Did Trump's cuts to NOAA and the National Weather Service impact predicting the flash floods in central Texas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:?
I thought they issued a watch the prior day and issued a warning that night when the flood happened. The problem was the camp people all had cell phones muted at night it sounded like. That is understandable and just led to tragic results here.

I am no maga but don’t get how the staffing cuts would have had an impact here.

Several other camps cancelled and sent people home or took the campers to higher group. NOAA sent out ever urgent cell phone warnings starting after 1pm. It sounds like the camp with the little girls didn’t take it seriously enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:?
I thought they issued a watch the prior day and issued a warning that night when the flood happened. The problem was the camp people all had cell phones muted at night it sounded like. That is understandable and just led to tragic results here.

I am no maga but don’t get how the staffing cuts would have had an impact here.

Several other camps cancelled and sent people home or took the campers to higher group. NOAA sent out ever urgent cell phone warnings starting after 1pm. It sounds like the camp with the little girls didn’t take it seriously enough.

Please do not post things like this unless you know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:?
I thought they issued a watch the prior day and issued a warning that night when the flood happened. The problem was the camp people all had cell phones muted at night it sounded like. That is understandable and just led to tragic results here.

I am no maga but don’t get how the staffing cuts would have had an impact here.

Several other camps cancelled and sent people home or took the campers to higher group. NOAA sent out ever urgent cell phone warnings starting after 1pm. It sounds like the camp with the little girls didn’t take it seriously enough.

Please do not post things like this unless you know what you are talking about.

Scroll down the article talks about the camps that did leave early.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it was Trumps fault when it flooded in 1936, 1952, 1972, 1973, 1978, 1987, 1991, and 1997 right?

Of course Trump didn’t cause the flooding, but by cutting NOAA he could have possibly saved those children. Climate change initiatives are also off the table with the BBB. Tommy Tuberville is on tape saying that Americans should lose green jobs. Add in the soon-to-be elimination of FEMA and Trump is putting American lives in danger.

If white Christian girls don’t sway the GOP, nothing will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county apparently uses Facebook to post weather reports and evacuations:
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

No one posted anything until the morning after the flood.

More info on the critical absence of a key employee at the local NWS office that has not been backfilled:

For instance, directly under Vesper at the local NWS office is a key position – warning coordination meteorologist (WCM) – that has remained vacant since April. The role was most recently held by longtime employee Paul Yura, who took an early retirement package offered to agency workers as the administration worked to reduce the budget and personnel number at the NWS and its parent agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Yura, who KXAN recently reported spent more than half of his 32-year career at the local NWS office, gained tremendous experience understanding local weather patterns while ensuring timely warnings get disseminated to the public in a multitude of ways. The importance of his role as WCM cannot be understated.

Ensuring ample and timely warning to Central Texas counties was among the chief responsibilities. According to NOAA, “The WCM coordinates the warning function of the office with the outside world. This would include heading the Skywarn Program, conducting spotter training and being a voice to the local media for the office.”

Following the Kerr County flood, KXAN reached out to Yura – who referenced a hiring freeze in his retirement message to the media – but he referred questions to an NWS public affairs official.

Along with Yura’s job, five other vacancies in the local NWS office have stacked up, according to its online staff roster and the NWS Employees Organization. Those include two meteorologists, two technology staff members and a science officer. The office has 26 employees when fully staffed.

Trump, Musk, Vought, and DOGE are directly responsible for this tragedy. This is the smoking gun and they should be held to account by Texas elites.

Yes they should be held accountable. But will they?
I really think the US has lost its conscience. When no changes happened in gun control after 5 year olds were massacred at Sandy Hook, I realized the US has really lost its way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The county apparently uses Facebook to post weather reports and evacuations:
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

No one posted anything until the morning after the flood.

More info on the critical absence of a key employee at the local NWS office that has not been backfilled:

For instance, directly under Vesper at the local NWS office is a key position – warning coordination meteorologist (WCM) – that has remained vacant since April. The role was most recently held by longtime employee Paul Yura, who took an early retirement package offered to agency workers as the administration worked to reduce the budget and personnel number at the NWS and its parent agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Yura, who KXAN recently reported spent more than half of his 32-year career at the local NWS office, gained tremendous experience understanding local weather patterns while ensuring timely warnings get disseminated to the public in a multitude of ways. The importance of his role as WCM cannot be understated.

