quote=Anonymous][quote]When you generalize like this, what effect does it have on the nice Asian kid who is not that bright? More pressure? 
And how did you do that "removal of cheating as a confounder"? 
By "top of the educational pyramid" do you mean admitted to TJ? 
I would think the "top of the educational pyramid" is tenured university professors, and my experience suggests Asian-Americans are not over-represented there. [/quote]

In this age of information and tests it's not difficult to find out which group tops the educational heap using this metric.

What does a nice Asian kid (or black or white or hispanic kid) who is not bright have to do with anything?  We are talking about "clinical" facts that have nothing to do with nice, bad or any other adjective you wish to conjure.

Top of the educational pyramid ... look at educational test results, look at the racial, ethnic proportion of kids at MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League, Stanford, Intel Science Winners, MathCount Winners, USAMO winners, any Science bowl winners, NMSF, AP scholars, Blair magnet ... even TJ if you wish.

I'm sure you would think the top of educational pyramid belongs to tenured university professors many of whom get tenure because they belong to a club (male and white).

Asian-Americans have not surpassed other groups in America (K through 12) largely because of cheating.  I would hypothesize that other groups may cheat more to keep up :D  An interesting testable question worthy of analysis in light of your beliefs.
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