Is UVA's reputation declining?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about 15---> 25-30 as of the late 2010s early 2020s per US News. Seems like you might be having cognitive issues.

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Every year there are more people applying.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about 15---> 25-30 as of the late 2010s early 2020s per US News. Seems like you might be having cognitive issues.

Because I’m not a robot and understand that the context for a number matters—especially since we are discussing reputation—as well as not cherry picking those numbers. Two concepts that are entirely lost on you and your big brain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God forbid a state flagship serves the WHOLE state rather than have a student population that’s 90% from a suburb with the top 10% income earners. Strong academic kids in Norfolk and Farmville have just as much of a right to UVA than just McLean and Langley kids. Same goes for the MoCo UMD posters. You’ve all lost the plot.

Agree. Nova parent with a kid at UVA - most of her friends are OOS or from other places in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about 15---> 25-30 as of the late 2010s early 2020s per US News. Seems like you might be having cognitive issues.

Because I’m not a robot and understand that the context for a number matters—especially since we are discussing reputation—as well as not cherry picking those numbers. Two concepts that are entirely lost on you and your big brain.

Seems like you're having trouble understanding simple math. Very sad.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile VT's ranking continues to climb 20+ places.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about 15---> 25-30 as of the late 2010s early 2020s per US News. Seems like you might be having cognitive issues.

Because I’m not a robot and understand that the context for a number matters—especially since we are discussing reputation—as well as not cherry picking those numbers. Two concepts that are entirely lost on you and your big brain.

Seems like you're having trouble understanding simple math. Very sad.

Yep, you don’t get those concepts. Glad we agree. I’m sure they’ll teach them to you at some point in your schooling, though.

[Anonymous]

USNWR should not be the arbiter of reputation. It should be whether the school provides a quality education for the price and produces quality graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a UVA parent, but good lord, what a dumb question. That USNWR would rank UVA … [checks notes] #24 … out of all the schools in the US, and people would complain that it's declining.

Sometimes I think the primary benefit to the US News rankings is that it acts as a filter for the hundreds of excellent schools outside the top 20, so prestige junkies self-select out of the pool of applicants.

Yes, but you see, that ranking is close to where it has been ranked throughout most of the history of the rankings, particularly the last 30 years, which is clear evidence for its steep decline in reputa—oh wait, never mind, no. That makes no sense.

15--->more competition--->20-25---->25-30

24 =/= 25-30

More competition = not really the 15th best school. The competition already existed, just wasn’t included in the small early rankings, which is why UVA fell back to 20th in the immediate subsequent rankings.

Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about 15---> 25-30 as of the late 2010s early 2020s per US News. Seems like you might be having cognitive issues.

Because I’m not a robot and understand that the context for a number matters—especially since we are discussing reputation—as well as not cherry picking those numbers. Two concepts that are entirely lost on you and your big brain.

Seems like you're having trouble understanding simple math. Very sad.

Yep, you don’t get those concepts. Glad we agree. I’m sure they’ll teach them to you at some point in your schooling, though.

I wish I could hope that you might learn how to count in your schooling at some point but I don't think troglodytes can learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. What has increased is the frustration with getting in, and thus, it just isn’t a discussed option for many. Many frustrated parents on DCUM talk about the state not supporting instate students because they don’t expand UVA and lower their standards.

It will fall to top 50 in 10 years,,

Lack of decent STEM programs including in AI and biotechnology will hurt them and the declining interest in humanities/social Sciences.

Further hurt by lack of interest in MBA as well as AI 's impact on lower demand for lawyers in general doesn't help either their only strong programs.

This.

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UVA has been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997 other than 2000, when it was 28 and 2001 when it was 26. It took small hit when the magazine introduced Pell grant recipients into its formula, then it promptly climbed back. This is not a university “declining” in the rankings. It’s a university holding steady. Remarkably steady, in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid went to Arizona State University over UVA. Said UVA is primarily Virginia residents and being from Virginia, wanted to escape.

Translation: your Kid did not get into UVA

Nope, they did. Not everybody holds UVA on a pedestal.

Well if they did and went to Arizona State instead then I’m sorry they’re idiots and so are you.

^ exactly why people avoid uva

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA has been ranked between 20 and 25 every year since 1997 other than 2000, when it was 28 and 2001 when it was 26. It took small hit when the magazine introduced Pell grant recipients into its formula, then it promptly climbed back. This is not a university “declining” in the rankings. It’s a university holding steady. Remarkably steady, in fact.

I tried this already. There’s no point. It’s like talking to a wall with some of these people.

It’s also been consistently in the top 20 or so on the peer assessment, which is purely reputation. But still doesn’t matter when people have already made up their mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, schools like USC, Michigan, NYU, UC Irvine, UCSD continue to climb in the rankings year after year and are reaching new rankings peaks every single year.

Wasn't it around 21 a few years ago? If anything, it seems like it's on a downward trend.

Anyway, I get the feeling that UVA's increasingly seen on a similar level as UMD. And that's no shade whatsoever at either school. UMD's arguably caught up prestige-wise due to its strong STEM/lower acceptance rates. I think UVA's rep - locally and nationally - is as solid as ever.