New when will furloughed feds go back to work guesses

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Anonymous wrote:Where do you see the betting odds? Personally, I want and need to get back to work. I am going to start writing my Democrat senators and ask them to please cave. It's over already. Evil won, just accept it.

I want and need to go back to work, but I don't want them to cave. If Dems cave, we probably don't get backpay (despite the law) and the layoffs and recisions will just increase. Meanwhile, there is growing pressure on Republicans to resolve this.

There's no chance this ends before November, regardless - among other reasons, I think the White House wants a "record" duration.

News for you: layoffs and rescissions coming your way no matter what. What pressure do you think Rs are feeling? None.

DP. Trump is feeling no pressure, but the Rs in Congress are. See MTG’s comments today. You need to stop panicking. The Ds cannot give in on this.

I need to stop panicking? WTF? I cannot get another job, I have no other source of income. You people are nuts thinking everybody can sit around for months with no income.

I’m really sympathetic to loss of income, but any federal employee outside of DOD and DHS has known for almost a year that lost income was a likely possibility (history of shutdowns, DOGE, Vought etc). I took on two part time jobs to save extra in addition to cutting expenses. We are in for more hurt than this especially if Democrats cave. Better prepare now.

Most feds are two income families with children -- getting a part time job (let alone two) is wildly unrealistic until you are doing Uber Eats at the dead of night (ie trading wear & tear and fuel for below minimum wage income) or working on the weekends at some retail job, which is not going to move the needle here in any meaningful way.

If someone is truly paycheck to paycheck I don't see why they would not have looked into one of the several banks/credit unions that offer interest free shutdown loans. Here is one example from USAA: https://www.usaa.com/support/government-shutdown-program/?akredirect=true

For a lot of these places, you have to have already belonged to the credit union prior to the shutdown. For example for Navy Federal, unless they recently changed it, they require at least your last paycheck to have already been direct deposited. So that freezes out a lot of people.

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Anonymous wrote:In a shock to no one, the cloture vote failed for the 11th time this evening.

Meanwhile, Thune says no negotiations until a CR passes.

Betting odds as of an hour ago give a 68% chance to it lasting more than 30 days, 51% to it lasting more than 35 days.

From tomorrow’s schedule it appears to me that they convene at 10am and there is no vote on cloture for the CR scheduled as of now. So that means at earliest, we go back Thursday if they vote on Wednesday and it somehow moves forward on its 12th vote…

I’m hoping by Nov 4, but think it’s seeming more and more likely this drags through Thanksgiving.

Take this with a grain of salt because it's third hand, but people working with our IC agency leadership are saying through November. I think this is likely.

Personally, I think they are going to pass the NDAA separately.

I don't see how agency leadership would have any visibility into this. It's a political question that hinges on how the polling looks as far as who ends up caving so I don't think anyone can know what that will look like.

Because they are talking to members of Congress and the President? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Most of the credit unions with shutdown loans require at least one direct deposit of a paycheck, and then limit the loan(s) based on the amount of the paycheck.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the credit unions with shutdown loans require at least one direct deposit of a paycheck, and then limit the loan(s) based on the amount of the paycheck.

I’m sure people can figure this out. These programs are helpful, many feds belong to at least one of the relevant credit unions or USAA. And there’s also a TSP loan option.

What would be most helpful is assurances that furloughed feds will receive backpay. It’s unconscionable to play around with public servants lives the way they’ve been doing.

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Johnson saying today that he won't block an Epstein vote, so it sounds like they bought someone off. GOP house members in flippable districts now telling him to keep ACA subsidies, so it should be early next week. We'll see if he calls everyone back in the next 36 hours.

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Anonymous wrote:Johnson saying today that he won't block an Epstein vote, so it sounds like they bought someone off. GOP house members in flippable districts now telling him to keep ACA subsidies, so it should be early next week. We'll see if he calls everyone back in the next 36 hours.

Do you have a citation for this?

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Anonymous wrote:Where do you see the betting odds? Personally, I want and need to get back to work. I am going to start writing my Democrat senators and ask them to please cave. It's over already. Evil won, just accept it.

I want and need to go back to work, but I don't want them to cave. If Dems cave, we probably don't get backpay (despite the law) and the layoffs and recisions will just increase. Meanwhile, there is growing pressure on Republicans to resolve this.

There's no chance this ends before November, regardless - among other reasons, I think the White House wants a "record" duration.

News for you: layoffs and rescissions coming your way no matter what. What pressure do you think Rs are feeling? None.

DP. Trump is feeling no pressure, but the Rs in Congress are. See MTG’s comments today. You need to stop panicking. The Ds cannot give in on this.

I need to stop panicking? WTF? I cannot get another job, I have no other source of income. You people are nuts thinking everybody can sit around for months with no income.

I’m really sympathetic to loss of income, but any federal employee outside of DOD and DHS has known for almost a year that lost income was a likely possibility (history of shutdowns, DOGE, Vought etc). I took on two part time jobs to save extra in addition to cutting expenses. We are in for more hurt than this especially if Democrats cave. Better prepare now.

Most feds are two income families with children -- getting a part time job (let alone two) is wildly unrealistic until you are doing Uber Eats at the dead of night (ie trading wear & tear and fuel for below minimum wage income) or working on the weekends at some retail job, which is not going to move the needle here in any meaningful way.

