The Five school districts with Title IX violations, how much money do they stand to lose?

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

But they were able to gain access to the women's changing area by exploiting current policy. That is a problem

The problem was that they gained access to ANY locker room. We don't know how many young boys that he has exposed himself to in the men's locker room over the years.

You’re alienating potential allies when you pretend the incident had nothing to do with APS policy. If a man reported Kenneth Richard Cox was being a creep in the men’s room it would have been addressed. However, since she declared herself a woman, the pool staff was afraid to do anything when women reported her.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt any of the anti trans posters have even been in a high school recently. 90% of kids don’t change where I teach anymore, they just wear comfy clothes to school and throw on sneakers. Locker rooms aren’t a huge deal. Certainly no showers or naked displays.

Bathrooms are behind a stall door so again, not sure what anyone thinks they’ll see.

If you’re truly worried about sex offenders in locker rooms and bathrooms, not trans children, let’s brainstorm ways to stop that.

EXACTLY.

That Arlington predator wasn't allowed in either bathroom.

My two APS teens have never changed in an open locker room, either for gym or varsity sports.

The only naked people I've seen in locker rooms in the last decade are older ladies at the pool who are creepy exhibitionists.

But they were able to gain access to the women's changing area by exploiting current policy. That is a problem

The problem was that they gained access to ANY locker room. We don't know how many young boys that he has exposed himself to in the men's locker room over the years.

You’re alienating potential allies when you pretend the incident had nothing to do with APS policy. If a man reported Kenneth Richard Cox was being a creep in the men’s room it would have been addressed. However, since she declared herself a woman, the pool staff was afraid to do anything when women reported her.

Exactly. And we shouldn’t discount the very real fear that people in Arlington have that if they even suggest that maybe there’s a middle ground they could have their livelihoods threatened via online mobs.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school and have a son so I don’t feel like there’s a huge impact in my life but I can understand that if I had a daughter, I might feel differently. For what it’s worth we have several children who are trans at my school and they’re welcome to use the adult single bathroom if they choose (that has its own issues, but it’s not a big deal, generally none of them take the offer)

Then why does the trans person need to be in the opposite sex bathroom to begin with?

What do you think is going to happen to your daughter if there are trans girls using the same bathroom as her? And why is it an issue just for your daughter? There are trans boys, too. Why isn't anyone concerned about biologically female children using the same bathroom as boys? I've NEVER seen that come up as an issue. It's always about trans girls.

I think she’s going to be exposed to male body parts at an unacceptably young age.

Why are women always the target? We worked so hard for women’s rights and now women are being told we’re bigots because we want to protect our daughters and have equity for our daughters?

It’s so easy for Dems to label/name call: homophobic, transphobic…which no one wants to be titled just for expressing a deeply held fear of their daughters having their hard work and safety compromised by biological men

How many kids are running around with their genitals exposed in the bathroom in elementary school?! JFC.

Manufactured "issue" pushed by bigots.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Please post your name so we can see how hateful you are towards women, and how much you despise young women in particular. Thanks!

I find it very creepy when Republicans (and lesbians) are obsessed with naked young girls in locker rooms. Like when they write about them in great detail in their blog. Must be a fetish or something.

That’s you with the fetish, my gross friend. Nobody wants people like you around kids. That paragraph you just wrote gives you away entirely. Stay away from kids.

I just described what some anti-trans people write in their blogs. Gross, right?

These are not people we want in locker rooms with young girls.

You are disgusting. Stay far away from kids.

Yes, the words are disgusting.

I hope that creepy TERFs stop going to my local pool and then writing about it in great detail on their blog.

You are seriously f’ed in the head. Stop sexualizing children.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school and have a son so I don’t feel like there’s a huge impact in my life but I can understand that if I had a daughter, I might feel differently. For what it’s worth we have several children who are trans at my school and they’re welcome to use the adult single bathroom if they choose (that has its own issues, but it’s not a big deal, generally none of them take the offer)

Then why does the trans person need to be in the opposite sex bathroom to begin with?

What do you think is going to happen to your daughter if there are trans girls using the same bathroom as her? And why is it an issue just for your daughter? There are trans boys, too. Why isn't anyone concerned about biologically female children using the same bathroom as boys? I've NEVER seen that come up as an issue. It's always about trans girls.

I think she’s going to be exposed to male body parts at an unacceptably young age.

Why are women always the target? We worked so hard for women’s rights and now women are being told we’re bigots because we want to protect our daughters and have equity for our daughters?

It’s so easy for Dems to label/name call: homophobic, transphobic…which no one wants to be titled just for expressing a deeply held fear of their daughters having their hard work and safety compromised by biological men

How many kids are running around with their genitals exposed in the bathroom in elementary school?! JFC.

Manufactured "issue" pushed by bigots.

Women’s/girls rights are manufactured “issues” pushed by bigots?

Why does one biological man who feels a certain way get to trample over the rights of women? It’s so ironic- the left wing nuts seem to want to go back to 1950 and take back the hard earned rights of women.

