New when will furloughed feds go back to work guesses

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Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

It's probably not the same plan. "BCBS" is very vague.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

Because that would be a bad thing?

Yes, that would be a bad thing to me. If it's what you want, go win elections with candidates who agree with you (and say it while campaigning).

Found the worthless insurance executive. Sorry you’ll have to stop leeching off society soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

Because they can. That’s the broken part. Obamacare sucks because it did not address the underlying issue of the for-profit insurance industry and lack of transparency for the consumer, but its opponents on the right haven’t presented another option so it’s the least bad thing we have for now and the point is you can’t pull the rug out from under people until there’s something else in place. Some kind of real reform, like single-payer or some magical fantasy plan from the Rs that isn’t “just die, then”.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

Because that would be a bad thing?

Yes, that would be a bad thing to me. If it's what you want, go win elections with candidates who agree with you (and say it while campaigning).

Found the worthless insurance executive. Sorry you’ll have to stop leeching off society soon.

You must live in a very impenetrable bubble if you think single payor is coming soon.

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Punchbowl News

Punchbowl News covers Congressional play-by-play and has a professional option that is used by people who work in legislative affairs. But please, lecture me about how I have no idea what I am talking about and am "dumb."

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Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

Because they can. That’s the broken part. Obamacare sucks because it did not address the underlying issue of the for-profit insurance industry and lack of transparency for the consumer, but its opponents on the right haven’t presented another option so it’s the least bad thing we have for now and the point is you can’t pull the rug out from under people until there’s something else in place. Some kind of real reform, like single-payer or some magical fantasy plan from the Rs that isn’t “just die, then”.

Are you lying to the rest of us and already know that many American health insurance companies are nonprofit including many BCBS entities, or are you just relying on sources that lie to you?

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Here is the coverage this morning from Axios Hill Leaders about the one year extension:

The big picture: Today was a major climb-down for Democrats, who started the shutdown demanding a permanent extension to ACA tax credits and the evisceration of the "big, beautiful bill."

Last month, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries described a proposed one-year tax credit extension as "laughable." He's since expressed more openness to a compromise.

The bottom line: The Democratic proposal, if passed, would guarantee that ACA tax credit extensions move through the Senate.

[Anonymous]

So basically the government has been shut down unnecessarily and has caused a lot of pain for a one year extension that was available 3 weeks ago but was rejected because the Dems wanted to look tough through the election. Now with the travel disruptions and SNAP benefits the pain is getting real for ordinary people—not just us disposable federal workers—and they are proposing… a one year extension.

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And make no mistake about it, the one year extension is now only acceptable because it tees up healthcare for midterms.

The people impacted don’t actually matter, only the election results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

Since the GOP got rid of the ACA mandate, only sick people sign up through the exchanges. That makes the rates go up, which further reduces the number of healthy people on Obamacare, which drives the rates up....

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Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

Since the GOP got rid of the ACA mandate, only sick people sign up through the exchanges. That makes the rates go up, which further reduces the number of healthy people on Obamacare, which drives the rates up....

This. Rates are high when you’re in a high risk pool. Republicans did what they could to gut Obamacare in the first place. Dems agreed to expiring subsidies just to get it passed. It turned out though that the exchanges were more popular than Republicans thought they’d be. We live in a country where shareholders vote trillion dollar executive pay packages but we can’t figure out how to let people buy into a health insurance plan. This country has gone completely to hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

Because that would be a bad thing?

Yes, that would be a bad thing to me. If it's what you want, go win elections with candidates who agree with you (and say it while campaigning).

Found the worthless insurance executive. Sorry you’ll have to stop leeching off society soon.

You must live in a very impenetrable bubble if you think single payor is coming soon.

I think more people are open to it than previously. Especially if politicians could explain it’s benefit instead of fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So basically the government has been shut down unnecessarily and has caused a lot of pain for a one year extension that was available 3 weeks ago but was rejected because the Dems wanted to look tough through the election. Now with the travel disruptions and SNAP benefits the pain is getting real for ordinary people—not just us disposable federal workers—and they are proposing… a one year extension.

No you moron the Republicans own this!

Dems will be fools to compromise!

Mike Johnson is holding the house hostage for a criminal pedo

Spare us your this is Dems fault only one party is trying to stop this country from working and helping Americans and is trying to the all your rights away!!!

Congress is shut because republicans are suing for you to lose everything!

Meanwhile Trump is letting spies go free Russian spies while kids can not eat.

And for gods sake you idiot go read project 2025 they literally write the shut down in they are at fault!

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Anonymous wrote:Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

Because they can. That’s the broken part. Obamacare sucks because it did not address the underlying issue of the for-profit insurance industry and lack of transparency for the consumer, but its opponents on the right haven’t presented another option so it’s the least bad thing we have for now and the point is you can’t pull the rug out from under people until there’s something else in place. Some kind of real reform, like single-payer or some magical fantasy plan from the Rs that isn’t “just die, then”.

Are you lying to the rest of us and already know that many American health insurance companies are nonprofit including many BCBS entities, or are you just relying on sources that lie to you?

When the heads of individual BCBS entitiee make several million dollars a year in compensation that doesn’t fit any reasonable behavior of a non-profit. They care very much about how much money they can bring in and it’s not to provide better service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So basically the government has been shut down unnecessarily and has caused a lot of pain for a one year extension that was available 3 weeks ago but was rejected because the Dems wanted to look tough through the election. Now with the travel disruptions and SNAP benefits the pain is getting real for ordinary people—not just us disposable federal workers—and they are proposing… a one year extension.

true, but it's just politics isn't it? winsome losesome. move on and pick another fight in two weeks.