Bridgerton Season 4

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished episode 4. Goddamn. This is way better than Season 2 or 3. It might even top Season 1. The scene with Benedict and Sophie in the stairwell was so hot…he licked two of his fingers….omg! I need a cold shower. Of course it was totally ruined with the whole “Be my mistress” line.

Violet was a trip with the whole inviting Lady Danbury’s brother over for tea.

That may have been the hottest scene of the entire series. Damn, Luke Thompson! The smirk, that neck, those fingers.

Doesn’t it make Colin and Penelope seem totally cringey and ridiculous?!

No. Sorry. I think Colin is cuter.

and Pen’s breasts had a staring role.

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Penelope is too big for Colin, sorry. It’s so cringe!

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

Who is Nelson and who is Lady Hamilton? This is a thread about Bridgerton.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

Who is Nelson and who is Lady Hamilton? This is a thread about Bridgerton.

A) You should definitely know who Nelson is (Battle of Trafalgar?). B) Lady Hamilton was a famous mistress who died right around the time Bridgerton is set, so it is relevant for "what kind of life would a mistress in the Regency era have."

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Anonymous wrote:Penelope is too big for Colin, sorry. It’s so cringe!

IRL that's not true -- Luke Newton is 6' and when he and Nicola Coughlan did promotional appearances I think they looked well suited to each other. But on screen I agree she overpowered him. I think it has to do with how photogenic Nicola is on camera, and with this round face and lots of hair and the way the costumes tend to display her boobs in a really prominent way -- Newton just kind of faded into the background in their love scenes. I don't think she's literally too big for him, I just think it would have been better to pair her with someone who would look more balanced on screen, especially in close up. Like the guy who plays Will Mondrich (Marins Inhangbe) would have been great.

The problem was that they were going by the books, and Pen is supposed to be with Colin, who was already cast and they prioritized casting the Bridgerton men to look like brothers more than to look good with their partners. They got lucky with Jonathan Bailey, who I thought looked perfect with Simone Ashley -- they are both long and lean and have these angular faces that were very complimentary. But Colin and Penelope weren't as good of a visual match, they should have thought about that when casting Colin.

This is also going to be problem if they ever do the Gregory season, which would be season 8 if they matched the books. Because the kid playing Gregory has even less presence on screen than Luke Newton and if they cast really great actresses for his love triangle, he's going to look so lost.

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Anonymous wrote:Penelope is too big for Colin, sorry. It’s so cringe!

IRL that's not true -- Luke Newton is 6' and when he and Nicola Coughlan did promotional appearances I think they looked well suited to each other. But on screen I agree she overpowered him. I think it has to do with how photogenic Nicola is on camera, and with this round face and lots of hair and the way the costumes tend to display her boobs in a really prominent way -- Newton just kind of faded into the background in their love scenes. I don't think she's literally too big for him, I just think it would have been better to pair her with someone who would look more balanced on screen, especially in close up. Like the guy who plays Will Mondrich (Marins Inhangbe) would have been great.

The problem was that they were going by the books, and Pen is supposed to be with Colin, who was already cast and they prioritized casting the Bridgerton men to look like brothers more than to look good with their partners. They got lucky with Jonathan Bailey, who I thought looked perfect with Simone Ashley -- they are both long and lean and have these angular faces that were very complimentary. But Colin and Penelope weren't as good of a visual match, they should have thought about that when casting Colin.

This is also going to be problem if they ever do the Gregory season, which would be season 8 if they matched the books. Because the kid playing Gregory has even less presence on screen than Luke Newton and if they cast really great actresses for his love triangle, he's going to look so lost.

Colin just didn't come across as appealing in his season, especially since he spent half the season being sulky and then making things worse. It just wasn't attractive and you felt bad for Penelope. Coughlan is a more charismatic actress.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

Who is Nelson and who is Lady Hamilton? This is a thread about Bridgerton.

A) You should definitely know who Nelson is (Battle of Trafalgar?). B) Lady Hamilton was a famous mistress who died right around the time Bridgerton is set, so it is relevant for "what kind of life would a mistress in the Regency era have."

DP and I know who Admiral Nelson is but I actually would not expect that to be common knowledge -- he is a famous military leader from the Napoleonic wars, it's not like he was a king or president or something. It would be like expecting someone from France to know who Henry Knox is, which I would not.

Also I'd never heard of Lady Hamilton before, I'd relegate her to "trivia." Yes, interesting in terms of Bridgerton but you could have nicely provided the background instead of assuming everyone knows about this fairly obscure historical figure you are talking about like she's a Real Housewife.

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Anonymous wrote:Penelope is too big for Colin, sorry. It’s so cringe!

IRL that's not true -- Luke Newton is 6' and when he and Nicola Coughlan did promotional appearances I think they looked well suited to each other. But on screen I agree she overpowered him. I think it has to do with how photogenic Nicola is on camera, and with this round face and lots of hair and the way the costumes tend to display her boobs in a really prominent way -- Newton just kind of faded into the background in their love scenes. I don't think she's literally too big for him, I just think it would have been better to pair her with someone who would look more balanced on screen, especially in close up. Like the guy who plays Will Mondrich (Marins Inhangbe) would have been great.

The problem was that they were going by the books, and Pen is supposed to be with Colin, who was already cast and they prioritized casting the Bridgerton men to look like brothers more than to look good with their partners. They got lucky with Jonathan Bailey, who I thought looked perfect with Simone Ashley -- they are both long and lean and have these angular faces that were very complimentary. But Colin and Penelope weren't as good of a visual match, they should have thought about that when casting Colin.

