Camp Mystic expanded on FEMA-designated floodplain, refused to buy insurance, had 100-year flood at age 99

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My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what do you think about people and businesses with buildings/homes in hurricane zones?

NP - I think this is a great point. What the camp did is no different than other businesses. It's wrong but for so many businesses this is what happens - it's much easier to look for profits and convenience. The other thing is the camp attracts the wrong attention by focusing on its bad location for so many years. It was a matter of time.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what do you think about people and businesses with buildings/homes in hurricane zones?

NP - I think this is a great point. What the camp did is no different than other businesses. It's wrong but for so many businesses this is what happens - it's much easier to look for profits and convenience. The other thing is the camp attracts the wrong attention by focusing on its bad location for so many years. It was a matter of time.

I agree and also can't imagine living or having a business near potential earthquakes, river floodings, tornadoes, sinkholes, swamps, coastlines, or wildfires.

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Anonymous wrote:Your statement is icky and gross. Everyone charge in Texas failed due to stupidity and rallying against science and Intelligence aka being republican. 27 children are dead. Hope that feels good to you and the other fruit loop cultists. Thoughts and prayers. MAGA.

Go back to your MAGA poop hole and worship your orange God you toothless hillbilly. Just kidding, I forgive you. Next time, just think and have empathy for victims and their families before spewing a bunch of garbage about a tragedy you know nothing about.

We can get through these times with love, compassion, and empathy.

The republican thoughts and prayers will absolutely help us get through these times. Tell that to the girls parents.

Love, compassion, and empathy are real tangible things that can be passed on to those in need. Your "thoughts and prayers" are a useless cop out to doing anything real to help people in need, dimwit.

I think PP was being sarcastic.

The PP is attempting to troll. Must be their first time. Piss poor job dimwit 😘

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

Exactly this. Floodplains don't care who you are, don't care what your politics are, don't care what your religion is, or anything else. They're gonna flood, period. You might as well be howling at the moon to try and argue about flood plains.

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Anonymous wrote:Your statement is icky and gross. Everyone charge in Texas failed due to stupidity and rallying against science and Intelligence aka being republican. 27 children are dead. Hope that feels good to you and the other fruit loop cultists. Thoughts and prayers. MAGA.

Go back to your MAGA poop hole and worship your orange God you toothless hillbilly. Just kidding, I forgive you. Next time, just think and have empathy for victims and their families before spewing a bunch of garbage about a tragedy you know nothing about.

We can get through these times with love, compassion, and empathy.

The republican thoughts and prayers will absolutely help us get through these times. Tell that to the girls parents.

Love, compassion, and empathy are real tangible things that can be passed on to those in need. Your "thoughts and prayers" are a useless cop out to doing anything real to help people in need, dimwit.

I think PP was being sarcastic.

The PP is attempting to troll. Must be their first time. Piss poor job dimwit 😘

The rest of us understood.

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

Exactly this. Floodplains don't care who you are, don't care what your politics are, don't care what your religion is, or anything else. They're gonna flood, period. You might as well be howling at the moon to try and argue about flood plains.

+1 Same for hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and wildfires.

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Anonymous wrote:Logically, that area is now safe for another 100 years.

100 years of flood history Guadalupe River.
The flood of July 2, 1932- crest 39.00 feet.
The flood of July 17, 1987- crest of 37.72 feet.
The flood on July 4, 2025- crest of 34.29 feet.

Major floods also occurred in 1972- 31 feet, 1978-31 feet, 1991 -30 feet and 1997. The 1998 flood was particularly significant downstream from Canyon Lake Dam.

The Guadalupe River basin has a history of devastating floods, earning the nickname "Flash Flood Alley".

Bottom line. No one could have predicted this.

Did you forget the /s

Tweety Eastland, the wife of the camp director who died in the flood, had to be helicopter evacuated during a different flood when she was pregnant with her fourth kid to give birth to at a hospital because the roads near the camp were impassable. This family knows all about the flood risks

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

Exactly this. Floodplains don't care who you are, don't care what your politics are, don't care what your religion is, or anything else. They're gonna flood, period. You might as well be howling at the moon to try and argue about flood plains.