Ensuring ample and timely warning to Central Texas counties was among the chief responsibilities. According to NOAA, “The WCM coordinates the warning function of the office with the outside world. This would include heading the Skywarn Program, conducting spotter training and being a voice to the local media for the office.”

Following the Kerr County flood, KXAN reached out to Yura – who referenced a hiring freeze in his retirement message to the media – but he referred questions to an NWS public affairs official.

Along with Yura’s job, five other vacancies in the local NWS office have stacked up, according to its online staff roster and the NWS Employees Organization. Those include two meteorologists, two technology staff members and a science officer. The office has 26 employees when fully staffed.

Trump, Musk, Vought, and DOGE are directly responsible for this tragedy. This is the smoking gun and they should be held to account by Texas elites.

Yes they should be held accountable. But will they?
I really think the US has lost its conscience. When no changes happened in gun control after 5 year olds were massacred at Sandy Hook, I realized the US has really lost its way.

Why should they be “held accountable”? The great people of Texas voted for this. This is what they asked for.

[Anonymous]

My hometown was levelled by a flash flood in 1993. Catastrophic damage and loss of life. Glad to know that the NWS and NOAA should have been on top of it and we should have blamed Bill Clinton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course. It’s what MAGA wants right?!

Yes but in the NE. They’re prob devastated this happened in Texas.

We don’t have extreme weather in the Northeast. Some hurricanes with ocean front houses destroyed sometimes but the buyers knew that. Not much else.

Hurricane Sandy says hello. GTFOH with this crap. NE doesn’t see extreme weather?

What year was that? 2012? How many since then?

Compared to the hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, droughts, fires, the Northeast and the Northwest don’t have yearly extreme weather catastrophes.

Rain in the Northwest and snow in the Northeast don’t compare to the rest of the country. Maybe it’s time that states pay for their own weather disasters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My hometown was levelled by a flash flood in 1993. Catastrophic damage and loss of life. Glad to know that the NWS and NOAA should have been on top of it and we should have blamed Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton was not a climate change denier fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My hometown was levelled by a flash flood in 1993. Catastrophic damage and loss of life. Glad to know that the NWS and NOAA should have been on top of it and we should have blamed Bill Clinton.

Did Bill Clinton reduce funding and staff at NOAA? At NWS? Did he call the media “fake news”, encouraging people to get their “news” from social media? Did he deny science? Did he call government employees and government services fraud? Did he previously use a Sharpie to lie to people about the weather?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reporter: Do you think the federal government needs to hire back any of the meteorologists who were fired?

Trump: I would think not. This was a thing that happened in seconds. No one expected it. Nobody saw it. Very talented people are there, they didn’t see it

Apparently meteorologists in Canada forecasted it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reporter: Do you think the federal government needs to hire back any of the meteorologists who were fired?

Trump: I would think not. This was a thing that happened in seconds. No one expected it. Nobody saw it. Very talented people are there, they didn’t see it

Apparently meteorologists in Canada forecasted it.

Yes. It was forecasted in Canada. Here is your president on the devastating situation.

“He was also asked whether he planned to rehire any of the federal meteorologists who were fired this year as part of widespread government spending reductions.

“I would think not. This was a thing that happened in seconds. Nobody expected it. Nobody saw it. Very talented people there, and they didn't see it," the president said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/search-texas-flood-third-day-1.7578368

[Anonymous]

Mexican fire fighters helping in Texas. What mensch!
https://bsky.app/profile/cwebbonline.com/post/3ltdkhd7alc2q

[Anonymous]

I read on twitter somewhere (don't have a link) that the county opted out of federal alerts. Don't know how true that it, but I did read it yesterday. I also read that campers along that same river, from different camps, died in 1979 and 1987...they even made a movie about one of the incidents. This is the third time it's happened in 50 years....I'm surprised these camps have not moved to a safer location. My own son went to a camp where his cabin was pretty much on a river bank. I shudder to think about it now. Cabins should never be located so close to rivers, especially when the counselors themselves are usually young themselves and inexperienced with weather events like these. Just a shame all the way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My hometown was levelled by a flash flood in 1993. Catastrophic damage and loss of life. Glad to know that the NWS and NOAA should have been on top of it and we should have blamed Bill Clinton.

While better than decades past, the weather technology in 1993 was not what it is today. No one is blaming Clinton because he didn't cut the infrastructure that was cutting edge at the time the way Trump cut staff earlier this year that had a material impact on the events surrounding this storm.