Texas tonight--proof that the college system is broken

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they are admitting the very top students from Texas, I think they can do whatever they like. If you live in another state, you should already know that it is very hard to get into Texas-Austin.

Aren't the admissions decisions for Texas kids delayed too though? Imagine being a Texas kid who applied mostly to Texas schools, now in limbo and wondering how many more schools to apply to.

Are you from Texas? It’s really easy to get into other Texas schools. Most UT students could count A&M as a safety, and if they like college towns but are more progressive Texas state is a really nice school too that you can practically walk into. Texan colleges are not hard to get into other than UT.

I'm not (or I wouldn't ask theoretically, I'd be pissed!). I am not sure you are right though, 60% acceptance is not that high. In-state in some state has become increasingly competitive. And kids usually want flagship or one other one level "below".

UT and A&M kinda share the flagship title in Texas (it doesn’t appear that way by stats, but the A&M cult is strong here). The big difference is environment and ideology.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't have to apply or matriculate there. Its not like it will get any better given the priorities for education in Texas among the political leadership

Yeah, education in TX is so lousy its flagship school gets 92,000 applications. Meanwhile the SUNY schools continue to attract almost no one from outside NYS.

Outside of UT Austin, not many apply from outside TX. SUNY schools are good, but located in more rural areas/smaller areas. Of course kids don't apply to an OOS school that is remote/hard to get to, outside of the flagships (For SUNY the closest thing to a Flagship would be Binghamton).

As has been pointed out, numerous times, The University at Buffalo and Stony Brook University are the two flagship schools for New York.

And most people are not Clamouring to attend U of Buffalo---it's a dreary place that gets a blizzard every week for 3-5 months. Not an exciting place at all, no sports, etc. So nope, those two are not places lots of OOS students dream of attending. UT Austin, has many OOS applicants for a variety of reasons (better school than those 2, football, weather, Austin itself, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Where the heck do you live? I live in DC and my teens and friends (a mix of private and public juniors and seniors) from upper NW would love to live in Austin. They're not making college decisions based on abortion care. I mean, really?

I think pp's attitude is a big part of the reason why schools like UT (and Florida, and South Carolina, and so on) are exploding in popularity. Normal people don't think like that. They want to stay away from that mindset.

YUP.
DC liberals: "Texas is bad. BAD i tell you!!!!!."
Their kids: "Mom, you're nuts"

If I had a dollar for every NW DC kid I PERSONALLY know who applied to Texas I could buy myself a Chipotle burrito for lunch today.

You are completely full of shit. This has nothing to do with politics, but almost nobody from my kid's upper NW DC school applied to Texas...nor did any of their friends at Walls, JR, Sidwell and GDS.

How do parents even know this personal business? Creepy.

What's creepy about it?

Kids talk to each other, and some kids (like mine) tell their parents.
Kids know who went to which college rep visits at their school, and gossip about that. (And our guidance counselor screwed up at one point and sent students a list of everyone who had registered for a particular visit, so there's that.)
Kids run into each other on college visits, especially Columbus weekend, Veteran's Day weekend, and spring break. Literally every visit we made, including schools as far away as Colgate and Wake, my son ran into classmates who were also visiting.
Chatty college counselors drop info from time to time. E.g., my son's GC told him that he was one of 12 classmates applying ED1 to a particular school. I think she did it with good intentions (so he would know how competitive it is).
Finally, parents chat. It was our main topic of conversation in the bleachers at hockey games from December to March.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Texas is none of these things. One of the best medical centers in the world is in Houston.

Unless you're referring to a specific type of "medical care".

I'm referring to any female having full access to medical care for themselves. They should not have to leave the state to prevent themselves from dying if they need certain "Medical care"---be it for the main reason or simply because they need it to save their life.

Yes Houston has a great medical center---so do many other states Minnesota for one and the DC area itself.

However, I wouldn't want my DD or any of my kid's female friends to be in Texas (or several other states) now , and I can afford to fly them private jet to get medical care if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they are admitting the very top students from Texas, I think they can do whatever they like. If you live in another state, you should already know that it is very hard to get into Texas-Austin.

Aren't the admissions decisions for Texas kids delayed too though? Imagine being a Texas kid who applied mostly to Texas schools, now in limbo and wondering how many more schools to apply to.

