Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be ridiculous. Of course Americans are upset about immigration. Parents don’t want their schools overcrowded from illegal immigration.

+1
And to the OP - the issue is ILLEGAL immigration.

Stop gaslighting. You don’t want any more brown or Black people, legal or not, in your neighborhood, town, county, state, or country. Stop using your kids as political pawns for your bigotry. Kids don’t have a problem with new or different kids, unless their parents force them to. I say this as someone in 3rd grade in the South when our school was desegregated and as parent of 3 children who benefited from very diverse public schools. You guys are saying the same shit as every bigot in history.

I am a “brown” daughter of immigrants. I’m a Democrat and will be voting for Harris, but you’re being myopic if you think everyone concerned about the effects of the migrant crisis is concerned because they’re racist.

I live in NYC. The city is spending literally billions of dollars of taxpayer money on housing, feeding, and caring for migrants. NYC had to institute across the board cuts to all city programs and services to pay for this. The migrants are all over the subway and the sidewalks panhandling, often with children (who are not in school, and therefore may eventually become taxpayer liabilities as adults) in tow. And the kids who are in enrolled in school (as they should be) are consuming resources paid for by US citizen taxpayers, and because resources are finite, taking them from the children of US citizen taxpayers.

You might not personally care about this, but it’s insane for you not to realize or care that other people do. Maybe for the most hardened MAGA types it’s a question of racism, but not for everyone. Many Democrats are concerned too. And acting like this isn’t a problem is not going to help Democrats get elected.

[Anonymous]

USA has feared immigrants since the day after they immigrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t be ridiculous. Of course Americans are upset about immigration. Parents don’t want their schools overcrowded from illegal immigration.

+1
And to the OP - the issue is ILLEGAL immigration.

Stop gaslighting. You don’t want any more brown or Black people, legal or not, in your neighborhood, town, county, state, or country. Stop using your kids as political pawns for your bigotry. Kids don’t have a problem with new or different kids, unless their parents force them to. I say this as someone in 3rd grade in the South when our school was desegregated and as parent of 3 children who benefited from very diverse public schools. You guys are saying the same shit as every bigot in history.

I am a “brown” daughter of immigrants. I’m a Democrat and will be voting for Harris, but you’re being myopic if you think everyone concerned about the effects of the migrant crisis is concerned because they’re racist.

I live in NYC. The city is spending literally billions of dollars of taxpayer money on housing, feeding, and caring for migrants. NYC had to institute across the board cuts to all city programs and services to pay for this. The migrants are all over the subway and the sidewalks panhandling, often with children (who are not in school, and therefore may eventually become taxpayer liabilities as adults) in tow. And the kids who are in enrolled in school (as they should be) are consuming resources paid for by US citizen taxpayers, and because resources are finite, taking them from the children of US citizen taxpayers.

You might not personally care about this, but it’s insane for you not to realize or care that other people do. Maybe for the most hardened MAGA types it’s a question of racism, but not for everyone. Many Democrats are concerned too. And acting like this isn’t a problem is not going to help Democrats get elected.

+1

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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The construction industry is a joke. As the article states, it has resisted automation for decades, hoping to keep sucking on zero skill labor pools that are allowed in by corrupt politicos. If the border were secured, these industries would do what they need to do... exit the 19th century.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

The construction industry is a joke. As the article states, it has resisted automation for decades, hoping to keep sucking on zero skill labor pools that are allowed in by corrupt politicos. If the border were secured, these industries would do what they need to do... exit the 19th century.

There's not a labor shortage, there's a livable wage shortage.

If your business can't pay a livable wage, then your business is a failure. That's how capitalism works.

If you base your business on workers who aren't making a living wage because as illegal immigrants, they have no rights or are afraid to assert them, that's a bad business plan

[Anonymous]

I want rules followed in this country. I want people who litter and speed to get tickets. I want people who commit worse crimes to be imprisoned. I want people who want to immigrate to the country to wait in line and follow the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The construction industry is a joke. As the article states, it has resisted automation for decades, hoping to keep sucking on zero skill labor pools that are allowed in by corrupt politicos. If the border were secured, these industries would do what they need to do... exit the 19th century.

There's not a labor shortage, there's a livable wage shortage.

If your business can't pay a livable wage, then your business is a failure. That's how capitalism works.

If you base your business on workers who aren't making a living wage because as illegal immigrants, they have no rights or are afraid to assert them, that's a bad business plan

It's not that businesses can't pay a living wage. It's that they do everything in their power not to. That's why we have multi billion dollar businesses like Walmart running workshops for their employees to teach them how to apply for food stamps .