Bigots are trying to demonize transgender people with fabricated scenarios such as kids being “exposed to male body parts” in elementary school bathrooms.

This is all a big deflection from the fact that Republicans have already stripped away the rights from millions of women. Along with other depravity from the GOP.

It’s really disgusting how bigots target vulnerable youth as pawns in their political games.

The issue is not elementary schools, it’s middle and high schools.

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Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

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Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

Say that last sentence again louder for the people in the back. The private sector has already figured this out. The reason so many companies are bending the knee (Apple, Paramount, AMD, etc...) is because it's a simple calculation - pay some millions now to save billions worth of headache later. And banking on all of this dumb-assery passing in 3.5 years. APS would do well to take a lesson here - take the L now, which costs very little (but not nothing! it's still gross what the admin is doing), in order to save a much larger sum being taken away later on.

tl;dr - utilitarianism

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Anonymous wrote:Replies in this thread should tell you how this issue is going to go. APS et al. are going to lose in court, badly, because even the courts now understand the insanity of these policies. There's a decent chance the 4th circuit reverses itself just to prevent SCOTUS from making a more sweeping and durable precedent (and to spare themselves the embarrassment). This is an 80/20 issue that even the Gen-z high schoolers are turning against. NOVA is so far out over its skis on this and it's a shame. The admins would rather stick their thumbs in the eye of the administration because it costs them nothing, but losing federal funds is going to hurt a lot more students.

You could have just let a half-dozen kids use the single-shot adult bathrooms/changing areas on an informal basis, and this would have been a total non-issue. But that wasn't enough.

Just like with school re-opening, just like with masking, you people insist on turning school administrators into avatars for your own revenge fantasies against national political figures. It's a pipe dream. You're going to lose, and rather than lose gracefully you're going to lose as ugly as possible, and somehow each time it happens you manage to pick an issue to lose ugly on that's even dumber and less popular. The funds will get cut off, the school year will be disrupted, and students will bear the brunt of it, and you and the school administrations are going to pat themselves on the back, feel good about yourselves, nominate the Superintendent for a few more awards, while claiming you bear none of the blame for the damage that this exceedingly stupid fight caused.

No one seriously thinks the schools are going to win this. You have to deal with reality as you find it, not as you wish it would be.

I agree with you. I also worry about unintended consequences. How many trans kids fall into other vulnerable categories (SPED, ELL, FRL) that will be impacted by cuts in funding?
Is this setting a precedent that we don't follow certain federal policies the board deems unacceptable? That might be fine now but what if the makeup of the board shifts and they decide to go rogue?

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Just remember APS’ general counsel went to the worst law school in the nation

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Please post your name so we can see how hateful you are towards women, and how much you despise young women in particular. Thanks!

I find it very creepy when Republicans (and lesbians) are obsessed with naked young girls in locker rooms. Like when they write about them in great detail in their blog. Must be a fetish or something.

You’re a sick freak, get help.

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I really wish APS wasn’t doing this. I hate Trump but the courts are pretty conservative right now and these lawsuits create risk of bad decisions. I think the left has to be more strategic from both a political and legal standpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish APS wasn’t doing this. I hate Trump but the courts are pretty conservative right now and these lawsuits create risk of bad decisions. I think the left has to be more strategic from both a political and legal standpoint.

Yeah, I don’t understand why they can’t issue a statement denouncing the administration, affirming their commitment to offering unisex, single stall bathroom/changing rooms for students who need them while acknowledging that they can’t disadvantage many students by losing federal funding.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait? NCAA has tracked back but APS and FCPS haven’t?

“The school division policies allow students of the opposite sex access to sex-separated facilities. They also allow students of the opposite sex to participate in sex-separated sports.“

I guess I’ll start looking at single sex private schools for high school. I thought we realized that very few people want this, and it’s unfair to women.

Please go say this under your real name. Own it if you really think this is right. If you just stay anonymous you must know on some level how hateful your views are.

Please post your name so we can see how hateful you are towards women, and how much you despise young women in particular. Thanks!

I find it very creepy when Republicans (and lesbians) are obsessed with naked young girls in locker rooms. Like when they write about them in great detail in their blog. Must be a fetish or something.

That’s you with the fetish, my gross friend. Nobody wants people like you around kids. That paragraph you just wrote gives you away entirely. Stay away from kids.

I just described what some anti-trans people write in their blogs. Gross, right?

These are not people we want in locker rooms with young girls.

You are disgusting. Stay far away from kids.

Yes, the words are disgusting.

I hope that creepy TERFs stop going to my local pool and then writing about it in great detail on their blog.

^ in fact, I think I'm going to let the pool manager know about this blog and see if we can get her blocked.

What is this referring to?

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember APS’ general counsel went to the worst law school in the nation

Which one?

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember APS’ general counsel went to the worst law school in the nation

Which one?

Whittier. It actually closed down because it could not maintain accreditation. A million lawyers in Arlington and APS couldn’t find anyone better?