Are you from Texas? It’s really easy to get into other Texas schools. Most UT students could count A&M as a safety, and if they like college towns but are more progressive Texas state is a really nice school too that you can practically walk into. Texan colleges are not hard to get into other than UT.

I'm not (or I wouldn't ask theoretically, I'd be pissed!). I am not sure you are right though, 60% acceptance is not that high. In-state in some state has become increasingly competitive. And kids usually want flagship or one other one level "below".

UT and A&M kinda share the flagship title in Texas (it doesn’t appear that way by stats, but the A&M cult is strong here). The big difference is environment and ideology.

HOWDY!

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Where the heck do you live? I live in DC and my teens and friends (a mix of private and public juniors and seniors) from upper NW would love to live in Austin. They're not making college decisions based on abortion care. I mean, really?

My kids are not making college decisions based on specifically abortion care. They are making it on the fact they have no desire to live in a Red state, where outside of some people in Austin, most are gun loving, right wingers. So just like they have no desire to take a permeant job there after college either. The would like to live somewhere where everyone has more choices in life.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Where the heck do you live? I live in DC and my teens and friends (a mix of private and public juniors and seniors) from upper NW would love to live in Austin. They're not making college decisions based on abortion care. I mean, really?

My kids are not making college decisions based on specifically abortion care. They are making it on the fact they have no desire to live in a Red state, where outside of some people in Austin, most are gun loving, right wingers. So just like they have no desire to take a permeant job there after college either. The would like to live somewhere where everyone has more choices in life.

Cause your child is totally going out into rural areas of Texas while living in Austin. Surely, she just NEEDS to be in random small towns, rather than big cities like Dallas Austin or Houston.

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Anonymous wrote:This makes no sense. It ucks. UCLA gets 120k apps, NYU and Northeastern get 100k. Other colleges can manage, but not Texas?

Incompetency at its finest.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Where the heck do you live? I live in DC and my teens and friends (a mix of private and public juniors and seniors) from upper NW would love to live in Austin. They're not making college decisions based on abortion care. I mean, really?

My kids are not making college decisions based on specifically abortion care. They are making it on the fact they have no desire to live in a Red state, where outside of some people in Austin, most are gun loving, right wingers. So just like they have no desire to take a permeant job there after college either. The would like to live somewhere where everyone has more choices in life.

Cause your child is totally going out into rural areas of Texas while living in Austin. Surely, she just NEEDS to be in random small towns, rather than big cities like Dallas Austin or Houston.

Shhh. Let them poo poo Texas and whatever other states. UT is exploding in popularity, as is the state of Texas as a whole. One of, if not the, fastest growing states in the US over the past decade or so. The growth is crazy - it's becoming crowded and more expensive. And UT is getting an insane number of apps, going up every year. I'm glad when people say they'd "never" want want to move here/apply to UT! Better odds for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:This makes no sense. It ucks. UCLA gets 120k apps, NYU and Northeastern get 100k. Other colleges can manage, but not Texas?

Incompetency at its finest.

Do you work? If you had a 30% increase in your workload, would you be able to maintain the same deadlines for projects?

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like just insane mismanagement by UT's new hire -- particularly the fact that the Texas auto admits didn't get immediately acceptances.

My kid applied to Arizona, OOS but above their cut-offs for auto-admission, and within 24 hours she had her admission letter and a full tuition scholarship. It was so quick that she thought it was the "we've received your application" notification when she saw it pop in the portal.

Especially with test scores, they shold be able to run an auto sort and get their top 10% of applicants admitted immediately, reject their bottom 10% of admits, and then move on from there, but starting with the EA applicants before they do the RDs. It sounds like they just had no system.

Auto admits ARE NOTIFIED as soon as their transcript/rank processes after you apply. So, like, some knew in October. What they are waiting on is their major information and it has been like this for years.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they are admitting the very top students from Texas, I think they can do whatever they like. If you live in another state, you should already know that it is very hard to get into Texas-Austin.

Aren't the admissions decisions for Texas kids delayed too though? Imagine being a Texas kid who applied mostly to Texas schools, now in limbo and wondering how many more schools to apply to.

