Did Trump's cuts to NOAA and the National Weather Service impact predicting the flash floods in central Texas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

If that’s true, it sounds like that camp can’t safely operate in that location. Will it close?

No one needs the government telling the where they can and can't leave their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

If that’s true, it sounds like that camp can’t safely operate in that location. Will it close?

The previous floods didn't close it. Why would this one?

Well the owner died, for one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is drastically outperforming Biden. 250 died in Bidens Appalachian flood. Trumps superior management has saved hundreds of lives Biden would have lost.

45 people died in that flood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Appalachian_floods

Trump’s DOGE gutted the National Weather Service which could have helped predict events like the Mystic Camp floods. FAFO. Turns out the federal govt is useful after all.

NWS predicted flooding. No one cared because no one had died since 1987. They might care now.

Would he interested to read a posting from Musk on X about how his groundbreaking work with DOGE should have prevented this disaster. Ideally, a more efficient system with the help of top-notch AI should have prevented this. I thought that’s what we were aiming for.

[Anonymous]

Remember Elon and his chainsaw? This is the result of Musk and DOGE vandalizing the NWS to own the libs for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the 241 people reported victims of Hurricane Helene in the United States, 119 people were in North Carolina, surpassing the state record of 80 deaths recorded in a 1916 flood.[10][38] The reported count of missing people was under 600 people by September 29, according to a Register of Deeds update.[78] As of April 2025, the death toll reported by the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services

Yikes Biden FEMA underperforming Trump by mikes

Helene was a massive storm, compared to the one that hit Texas. And Helene response was significantly hindered by MAGA thugs doing things like threatening to shoot FEMA responders and spreading lies about FEMA to sow distrust and undermine them.

[Anonymous]

The county apparently uses Facebook to post weather reports and evacuations:
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

No one posted anything until the morning after the flood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The climate change causes the rain to move more slowly which is why they got so much rain — the weather system essentially stalled. Plus it increases total rainfall as the storms pick up more water from the ocean.

It’s called cloud seeding. Look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The climate change causes the rain to move more slowly which is why they got so much rain — the weather system essentially stalled. Plus it increases total rainfall as the storms pick up more water from the ocean.

It’s called cloud seeding. Look it up.

Yes, red state farmers do this when there are droughts. But it isn't some sort of liberal/Soros conspiracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

If that’s true, it sounds like that camp can’t safely operate in that location. Will it close?

No one needs the government telling the where they can and can't leave their kids.

Texas is the most dangerous state for kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The county apparently uses Facebook to post weather reports and evacuations:
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

No one posted anything until the morning after the flood.

More info on the critical absence of a key employee at the local NWS office that has not been backfilled:

For instance, directly under Vesper at the local NWS office is a key position – warning coordination meteorologist (WCM) – that has remained vacant since April. The role was most recently held by longtime employee Paul Yura, who took an early retirement package offered to agency workers as the administration worked to reduce the budget and personnel number at the NWS and its parent agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Yura, who KXAN recently reported spent more than half of his 32-year career at the local NWS office, gained tremendous experience understanding local weather patterns while ensuring timely warnings get disseminated to the public in a multitude of ways. The importance of his role as WCM cannot be understated.

Ensuring ample and timely warning to Central Texas counties was among the chief responsibilities. According to NOAA, “The WCM coordinates the warning function of the office with the outside world. This would include heading the Skywarn Program, conducting spotter training and being a voice to the local media for the office.”

Following the Kerr County flood, KXAN reached out to Yura – who referenced a hiring freeze in his retirement message to the media – but he referred questions to an NWS public affairs official.

Along with Yura’s job, five other vacancies in the local NWS office have stacked up, according to its online staff roster and the NWS Employees Organization. Those include two meteorologists, two technology staff members and a science officer. The office has 26 employees when fully staffed.

Trump, Musk, Vought, and DOGE are directly responsible for this tragedy. This is the smoking gun and they should be held to account by Texas elites.

[Anonymous]

I love how the MAGAs are trying to compare the stats from a hurricane to this storm to suggest Trump is doing better than Biden. How about instead, lets compare apples to apples.

2024 Beryl floods when Biden was president:
-NOAA was fully staffed
-NWS was fully staffed
-Accurate rainfalls predicted, saved lives
-timely evacuation notice and process
-FEMA moved in within 24-28 hours

2025 Texas Floods under Trump:
-NOAA/NWS gutted
-forecasts underplayed reality (3-8 inches instead of the 10+ that was actual)
-no clear evacuation order or protocols enacted

Scores dead, injured and missing.

[Anonymous]

Reporter: Do you think the federal government needs to hire back any of the meteorologists who were fired?

Trump: I would think not. This was a thing that happened in seconds. No one expected it. Nobody saw it. Very talented people are there, they didn’t see it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is drastically outperforming Biden. 250 died in Bidens Appalachian flood. Trumps superior management has saved hundreds of lives Biden would have lost.

45 people died in that flood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Appalachian_floods

Trump’s DOGE gutted the National Weather Service which could have helped predict events like the Mystic Camp floods. FAFO. Turns out the federal govt is useful after all.

NWS predicted flooding. No one cared because no one had died since 1987. They might care now.

Would he interested to read a posting from Musk on X about how his groundbreaking work with DOGE should have prevented this disaster. Ideally, a more efficient system with the help of top-notch AI should have prevented this. I thought that’s what we were aiming for.

Have you actually used AI? It has to be trained, and when you've insulted all the people who are there to train AI and tell them to leave / retire / get other jobs - you get what you get.

And you also need data to feed into AI, except many of those people gathering the data were RIFed and the budgets were cut.

The AI system should have been put into place BEFORE people were fired. Whoops, guess that's what happens when you put tech bros in charge who has never had to deal with whether people live or die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is drastically outperforming Biden. 250 died in Bidens Appalachian flood. Trumps superior management has saved hundreds of lives Biden would have lost.

45 people died in that flood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Appalachian_floods

Trump’s DOGE gutted the National Weather Service which could have helped predict events like the Mystic Camp floods. FAFO. Turns out the federal govt is useful after all.

NWS predicted flooding. No one cared because no one had died since 1987. They might care now.

Would he interested to read a posting from Musk on X about how his groundbreaking work with DOGE should have prevented this disaster. Ideally, a more efficient system with the help of top-notch AI should have prevented this. I thought that’s what we were aiming for.

People need to understand that DOGE was nothing more than the theft of government data on every single American and has NOTHING to do with actual government efficiency. And now, Peter Theil, the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans and everyone else has ALL of our data.

[Anonymous]

Link is from Apple News but this is the NPR timeline of the weather alerts, flooding and response.

https://apple.news/AxQUBvYD_Tq2rNOXtM3qUUA