I also they believe these businesses are creating and pushing out these talking points questioning how you're going to get your blueberries or whether you want to pay $10 for a carton of strawberries every time the subject of deportation comes up. It is a complete scam. These companies are robbing tax payers blind, taking advantage of vulnerable people and then gaslighting regular Americans into believing this is the only system that will work. Industries will not crumble and the sky will not fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t be ridiculous. Of course Americans are upset about immigration. Parents don’t want their schools overcrowded from illegal immigration.

+1
And to the OP - the issue is ILLEGAL immigration.

Stop gaslighting. You don’t want any more brown or Black people, legal or not, in your neighborhood, town, county, state, or country. Stop using your kids as political pawns for your bigotry. Kids don’t have a problem with new or different kids, unless their parents force them to. I say this as someone in 3rd grade in the South when our school was desegregated and as parent of 3 children who benefited from very diverse public schools. You guys are saying the same shit as every bigot in history.

I am a “brown” daughter of immigrants. I’m a Democrat and will be voting for Harris, but you’re being myopic if you think everyone concerned about the effects of the migrant crisis is concerned because they’re racist.

I live in NYC. The city is spending literally billions of dollars of taxpayer money on housing, feeding, and caring for migrants. NYC had to institute across the board cuts to all city programs and services to pay for this. The migrants are all over the subway and the sidewalks panhandling, often with children (who are not in school, and therefore may eventually become taxpayer liabilities as adults) in tow. And the kids who are in enrolled in school (as they should be) are consuming resources paid for by US citizen taxpayers, and because resources are finite, taking them from the children of US citizen taxpayers.

You might not personally care about this, but it’s insane for you not to realize or care that other people do. Maybe for the most hardened MAGA types it’s a question of racism, but not for everyone. Many Democrats are concerned too. And acting like this isn’t a problem is not going to help Democrats get elected.

+1 Thank you for your well stated, accurate post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The construction industry is a joke. As the article states, it has resisted automation for decades, hoping to keep sucking on zero skill labor pools that are allowed in by corrupt politicos. If the border were secured, these industries would do what they need to do... exit the 19th century.

In the 19th Century you had skilled craftsmen making vernacular buildings with durable and environmentally friendly materials that were locally sourced. Its exactly what we need to return to.

The oversized houses, slapped together by the cheapest labor from the Home Depot parking lot, using the cheapest materials is a uniquely late 20th century problem.

[Anonymous]

Bloomberg fact-checked Trump's appearance at the Economic Club of Chicago.

The result makes quite free with "This requires context," a phrase it uses to mean "If you really torture the meaning of words and facts, there is some sense in which this is not a baldfaced lie." But when it comes to immigration, it says, straight out, that Trump's claim "is false."

https://infodisplay.infodesk.com/item/bacb1b80-0a85-42bf-a072-4dc513b44a86.html?CU=frb5969&UID=[e-mail]&templateId=1785&APP=6

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From US Gov.

TPS is a temporary benefit that does not lead to lawful permanent resident status or give any other immigration status.



https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/temporary-protected-status



So No, they are not legal immigrants. They do not have green cards. They are here under Temporary protected status. Yes, they are allowed to be here for now, but it is not implied they are legal immigrants who will be allowed to stay in the US when TPS runs out.

There are many types of legal immigrants. They are allowed to be here under the law. They are therefore legal.

Legal temporarily. TPS does not imply any access to green cards or permanent legal status. Once TPS runs out, they may not stay here per the law the way it is written. TPS confers them no legal status once over.

DP. That is correct that if TPS runs out, they have no legal status. But right now there are many here that have current TPS and they are not “illegal immigrants”.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. We can let people with work visas and we can let in people in a controlled fashion for humanitarian reasons. The mistake that the Biden Harris administration made was not being selective enough and increasing every sort of immigration both documented and undocumented, which has put incredible strain on resources and incentivized people coming here even if they have no claim to be here, because they They know whether they come in via parole, TPS, illegally, or whatever, they are almost certainly going to be able to stay. So more and more come.

[Anonymous]

No vetting by Kamala/Biden on those crossing the border.

Three more apartment buildings were seized and taken over by Tren de Aragua. Local residents are shoved out.
Many of the units are being used for prostituting young girls. It is sad.

[Anonymous]

11:17 again--

The apartment buildings seized were in San Antonio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want rules followed in this country. I want people who litter and speed to get tickets. I want people who commit worse crimes to be imprisoned. I want people who want to immigrate to the country to wait in line and follow the rules.

+1 and ppl who immigrate should have sponsors.