Are you from Texas? It’s really easy to get into other Texas schools. Most UT students could count A&M as a safety, and if they like college towns but are more progressive Texas state is a really nice school too that you can practically walk into. Texan colleges are not hard to get into other than UT.

I'm not (or I wouldn't ask theoretically, I'd be pissed!). I am not sure you are right though, 60% acceptance is not that high. In-state in some state has become increasingly competitive. And kids usually want flagship or one other one level "below".

UT and A&M kinda share the flagship title in Texas (it doesn’t appear that way by stats, but the A&M cult is strong here). The big difference is environment and ideology.

No, they don't really.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that universities in places like Texas were going to DIE?!!!!!! That no female EVER would apply to somewhere in that regressive hellhole?

Well my DD and all of her friends would never apply there. Same for my DS and his friends (male or female), because well, they don't want to live in a regressive state where it's challenging to get medical care you or your loved ones want.

Where the heck do you live? I live in DC and my teens and friends (a mix of private and public juniors and seniors) from upper NW would love to live in Austin. They're not making college decisions based on abortion care. I mean, really?

I think pp's attitude is a big part of the reason why schools like UT (and Florida, and South Carolina, and so on) are exploding in popularity. Normal people don't think like that. They want to stay away from that mindset.

YUP.
DC liberals: "Texas is bad. BAD i tell you!!!!!."
Their kids: "Mom, you're nuts"

If I had a dollar for every NW DC kid I PERSONALLY know who applied to Texas I could buy myself a Chipotle burrito for lunch today.

You are completely full of shit. This has nothing to do with politics, but almost nobody from my kid's upper NW DC school applied to Texas...nor did any of their friends at Walls, JR, Sidwell and GDS.

How do parents even know this personal business? Creepy.

What's creepy about it?

Kids talk to each other, and some kids (like mine) tell their parents.
Kids know who went to which college rep visits at their school, and gossip about that. (And our guidance counselor screwed up at one point and sent students a list of everyone who had registered for a particular visit, so there's that.)
Kids run into each other on college visits, especially Columbus weekend, Veteran's Day weekend, and spring break. Literally every visit we made, including schools as far away as Colgate and Wake, my son ran into classmates who were also visiting.
Chatty college counselors drop info from time to time. E.g., my son's GC told him that he was one of 12 classmates applying ED1 to a particular school. I think she did it with good intentions (so he would know how competitive it is).
Finally, parents chat. It was our main topic of conversation in the bleachers at hockey games from December to March.

This isn't normal.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they are admitting the very top students from Texas, I think they can do whatever they like. If you live in another state, you should already know that it is very hard to get into Texas-Austin.

Aren't the admissions decisions for Texas kids delayed too though? Imagine being a Texas kid who applied mostly to Texas schools, now in limbo and wondering how many more schools to apply to.

Are you from Texas? It’s really easy to get into other Texas schools. Most UT students could count A&M as a safety, and if they like college towns but are more progressive Texas state is a really nice school too that you can practically walk into. Texan colleges are not hard to get into other than UT.

I'm not (or I wouldn't ask theoretically, I'd be pissed!). I am not sure you are right though, 60% acceptance is not that high. In-state in some state has become increasingly competitive. And kids usually want flagship or one other one level "below".

UT and A&M kinda share the flagship title in Texas (it doesn’t appear that way by stats, but the A&M cult is strong here). The big difference is environment and ideology.

No, they don't really.

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Another out of state parent who has no idea what they’re talking about^

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they are admitting the very top students from Texas, I think they can do whatever they like. If you live in another state, you should already know that it is very hard to get into Texas-Austin.

Aren't the admissions decisions for Texas kids delayed too though? Imagine being a Texas kid who applied mostly to Texas schools, now in limbo and wondering how many more schools to apply to.

Are you from Texas? It’s really easy to get into other Texas schools. Most UT students could count A&M as a safety, and if they like college towns but are more progressive Texas state is a really nice school too that you can practically walk into. Texan colleges are not hard to get into other than UT.

A&M is actually pretty hard to get in to. Lots of TX kids get denied, especially in difficult majors. (A&M has rolling admissions and top 10% auto admit). A&M is not a safety for anyone.
They say they have a 60% admit rate outside of auto admit, but that's not really true, because they offer alternative pathways to admission that are not main campus admits and include that in their admit rate.