Disruptive kids. Who is at fault the teacher or the kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kid. Always the kid.

A child is not their actions. Never the kid. Look at parents, teacher, school and classroom climate, and society. All behaviors are from unmet needs and/or underdeveloped social and emotional competencies.

AGREE!

[Anonymous]

Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

The PARENTS! Always the parents. If there is consistent disruptive behavior that has nothing to do with having a disability, then something is going on at home. ALWAYS!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

The PARENTS! Always the parents. If there is consistent disruptive behavior that has nothing to do with having a disability, then something is going on at home. ALWAYS!!!

Or there is nothing going on at home. No rules, no discipline. Kids who never hear “no”

[Anonymous]

hands down, the parents. as a parent myself and not a teacher, i am convinced many parents are not teaching their kids how to be empathetic, community oriented people.

[Anonymous]

The parents’ fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

The PARENTS! Always the parents. If there is consistent disruptive behavior that has nothing to do with having a disability, then something is going on at home. ALWAYS!!!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:hands down, the parents. as a parent myself and not a teacher, i am convinced many parents are not teaching their kids how to be empathetic, community oriented people.

Yeah, I feel this too.

There are also some parents who just have no idea what they are doing and their kid will have a problem and the parent will do the exact WRONG thing to try and solve it, and you just have to stand their and smile and not tell them how dumb they are being. The biggest thing for me is the parents who never criticize their kid's behavior no matter how bad it is, and then give into everything the kid wants. You see these kids throwing giant tantrums, saying rude, selfish things to peers and adults alike, and the parents just stand there either oblivious or embarrassed but no ability to step in and just say "hey, cut it out." I mean, dont' scream at your kid or make a huge thing of it, but if one of my kids is rude or unkind within my eyesight or hearing (which absolutely happens because no kid is perfect), I correct in a firm but pleasant way. It's not that hard. My kids are also fine with it because they are used to being corrected on questionable behavior so when we do it, they don't freak out.

Some parents will just stand there doing nothing while their child is a nightmare and it makes me want to scold the parents. And they don't get that not only are they making the school environment worse for everyone, but it will also impact their kids socially as they get older and no one wants to invite them over or the other kids don't want to deal with their BS.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes a kid is disruptive because the class is not challenging enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

The PARENTS! Always the parents. If there is consistent disruptive behavior that has nothing to do with having a disability, then something is going on at home. ALWAYS!!!

Or there is nothing going on at home. No rules, no discipline. Kids who never hear “no”

Yes. Adding allowed to talk over everyone else at home, no manners instruction and manic family schedules and I see it every day in my classroom. Monday is the worst day in terms of dysregulation for many kids as they have been at home.

[Anonymous]

What a scary thread. Says a lot about private school parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it's not the kid. Many times it's other people's kid that sets off the kid. Many times it's admin who blame the teachers instead of the kid. They fire the teachers for not fraud g the kids data to make them look good.

The PARENTS! Always the parents. If there is consistent disruptive behavior that has nothing to do with having a disability, then something is going on at home. ALWAYS!!!

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+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was in school, disruptive kids were not much of an issue because the school and the teachers were extremely good at managing them. If there was a disruption, the teacher could remove the child quickly from the classroom and the lesson would continue.

My experience with private schools nowadays, through my child, has been very different. I see several disruptive kids who are not being effectively managed by the teacher, and those kids are eventually expelled.

So my question is: which approach is better overall? To me, there seems to be a trend toward shifting responsibility for classroom management from the teacher to the students. What do you think?

You idiot. Not the teacher's fault. It is the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was in school, disruptive kids were not much of an issue because the school and the teachers were extremely good at managing them. If there was a disruption, the teacher could remove the child quickly from the classroom and the lesson would continue.

My experience with private schools nowadays, through my child, has been very different. I see several disruptive kids who are not being effectively managed by the teacher, and those kids are eventually expelled.

So my question is: which approach is better overall? To me, there seems to be a trend toward shifting responsibility for classroom management from the teacher to the students. What do you think?

You idiot. Not the teacher's fault. It is the parents.

Agree. It is always the parents.

[Anonymous]

They make the nutty kids stay in a class to be sure that all the other kids are disturbed and hindered from learning. Then they can easily blame and disrupt teachers careers to take the fall, even though most aren't not paid enough to put up with this type of thing.