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Anonymous wrote:Senate will vote later today? If they agree to extend the ACA for one year, the government will be reopened likely on Wednesday?

They aren't going to accept the proposal.

Why not? What exactly is the problem with funding health care?

WSJ podcast “The Journal” featured one of these people who was getting their healthcare subsidized. It was a 64 yr old guy in California who retired early from a career as a consultant. We used to be paying $31k of his health insurance as taxpayers while he paid $7k. When he saw he has to pay for himself, he decided he will just travel internationally on travel insurance until he turns 65.

So yeah. I don’t want to subsidize rich early retirees. And Obamacare didn’t cover them either. This was a SHORT TERM Covid thing.

You should check out the latest Senate hearing on the ACA, subsidies, and enhanced subsidies. They heard testimony from a married mother of two who was concerned that the $460 she paid a month for 4 family members was going to lose the enhanced subsidy which would increase her monthly costs for 4 to $700. In addition to that enhanced subsidy of $240 a month, she also receives $800 a month in regular subsidies. She and her husband work at a small gym as personal trainers and she is worried that to cover this additional $240 a month, her husband will need to find a job with benefits and she will need to cut back on her children's sport and social activities. She considers herself middle class.

I'm all for the ACA and subsidies, but these folks come across like leeches.

Except for the fact that every other advanced country similar to the US has universal healthcare pa id for by income taxes.

+1. Healthcare should be free for everyone. What is the point of society??

+2. Trump sent $40 billion in our tax dollars in a failed attempt to prop up the Argentine currency last month without Congressional approval. Yet Republicans are nickeling and diming Americans struggling to afford health insurance premiums so they can lead healthy and productive lives.

+3!!! How can people not see how ridiculous this all is? Trump is saying he can't pay SNAP benefits but he's able to send $40 BILLION dollars to Argentina? What are we doing here??

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Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

Your post is misleading. Thune proposed to enact the extension only AFTER the government was re-opened. The dems understandably don’t trust the GOP on this and have been pretty clear about that. Schumer’s proposal tied them together, not as separate sequential actions.

+1. How dumb are you to believe these two situations are similar? WHY do you think Thune offered to do the ACA deal only after the govt was reopened? because he was planning to renege. If he wasn't planning to renege, he would have been fine doing both at the same time, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

Your post is misleading. Thune proposed to enact the extension only AFTER the government was re-opened. The dems understandably don’t trust the GOP on this and have been pretty clear about that. Schumer’s proposal tied them together, not as separate sequential actions.

Nobody in Congress knows how to do their job. Everyone should be removed and there should be an election to refill all the seats.

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Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

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Anonymous wrote:Woke up really salty and agitated about missing another paycheck. We are okay for now thanks to a credit union loan, but a woman in my neighborhood who works for TSA is collecting food, diapers, and gas cards for her colleagues.

And now the proposal from Schumer is a one year extension of the ACA subsidies, which was on the table (proposed by Thune) on October 17 -- but the Democrats rejected it then, and now Thune is rejecting it.

Here is the cite: https://taxnews.ey.com/news/2025-2099-what-to-expect-in-washington-october-17 ("Punchbowl News reported Leader Thune as saying he has offered Democrats a two-vote deal: one on opening the government, the other on a separate one-year extension of enhanced premium tax credits.")

These people are playing with people's lives and DO NOT CARE.

Open the goddamned government, I don't care how.

Your post is misleading. Thune proposed to enact the extension only AFTER the government was re-opened. The dems understandably don’t trust the GOP on this and have been pretty clear about that. Schumer’s proposal tied them together, not as separate sequential actions.

+1. How dumb are you to believe these two situations are similar? WHY do you think Thune offered to do the ACA deal only after the govt was reopened? because he was planning to renege. If he wasn't planning to renege, he would have been fine doing both at the same time, right?

+2. Thune is a moron. How can he send up the same bill to be voted on 14 times and have it fail and not realize there might be something wrong? Does he not know how to negotiate or compromise?

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Why shouldn't the well-off be able to get them? The issue is where do you get healthcare if you aren't employed? Even well-off need health insurance, because we don't all have Elon Musk's salary.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Why shouldn't the well-off be able to get them? The issue is where do you get healthcare if you aren't employed? Even well-off need health insurance, because we don't all have Elon Musk's salary.

Well-off people should be allowed to buy policies, sure. They should not force the rest of us to pay for part of the policy. That's what the "subsidy" part means.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Why shouldn't the well-off be able to get them? The issue is where do you get healthcare if you aren't employed? Even well-off need health insurance, because we don't all have Elon Musk's salary.

Well-off people should be allowed to buy policies, sure. They should not force the rest of us to pay for part of the policy. That's what the "subsidy" part means.

You’re not paying for their policy subsidy if you’re not well off. They would be paying both for your subsidy and theirs with their higher taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Why shouldn't the well-off be able to get them? The issue is where do you get healthcare if you aren't employed? Even well-off need health insurance, because we don't all have Elon Musk's salary.

Well-off people should be allowed to buy policies, sure. They should not force the rest of us to pay for part of the policy. That's what the "subsidy" part means.

You’re not paying for their policy subsidy if you’re not well off. They would be paying both for your subsidy and theirs with their higher taxes.

Instead, they should just pay their own damn way.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

Because that would be a bad thing?

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Im still curious why my BCBS plan costs $2200 for me and my employer, but I saw $3897 for BCBS on healthcare exchange a week or so ago. Why do they charge almost double? What is going on?

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Who cares??? People want this. The only reason republicans are resisting this is because they want to avoid a real negotiation over healthcare and don’t want to face the reality that the public actually WANTS subsidized universal healthcare.

Which people? I do NOT want subsidies to expand and expand until we painted ourselves into a single-payor corner.

Because that would be a bad thing?

Yes, that would be a bad thing to me. If it's what you want, go win elections with candidates who agree with you (and say it while campaigning).

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Anonymous wrote:Do people realize that the Covid era subsidies got huge in terms of budget impact because they eliminated the Obamacare 4x poverty level income ceilings for households?
So yes the well off can get them and that's part of the policy fight. Go ask Gemini.

Why shouldn't the well-off be able to get them? The issue is where do you get healthcare if you aren't employed? Even well-off need health insurance, because we don't all have Elon Musk's salary.

Well-off people should be allowed to buy policies, sure. They should not force the rest of us to pay for part of the policy. That's what the "subsidy" part means.

I agree that taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for all sorts of random policies! Glad you agree that universal healthcare is the obvious solution!!