The Five school districts with Title IX violations, how much money do they stand to lose?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Please post your name so we can see how hateful you are towards women, and how much you despise young women in particular. Thanks!

I find it very creepy when Republicans (and lesbians) are obsessed with naked young girls in locker rooms. Like when they write about them in great detail in their blog. Must be a fetish or something.

That’s you with the fetish, my gross friend. Nobody wants people like you around kids. That paragraph you just wrote gives you away entirely. Stay away from kids.

I just described what some anti-trans people write in their blogs. Gross, right?

These are not people we want in locker rooms with young girls.

You are disgusting. Stay far away from kids.

Yes, the words are disgusting.

I hope that creepy TERFs stop going to my local pool and then writing about it in great detail on their blog.

^ in fact, I think I'm going to let the pool manager know about this blog and see if we can get her blocked.

NP. Oh no!! What are those creepy TERFs writing in their blog?
Are you a trans woman?
I know of one, not at my pool but another one, who is definitely an activist and adds a layer of trans activism into summer swim. If it were my pool, I wouldn’t like it.
There are a lot of people who smile and nod at you but in reality most individuals and families aren’t buying into it.
Also, your misogyny is showing. old childless TERFs? Come on now. Is that the other side of the childless cat ladies coin?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish APS wasn’t doing this. I hate Trump but the courts are pretty conservative right now and these lawsuits create risk of bad decisions. I think the left has to be more strategic from both a political and legal standpoint.

Yeah, I don’t understand why they can’t issue a statement denouncing the administration, affirming their commitment to offering unisex, single stall bathroom/changing rooms for students who need them while acknowledging that they can’t disadvantage many students by losing federal funding.

I’d rather they just shred the IEP, gifted services plan, or TJHSST funding for every kid coming from a Republican family. They’re easy enough to find. My third grader knew how everyone’s parents voted. Budgets have to be cut, let it be for the people who voted for the guy who cut them.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

But they were able to gain access to the women's changing area by exploiting current policy. That is a problem

The problem was that they gained access to ANY locker room. We don't know how many young boys that he has exposed himself to in the men's locker room over the years.

So, the progressive take is that predators are accessing the men’s rooms to get at young boys, so we should open the women’s rooms so there is equal opportunity access for predators to get to girls as well??? 😳😳

Do you understand how crazy you sound? Why this issue is losing people sharply by the day? Why you are morally and ethically wrong?

How about we focus our efforts to keep the creeps out of the bathrooms period?

The Republicans will never do that, because it seems to be that those creeps are the same creeps that are creeps at church, creeps at sport, creeps in Boy Scouts, and creeps in public office. And overwhelmingly vote Republican, because it is the party of creeps who prey on children.

In fact, we know the cause of the trans panic. With surgery and puberty blockers, the GOP creeps hanging around high schools looking for teens they can groom into wives can’t be assured each cute thing in a skirt is capable of breeding. If we tell you you’re not gay for wanting to f*ck a 15-year femme boy, will you leave the kids alone?

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

[Anonymous]

I love that Dems keep pushing this trans stuff. For most parents, this is an easy issue to focus on for single issue voters. Easy votes for republicans that they might not have gotten otherwise. Losing issue for Dems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

Perhaps a poorly written policy that already enabled at least one creep to freely access the women’s locker room is not the hill to die on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that Dems keep pushing this trans stuff. For most parents, this is an easy issue to focus on for single issue voters. Easy votes for republicans that they might not have gotten otherwise. Losing issue for Dems.

I have long wondered why Dems want to die on this hill when there are more pressing issues that people would actually agree on.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Dems keep pushing this trans stuff. For most parents, this is an easy issue to focus on for single issue voters. Easy votes for republicans that they might not have gotten otherwise. Losing issue for Dems.

I have long wondered why Dems want to die on this hill when there are more pressing issues that people would actually agree on.

Republicans created the hill to distract from the fact that their standard bearer purchased his wife from a child sex trafficker, and their esteemed preachers and ministers keep getting caught molesting children.

I think we can all agree that kiddie diddlers should be castrated. Right? Right?!!

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Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

Perhaps a poorly written policy that already enabled at least one creep to freely access the women’s locker room is not the hill to die on.

And now all adults have to show ID to confirm they are not sex offenders. Good policy, long overdue. Don’t need to attack 12-year old trans kids anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

Perhaps a poorly written policy that already enabled at least one creep to freely access the women’s locker room is not the hill to die on.

And now all adults have to show ID to confirm they are not sex offenders. Good policy, long overdue. Don’t need to attack 12-year old trans kids anymore.

Sorry - not registered sex offenders

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

It is interesting how the sexism, misogyny, and ageism of trans activists always seeps out. They can’t keep it in, for whatever reason. It is just a core part of who they are, I guess.

I think this is part of the reason a lot of trans rights issues have become approximately 90/10 issues (including Gen Z).

It’s odd how the schools are taking such an unprincipled and unpopular stance. They could compromise (create a safe third space for trans kids, address sports on a case by case basis, etc) but they are so determined to fight for the rights of misogynists that they can’t back down.

I’m a Millennial who has noted for years (well before the current GOP trans panic) that the only people parading around locker rooms nude are old ladies, and when I say parade, I mean parade. As in, awkward changing my 3 year old in there parade. Blow drying the hair, applying the makeup, reorganizing the gym bag, and shooting the breeze completely nude. From what my husband told me, it’s the same in the men’s room.

If it’s ageist and sexist to speak the truth, I’m guilty as charged. Now put some clothes on, there are kids present.

+1

Exhibitionism seems like a fetish for some people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

Perhaps a poorly written policy that already enabled at least one creep to freely access the women’s locker room is not the hill to die on.

And now all adults have to show ID to confirm they are not sex offenders. Good policy, long overdue. Don’t need to attack 12-year old trans kids anymore.

+1

Yes, now ALL kids are better protected. Better solution than attacking vulnerable youth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Please post your name so we can see how hateful you are towards women, and how much you despise young women in particular. Thanks!

I find it very creepy when Republicans (and lesbians) are obsessed with naked young girls in locker rooms. Like when they write about them in great detail in their blog. Must be a fetish or something.

That’s you with the fetish, my gross friend. Nobody wants people like you around kids. That paragraph you just wrote gives you away entirely. Stay away from kids.

I just described what some anti-trans people write in their blogs. Gross, right?

These are not people we want in locker rooms with young girls.

You are disgusting. Stay far away from kids.

Yes, the words are disgusting.

I hope that creepy TERFs stop going to my local pool and then writing about it in great detail on their blog.

^ in fact, I think I'm going to let the pool manager know about this blog and see if we can get her blocked.

What is this referring to?

A local TERF (term she calls herself) writes in great about nudity in the women’s locker room. She writes about her own exhibitionism as well young girls dancing around naked.

Seems super creepy and somewhat predatory to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

Neville Chamberlain would like a word about the dangers of appeasement.

Perhaps a poorly written policy that already enabled at least one creep to freely access the women’s locker room is not the hill to die on.

And now all adults have to show ID to confirm they are not sex offenders. Good policy, long overdue. Don’t need to attack 12-year old trans kids anymore.

And if the perpetrator is a student…?