What typically happens to a violent kid in the classroom?
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Anonymous
I happened to my daughter and after running in a wall, I started to file title 9 complaints with the county because the boy was only going after girls. My kid got her class moved, nothing happened with the boy/ |
Anonymous
I laughed at hold a meeting with admin-you can’t even get an admin on the phone at my kids school |
Anonymous
Police don't help. And school DGAF. |
Anonymous
Yup the other kids matter too and teachers |
Anonymous
Ex-teacher and SN parent here. This tracks with my experience. |
Anonymous
New poster here. MOST COMMON PROFILE: Usually it's a profile involving ADHD and ASD (most autism diagnoses usually includes inattention in some form). The patients are emotionally dysregulated and cannot control their emotions when something goes "wrong". With meds and executive functioning training for the ADHD and behavioral therapy for the ASD, the kids grow up to be functional adults. And by functional, it doesn't mean they're the ideal primary caregiver to children! But they can get jobs, marry, and have their spouse take care of their kids. I know several males like this in my social circle... who sometimes have problematic children. There are other diagnoses that can be at play, including very serious personality disorders that do not go away. In such cases, the adult had best not entangle other humans in their daily lives. REASON IT CROPS UP IN ELEMENTARY: 1. It's a burden to diagnose kids young, because the formal psychological assessments are very detailed and complex, so at best a very young child receives a cursory examination and a tentative diagnosis, possibly not the right one; 2. Or the parents find the process too expensive and push it back for as long as they can; it's $5K for a full neuropsychological evaluation at a private practice, often not reimbursed by health insurance. 3. Or the parents aren't prepared to hear their child has issues and at least one of them pushes back, most often the father, who is usually not the primary parent, and who stays in denial for longer than the mother, if she's the primary parent. It's a classic scenario where each parent blames the other, and it's one of the reasons couples with children with special needs have a higher divorce risk. ACTION TIME: 1. There are waiting lists to get a child evaluated by the right psychologist that can be 6 months to a year. 2. The school psychologist does not have the training or the time to do the full neuropsychological evaluation that lasts for 8 hours over 2 days. The school can perform shorter, ersatz assessments, but they won't be the official ones done by psychologists with PhDs in hospital settings or private practices, and they will not provide nearly as much information and insight. However, when it's urgent, it can act as placeholder, with a lengthier assessment used to confirm findings. 3. Even with a diagnosis and reports of violence, the school system can take a long time to find appropriate placement, because often special needs programs are FULL and there are no appropriate spots left; or again, because one or both parents are not on board. |
Anonymous
| ADHD does not equal violent. Such minimizing bs. |
Anonymous
Fetal alcohol syndrome. There is was a kindergarten kid in my DC’s school who only made it halfway through the year. He was quickly removed to a school better able to accommodate him. I felt so bad for the kid. Life can be so very unfair sometimes. |
Anonymous
Ugh. Do you think a violent kindergartner is worth more than every kid he attacks? The sting of shame might actually spur his parents do more to curb their child’s violence, to protect their own egos. |
Anonymous
| In FCPS at least, the special ed classrooms and schools are full running waitlists. They can't move a child out of gen ed unless there is a place for him to go. |
Anonymous
That’s a great use of bold, you are exonerated! Once your kid attacks, it’s too late, and he’s caused damage to another child, as he clearly has done for years. Why is that ok? Why can’t you shoulder the responsibility you took on? Why? Why is a single-digit-aged child doing your job for you by saying no after he attacks? |
Anonymous
This is true and the other truth is that out of control children who are violent in ES are typically checked only by another kid who beats them bloody after they get fed up. That the parents understand. They understand and taken nothing seriously first. They do not consider using their savings or taking loans for proper assessments or for attorneys to force a better placement. They. Do. Not. Care. If your child is seriously hurt by theirs: they blame the county; the school admin; the teacher — and on some level the victim and their family for getting hurt, for not evading an attack. It is what it is. The parents have enormous culpability because very few try their utmost to help their violent child. You wouldn’t have so many defensive moms here - not even on the special needs board, where the conversation is necessarily different - who clearly monitor threads and shriek about how it’s just not something they can fix. It takes a village, where their child is the village criminal, the school is the educator and law enforcement, and the parent of the violent kid are the village victims. |
Anonymous
The better placements are *full*. No lawyer force a contract school to magically make room for a kid. They are allowed to turn down kids also, and frequently do. FCPS CSS classrooms are *full*. FCPS leaves kids in gen ed settings until they have a place to move them. You sound really ignorant about the resources available for these kids. Advocate for more contract schools and more self-contained public classrooms. |
Anonymous
Could be undiagnosed. Or could be abused at home. Or could be a psychopath. You have no way of knowing. |
Anonymous
The police? Get ahold of yourself. Seriously. |