Reality has a well-known liberal bias. The supernatural Kingdom of God favors the faithful. His natural work of Creation favors naturalists.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they were thinking that it doesn't matter if a camp cabin gets flooded -- they could just dry it out or build a new one.

They did not imagine the river level rising 26 feet in 45 minutes, what was a more of a tsunami than the typical flash flood.

That's not an excuse. We all need to adjust our expectations dramatically for the world under climate change.

But they could have responded to a 'normal' hundred year flood. This new mega-flash version gave them no chance to respond.

They knew those cabins were too close to the river. The owner had to get wife airlifted out of there years ago when she was pregnant. Then there was the earlier flood that killed camp kids down the river. There were so many failures, but many of them rest on the owner. This was an expensive camp filled with wealthy kids that expanded on higher ground. It was greed and incompetence.

You're not getting the big picture and it's making you sound like a complete and utter jerk of an idiot. Of course there were failures and of course 99% of the loss of life could have been prevented. This was a significant flash flood event occurrence that impact many camps and residential areas across several counties. Hundreds of people died. Tens of thousands of people in harms way were rescued or made it to safe ground. You're making an assumption that the negligence and incompetence that impacted one or two camps was part of region wide public safety failures that are tied to some political ideologies??

This type of flooding event covering a vast area would have similar tragic outcomes if it happened anywhere in the country in similarly populated areas. Grow up.

I am a DP to who you are responding to.

It is political ideology when a county refuses money from Biden for an alert system because it was Biden. And that is what happened here. 100% political and foolish and a lot of people died needlessly.

Money the county did or didn't take was not what created a circumstance where this tragedy was possible at Camp Mystic. Don't you have some tobacco to chew and Hannity to watch you two-bit fruitcake?

A warning system would have saved virtually every life lost in this flood. The county chose not to take the money for a warning system. So yes, the money not taken was 100% responsible for the lives lost.

Really? Because the camp director took away the kids' phones, and let them drown in their sleep when he got the warning on his phone.

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Anonymous wrote:Your statement is icky and gross. Everyone charge in Texas failed due to stupidity and rallying against science and Intelligence aka being republican. 27 children are dead. Hope that feels good to you and the other fruit loop cultists. Thoughts and prayers. MAGA.

Go back to your MAGA poop hole and worship your orange God you toothless hillbilly. Just kidding, I forgive you. Next time, just think and have empathy for victims and their families before spewing a bunch of garbage about a tragedy you know nothing about.

We can get through these times with love, compassion, and empathy.

The republican thoughts and prayers will absolutely help us get through these times. Tell that to the girls parents.

The girls are fine. They are in heaven. Their parents should be happy for their children.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they were thinking that it doesn't matter if a camp cabin gets flooded -- they could just dry it out or build a new one.

They did not imagine the river level rising 26 feet in 45 minutes, what was a more of a tsunami than the typical flash flood.

That's not an excuse. We all need to adjust our expectations dramatically for the world under climate change.

But they could have responded to a 'normal' hundred year flood. This new mega-flash version gave them no chance to respond.

They knew those cabins were too close to the river. The owner had to get wife airlifted out of there years ago when she was pregnant. Then there was the earlier flood that killed camp kids down the river. There were so many failures, but many of them rest on the owner. This was an expensive camp filled with wealthy kids that expanded on higher ground. It was greed and incompetence.

Prosperity Gospel. God wants me to be rich, and wants those girls in heaven.

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

Exactly this. Floodplains don't care who you are, don't care what your politics are, don't care what your religion is, or anything else. They're gonna flood, period. You might as well be howling at the moon to try and argue about flood plains.

+1 Same for hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and wildfires.

Good luck finding somewhere that no natural disasters can happen.

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Anonymous wrote:My MAGA neighbor thinks the increased floodplain lines are woke government acting on bad faith. I'm hopeful this shuts her up for the next decade on the subject.

It doesn't matter whether she shuts up or not. The floodplains are going to flood. More often and more severely.

Exactly this. Floodplains don't care who you are, don't care what your politics are, don't care what your religion is, or anything else. They're gonna flood, period. You might as well be howling at the moon to try and argue about flood plains.

+1 Same for hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and wildfires.

Good luck finding somewhere that no natural disasters can happen.

PP here...exactly!