Liam

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


This.

Also no hanging outside of sensitive places like hospitals (eg the family bringing their daughter to the ER)

Also think how inefficient and expensive this is, not to mention cruel, to arrest and detain people in one state, transfer them to a detention facility in another state before a hearing, and then release them!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


This.

Also no hanging outside of sensitive places like hospitals (eg the family bringing their daughter to the ER)

Also think how inefficient and expensive this is, not to mention cruel, to arrest and detain people in one state, transfer them to a detention facility in another state before a hearing, and then release them!


DP and actually hold agents accountable for excessive violence. A guy was brought into a hospital in MM with skull fractures with ICE claiming he purposely ran into a wall (BS). The cruelty and lack of basic ethics should be insane regardless of political party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


1. Agree
2. Maybe
3. Yes, but will you support the construction or expansion of such facilities in your probably urban/suburban area so that the detainees can be close to their families and legal support? Because many blue states are trying to keep these facilities out. Then the detainees end up in places like Alabama or Lumpkin, GA in the middle of nowhere with little opportunity for legal support. So the libs can pat themselves on the back how they are such good people for not allowing these to be built in their county or state.
4. Agree

Furthermore, if all of these are achieved, there will still be some sad situations. Are you gonna be OK with that or should we never deport any noncriminal because it makes people sad?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


Lol typical liberal bs, everyone gets a bonus. There is nothing wrong with performance based bonus and with 14 million illegal aliens in the us 8 a week is not fast enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


Lol typical liberal bs, everyone gets a bonus. There is nothing wrong with performance based bonus and with 14 million illegal aliens in the us 8 a week is not fast enough.


As it turns out, there IS something wrong with performance bonuses in this case. It leads to ICE agents brutality, the violation of the Constitution, and sometimes even the death of American citizens. Performance bonuses may be great for the sales team or your small business. But it is all wrong here!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


Lol typical liberal bs, everyone gets a bonus. There is nothing wrong with performance based bonus and with 14 million illegal aliens in the us 8 a week is not fast enough.


As it turns out, there IS something wrong with performance bonuses in this case. It leads to ICE agents brutality, the violation of the Constitution, and sometimes even the death of American citizens. Performance bonuses may be great for the sales team or your small business. But it is all wrong here!


+1

Bonuses is how you have ICE agents sitting outside hospitals waiting to swarm anyone heading in for medical care. Bonuses is how you have ICE agents try to enter a foreign consulate because they saw people with brown skin going in/out, upsetting an entire country. Bonuses encourage profiling people based in skin color. Bonuses encourage excessive use of force to gain arrests (and I notice the PP doesn't care one iota about excessive use of force), causing international protests of our country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


Lol typical liberal bs, everyone gets a bonus. There is nothing wrong with performance based bonus and with 14 million illegal aliens in the us 8 a week is not fast enough.


Focus on the violent ones (only five percent per conservative CATO institute who actually called our DHS for lying), provide a path to citizenship for the nonviolent like we used to in the past. Sudden removal of hard working immigrants actually harms US businesses based on actual data. I know MAGA care more about propaganda vibes over data but whatever.
Anonymous
Liam’s hat should become the new protest symbol.
Anonymous
No path to citizenship. Go home, apply, and wait.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No path to citizenship. Go home, apply, and wait.



Open it up and make it easier for people to do that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Liam’s hat should become the new protest symbol.


Anonymous
A friend just texted me that Liam and his dad are on a plane home- can anyone see it in the news?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dang, that ruling was SCATHING.


Thank goodness for true Americans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the judge's ruling:


"The case has its genesis in the ill-conceived and incompetently-implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas, apparently even if it requires traumatizing children."


I wonder if the judge has evidence of these daily deportation quotas? I have heard it rumored but don't know if there is proof? Someone familiar with ICE says that agents need to capture 8 bodies per day on average, in order to get their $10,000 bonus each year.


"Ultimately, Petitioners may, because of the arcane United States immigration system, return to their home country, involuntarily or by self deportation. But that result should occur through a more orderly and human process than currently in place."


Thank you judge, for saying this.


Ok, but….
What does this more orderly and human process look like?


First of all, no more quotas or bonuses for agents.
Secondly, agents need to only detain people when they have a judicial warrant.
Keep detainees close to their homes and families.
Preserve the consitutional rights of all people (whether citizen or not) and agents need to be investigated and punished if they violate the constitution, same as every other law enforcement officer.


Lol typical liberal bs, everyone gets a bonus. There is nothing wrong with performance based bonus and with 14 million illegal aliens in the us 8 a week is not fast enough.


Focus on the violent ones (only five percent per conservative CATO institute who actually called our DHS for lying), provide a path to citizenship for the nonviolent like we used to in the past. Sudden removal of hard working immigrants actually harms US businesses based on actual data. I know MAGA care more about propaganda vibes over data but whatever.


This. MAGA BS is tiresome and gross.
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