This is also going to be problem if they ever do the Gregory season, which would be season 8 if they matched the books. Because the kid playing Gregory has even less presence on screen than Luke Newton and if they cast really great actresses for his love triangle, he's going to look so lost.

Colin just didn't come across as appealing in his season, especially since he spent half the season being sulky and then making things worse. It just wasn't attractive and you felt bad for Penelope. Coughlan is a more charismatic actress.

Agreed. It sucks that they threw away her season like that, she's also one of the better actors among the younger people on the show. Though at least she will continue to play a larger role moving forward than most former leads have done since she's Lady Whistledown.

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I: I used to like Bridgerton, yes?
S: Yah, I know.
I: Listen. And that show, it has sexy, fun actors. But I am always thinking of the small-budget, Canadian hockey show with the two beautiful boys. It's a terrible problem, huh?
S: Do you want that problem to go away?
I: No, I don't ever want that problem to ever go away.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

Who is Nelson and who is Lady Hamilton? This is a thread about Bridgerton.

A) You should definitely know who Nelson is (Battle of Trafalgar?). B) Lady Hamilton was a famous mistress who died right around the time Bridgerton is set, so it is relevant for "what kind of life would a mistress in the Regency era have."

DP and I know who Admiral Nelson is but I actually would not expect that to be common knowledge -- he is a famous military leader from the Napoleonic wars, it's not like he was a king or president or something. It would be like expecting someone from France to know who Henry Knox is, which I would not.

Also I'd never heard of Lady Hamilton before, I'd relegate her to "trivia." Yes, interesting in terms of Bridgerton but you could have nicely provided the background instead of assuming everyone knows about this fairly obscure historical figure you are talking about like she's a Real Housewife.

Knowing actual history does make Bridgerton kind of funny, like in the Charlotte show where George III's mother was going on about what it means to be properly English and Charlotte being German treated as odd when George III's mother was herself German (as was his father).

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

I know but she did well while he was alive and if he’d lived things would have been very different for her and her child’s. Just making the point that the long term mistress to a man of standing was relatively speaking a pretty good job for a woman in th 18th century. Emma probably would not have done better working in the mills for instance, or married to a miner, or working in a great house. All the ootions were pretty lousy.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated the lesson in power imbalance that Benedict got from the cottage caretaker. Curious if they’re going to revisit that so directly again in the rest of the season.

I like Benedict well enough this season, but then that dolt went ahead and pissed me right off. Ooooo, I wanted to throw something at my TV with that mistress line. Make him crawl, Sophie.

It's realistic though, the most she could hope for due to the limitations of class. It was a different time. However, she'd of course be better off with a stable job for life versus a temporarily-more-luxurious mistress position that could end at any moment.

If you go back to the time period, being the mistress of a powerful man could actually be a pretty good power play and set you up pretty well for life. It depended very much on the couple — sometimes it was a true love situation where the man really did want to take care of her for life. Nelson’s mistress “lady hamilton” was born in poverty but did quite well for herself and his dying wish was that she be taken care of.

I’m not sure there was such a thing as a stable job for life in the 18th century — a housekeeper at a manor house is probably the closest you would get, but even that would depend on the family caring enough to provide for you in old age, as you wouldn’t be able to put much by.

Nelson's wishes were ignored and Lady Hamilton and her and Nelson's daughter were left begging. She died at 49 in massive debt. And this was after Nelson died a national hero.

I know but she did well while he was alive and if he’d lived things would have been very different for her and her child’s. Just making the point that the long term mistress to a man of standing was relatively speaking a pretty good job for a woman in th 18th century. Emma probably would not have done better working in the mills for instance, or married to a miner, or working in a great house. All the ootions were pretty lousy.

DP but that's actually a fair point. Shows like Bridgerton and Downton Abbey glamorize this work in a weird way (partly by skipping over the parts of the job, and of life in these eras, that were completely disgusting, like having to literally clean people's urine and feces on a daily basis and how common illness was and how little actual freedom women actually had) but it was backbreaking.

I will note that Sophie's education would set her up for an obvious job as a governess, which would be a much better job than a maid -- less physically demanding, for sure. Were she not obviously destined to marry Benedict by the end of the season, and setting aside what I'm sure will be malignant meddling by her stepmother, it's realistic that someone with her skill set would get snagged by one of the younger Bridgestons as a governess for their kids. Maybe not as glamorous as being a mistress with her own house, but more stable and as close as someone of the lower classes could get to a "cushy" job in those days.

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished episode 4. Goddamn. This is way better than Season 2 or 3. It might even top Season 1. The scene with Benedict and Sophie in the stairwell was so hot…he licked two of his fingers….omg! I need a cold shower. Of course it was totally ruined with the whole “Be my mistress” line.

Violet was a trip with the whole inviting Lady Danbury’s brother over for tea.

Omg really?? I didn’t get the finger licking at all. If she’s really going to come in 45 seconds or whatever, she’s already lubricated. And if she wasn’t, licking your fingers like that wouldn’t help. He barely moistened them. It was just kind of icky.

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished episode 4. Goddamn. This is way better than Season 2 or 3. It might even top Season 1. The scene with Benedict and Sophie in the stairwell was so hot…he licked two of his fingers….omg! I need a cold shower. Of course it was totally ruined with the whole “Be my mistress” line.

Violet was a trip with the whole inviting Lady Danbury’s brother over for tea.

Omg really?? I didn’t get the finger licking at all. If she’s really going to come in 45 seconds or whatever, she’s already lubricated. And if she wasn’t, licking your fingers like that wouldn’t help. He barely moistened them. It was just kind of icky.

+1 I don’t find the actor playing Benedict attractive, so it’s harder to watch this season. I also feel like there’s a real lack of chemistry.