If someone is truly paycheck to paycheck I don't see why they would not have looked into one of the several banks/credit unions that offer interest free shutdown loans. Here is one example from USAA: https://www.usaa.com/support/government-shutdown-program/?akredirect=true

For a lot of these places, you have to have already belonged to the credit union prior to the shutdown. For example for Navy Federal, unless they recently changed it, they require at least your last paycheck to have already been direct deposited. So that freezes out a lot of people.

Thats kind of my point though that if you are living paycheck to paycheck you would presumably set something up in advance to avoid having this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Where do you see the betting odds? Personally, I want and need to get back to work. I am going to start writing my Democrat senators and ask them to please cave. It's over already. Evil won, just accept it.

I want and need to go back to work, but I don't want them to cave. If Dems cave, we probably don't get backpay (despite the law) and the layoffs and recisions will just increase. Meanwhile, there is growing pressure on Republicans to resolve this.

There's no chance this ends before November, regardless - among other reasons, I think the White House wants a "record" duration.

News for you: layoffs and rescissions coming your way no matter what. What pressure do you think Rs are feeling? None.

DP. Trump is feeling no pressure, but the Rs in Congress are. See MTG’s comments today. You need to stop panicking. The Ds cannot give in on this.

I need to stop panicking? WTF? I cannot get another job, I have no other source of income. You people are nuts thinking everybody can sit around for months with no income.

I’m really sympathetic to loss of income, but any federal employee outside of DOD and DHS has known for almost a year that lost income was a likely possibility (history of shutdowns, DOGE, Vought etc). I took on two part time jobs to save extra in addition to cutting expenses. We are in for more hurt than this especially if Democrats cave. Better prepare now.

Most feds are two income families with children -- getting a part time job (let alone two) is wildly unrealistic until you are doing Uber Eats at the dead of night (ie trading wear & tear and fuel for below minimum wage income) or working on the weekends at some retail job, which is not going to move the needle here in any meaningful way.

If someone is truly paycheck to paycheck I don't see why they would not have looked into one of the several banks/credit unions that offer interest free shutdown loans. Here is one example from USAA: https://www.usaa.com/support/government-shutdown-program/?akredirect=true

USAA is for military.

And anyone who has family who served. I’m not military, but use USAA because my grandfathers both served.

+1. Pen Fed is another option.

However, you have to already be signed up for direct deposit with them in order to use the shutdown loan. We direct deposit with another bank so I missed out on that.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the credit unions with shutdown loans require at least one direct deposit of a paycheck, and then limit the loan(s) based on the amount of the paycheck.

I’m sure people can figure this out. These programs are helpful, many feds belong to at least one of the relevant credit unions or USAA. And there’s also a TSP loan option.

What would be most helpful is assurances that furloughed feds will receive backpay. It’s unconscionable to play around with public servants lives the way they’ve been doing.

That’s pretty much the point, never forget the Russell Vought is behind this. He literally wants to mentally torment us for the mere fact we are public servants.

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Anonymous wrote:The general public outside the beltway generally isn’t paying attention and they don’t feel the pain, yet. Of this drags on, Vought is going to use it as an excuse to lay off thousands of employees. When I say thousands, I mean way more than 10k. He’s also going to figure out a way to not pay back pay.

Absolutely. It's proving that we do not need a federal government.

Yeah let’s just get rid of the government and turn all the existing federal employees into indentured servants because right now your assessment that we don’t need the government is entirely because of the people working unpaid to make sure the American people still get their services.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the credit unions with shutdown loans require at least one direct deposit of a paycheck, and then limit the loan(s) based on the amount of the paycheck.

I’m sure people can figure this out. These programs are helpful, many feds belong to at least one of the relevant credit unions or USAA. And there’s also a TSP loan option.

What would be most helpful is assurances that furloughed feds will receive backpay. It’s unconscionable to play around with public servants lives the way they’ve been doing.

That’s pretty much the point, never forget the Russell Vought is behind this. He literally wants to mentally torment us for the mere fact we are public servants.

He’s an ogre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The general public outside the beltway generally isn’t paying attention and they don’t feel the pain, yet. Of this drags on, Vought is going to use it as an excuse to lay off thousands of employees. When I say thousands, I mean way more than 10k. He’s also going to figure out a way to not pay back pay.

Absolutely. It's proving that we do not need a federal government.

Yeah let’s just get rid of the government and turn all the existing federal employees into indentured servants because right now your assessment that we don’t need the government is entirely because of the people working unpaid to make sure the American people still get their services.

Exactly. A thank you would be nice, but most feds would just settle for being left alone to do their jobs in obscurity, like they always have.

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Trump and his ilk can try all they want to blame the Dems but when family Christmas is ruined and retailers report the worst holiday shopping season in decades he will not be able to escape the wrath or the blame. He is such turd

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The government will open for a day, process paychecks for the excepted workers, and then shut down again. Rinse and repeat for about a year and you’ll have the smaller government. That was the goal of DOGE.

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40% of Americans blame the Republicans for the shutdown and 30% of Americans blame the Democrats.
So while the shutdown hurts the Democrats, it hurts the Republicans more.