Williams vs Bowdoin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can confirm Williams students are incredibly snobby about other schools. DD was deciding between Pomona and Wellesley and they largely said it would be stupid to turn Williams down. The kids at the others were much kinder and more humble, offering very useful perspective rather than blanket statements. Ultimately went to Wellesley and was very happy. Williams is akin to the Harvard of the LACs for all the good and bad that comes with it. Bowdoin would be like Dartmouth or Brown- more down to earth, less prestige obsessed students. Sure the brand is slightly weaker but the bowdoin group wouldn’t want to by anywhere else.

This. They aren’t going to get wrapped up in prestige talk. They are genuine people who legitimately care for and root for each other.

[Anonymous]

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Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

[Anonymous]

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Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

[Anonymous]

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Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Get a room already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

You have been consistently wrong and obstinate about the curriculums not having substantial differences, and keep doubling down with rudeness in the face of contradicting info. (Not very scientific of you!) But if someone cares, the textbook title for Williams 202 is Waves and Oscillations by WF Smith. It is not an intermediate QM book, but is a useful prep for (and thus relevant to) intermediate QM. Titles for courses can often be found through a college’s online bookstore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

You have been consistently wrong and obstinate about the curriculums not having substantial differences, and keep doubling down with rudeness in the face of contradicting info. (Not very scientific of you!) But if someone cares, the textbook title for Williams 202 is Waves and Oscillations by WF Smith. It is not an intermediate QM book, but is a useful prep for (and thus relevant to) intermediate QM. Titles for courses can often be found through a college’s online bookstore.

No one cares. Please stop. Go back to your physics and leave us alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

You have been consistently wrong and obstinate about the curriculums not having substantial differences, and keep doubling down with rudeness in the face of contradicting info. (Not very scientific of you!) But if someone cares, the textbook title for Williams 202 is Waves and Oscillations by WF Smith. It is not an intermediate QM book, but is a useful prep for (and thus relevant to) intermediate QM. Titles for courses can often be found through a college’s online bookstore.

No one cares. Please stop. Go back to your physics and leave us alone.

Physics is everywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

It is literally teaching the bra ket notation for QM in the chapters. It is clear you are not actually listening to yourself but want to ramble to appear correct. It's getting really tiring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

It is literally teaching the bra ket notation for QM in the chapters. It is clear you are not actually listening to yourself but want to ramble to appear correct. It's getting really tiring.

Because it’s a book on Waves and Optics! Preparing for later QM work! Moreover, neither course is required by Bowdoin, which was your original claim! Compare text for Williams 142 to Bowdoin’s description to 2140. Or don’t, I couldn’t care less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

It is literally teaching the bra ket notation for QM in the chapters. It is clear you are not actually listening to yourself but want to ramble to appear correct. It's getting really tiring.

Because it’s a book on Waves and Optics! Preparing for later QM work! Moreover, neither course is required by Bowdoin, which was your original claim! Compare text for Williams 142 to Bowdoin’s description to 2140. Or don’t, I couldn’t care less.

if you didn't care, you'd have stop replying right now. Glad to know there's a "physicist" who doesn't understand basic undergrad physics structuring. Still never got a response to what your alma mater taught if not the core physics classes, but you're lying anyway, so I guess the details don't matter too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

It is literally teaching the bra ket notation for QM in the chapters. It is clear you are not actually listening to yourself but want to ramble to appear correct. It's getting really tiring.

Because it’s a book on Waves and Optics! Preparing for later QM work! Moreover, neither course is required by Bowdoin, which was your original claim! Compare text for Williams 142 to Bowdoin’s description to 2140. Or don’t, I couldn’t care less.

if you didn't care, you'd have stop replying right now. Glad to know there's a "physicist" who doesn't understand basic undergrad physics structuring. Still never got a response to what your alma mater taught if not the core physics classes, but you're lying anyway, so I guess the details don't matter too much.

My undergrad had more than either but that’s irrelevant.

I don’t care about convincing you but I do care about helping those trying to figure things out about college.

You can get a sense of how deep a class goes by looking at textbooks but also by looking at prerequisites, particularly (for physics) math.

Bowdoin only requires high school level calculus (integral.) Williams physics requires multivariable plus has its own math that introduces ordinary and partial differential equations, numerical methods, and probably linear algebra.

These are significant differences in terms of how deep a student can go, which is one reason why the other poster is so confused about their physics course content differences.

The base Bowdoin program is good for teaching high school physics.

The base Williams program is enough to apply to grad school.

Students at either should take more than the base requirements if wanting grad school or a job doing physics work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Wait, you found the course textbook and still are confused? Wow. It’s a book on waves and optics. It’s a “PRELUDE” to QM. That literally telling you it’s not QM, let alone intermediate QM. Of course it’s relevant, but your claim was this Williams course was their version of Bowdoin’s 2140. It is not. Williams’s version of 2140 is their 142. Williams actual intermediate QM is the more advanced 301.

I think you’re a kid trolling us. No one is this stubborn/wrong/rude. Ha ha, you managed to get replies, yay… Now, off to bed!

It is literally teaching the bra ket notation for QM in the chapters. It is clear you are not actually listening to yourself but want to ramble to appear correct. It's getting really tiring.

Because it’s a book on Waves and Optics! Preparing for later QM work! Moreover, neither course is required by Bowdoin, which was your original claim! Compare text for Williams 142 to Bowdoin’s description to 2140. Or don’t, I couldn’t care less.

if you didn't care, you'd have stop replying right now. Glad to know there's a "physicist" who doesn't understand basic undergrad physics structuring. Still never got a response to what your alma mater taught if not the core physics classes, but you're lying anyway, so I guess the details don't matter too much.

My undergrad had more than either but that’s irrelevant.

I don’t care about convincing you but I do care about helping those trying to figure things out about college.

You can get a sense of how deep a class goes by looking at textbooks but also by looking at prerequisites, particularly (for physics) math.

Bowdoin only requires high school level calculus (integral.) Williams physics requires multivariable plus has its own math that introduces ordinary and partial differential equations, numerical methods, and probably linear algebra.

These are significant differences in terms of how deep a student can go, which is one reason why the other poster is so confused about their physics course content differences.

The base Bowdoin program is good for teaching high school physics.

The base Williams program is enough to apply to grad school.

Students at either should take more than the base requirements if wanting grad school or a job doing physics work.

Multivariable calculus is not rigorous enough for the math needed for graduate study. Both programs are frankly lacking and likely reliant that their physics majors are also math majors. It is shocking how poor both curriculums are.

[Anonymous]

What do you do with a BA in English?

No one cares about Physics. You people need to get a room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
Sounds like what I learned in Intermediate quantum mechanics.... It's just interferometers and wave/particle behavior. I don't know how this is confusing any scientist.

Literally neither are mentioned in the index for the textbook for Williams 202.

What you consider “intermediate quantum mechanics” is what Williams considers introductory modern physics. Intermediate QM is 301, which is very different from 202.

You may be able to do physics, but you are clearly illiterate. Hope you take an English course sometimes soon.

'And since you will say something dumb and waste everyone's time: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pWZVQ6Okis8IPBTMFxooMGSCvlfmvQT[/youtube]. The literal title of their course textbook is "Waves and Oscillations A Prelude to Quantum Mechanics." It is a typical course to transition students to more difficult physics content. It is jarring how little physics content you actually know. The book has much intro QM content. Don't believe the book is for the course, check yourself: https://catalog.williams.edu/phys/detail/?strm=1263&cn=202&crsid=011894&req_year=0

Get a room already.

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