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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"There doesn't seem to be any action"

How in the world would you know what action has or hasn't been taken?

My kid was that kid. BEGGED AND PLEADED for him to be removed to a special school. It never happened. By all means, bug the administration, I'm sure his parents don't want him to hurt other kids either. [/quote]

what is his diagnosis?

I know there’s been no action because the student is in the classroom and my child continues to be hit. [/quote]

Why would I tell you my kid's DX? You aren't a SN parent clearly.

Also - that doesn't mean there's been no action. Don't get me wrong, your kid being hit is [b]completely [/b]unacceptable, but that doesn't mean the parents aren't doing anything. [/quote]

It’s an anonymous forum and I’m trying to understand what kind of diagnosis would make a child violent or hit others. [/quote]

New poster here.

MOST COMMON PROFILE:
Usually it's a profile involving ADHD and ASD (most autism diagnoses usually includes inattention in some form). The patients are emotionally dysregulated and cannot control their emotions when something goes "wrong". With meds and executive functioning training for the ADHD and behavioral therapy for the ASD, the kids grow up to be functional adults. And by functional, it doesn't mean they're the ideal primary caregiver to children! But they can get jobs, marry, and have their spouse take care of their kids. I know several males like this in my social circle... who sometimes have problematic children. There are other diagnoses that can be at play, including very serious personality disorders that do not go away. In such cases, the adult had best not entangle other humans in their daily lives.

REASON IT CROPS UP IN ELEMENTARY:
1. It's a burden to diagnose kids young, because the formal psychological assessments are very detailed and complex, so at best a very young child receives a cursory examination and a tentative diagnosis, possibly not the right one; 
2. Or the parents find the process too expensive and push it back for as long as they can; it's $5K for a full neuropsychological evaluation at a private practice, often not reimbursed by health insurance.
3. Or the parents aren't prepared to hear their child has issues and at least one of them pushes back, most often the father, who is usually not the primary parent, and who stays in denial for longer than the mother, if she's the primary parent. It's a classic scenario where each parent blames the other, and it's one of the reasons couples with children with special needs have a higher divorce risk.

ACTION TIME:
1. There are waiting lists to get a child evaluated by the right psychologist that can be 6 months to a year.
2. The school psychologist does not have the training or the time to do the full neuropsychological evaluation that lasts for 8 hours over 2 days. The school can perform shorter, ersatz assessments, but they won't be the official ones done by psychologists with PhDs in hospital settings or private practices, and they will not provide nearly as much information and insight. However, when it's urgent, it can act as placeholder, with a lengthier assessment used to confirm findings.
3. Even with a diagnosis and reports of violence, the school system can take a long time to find appropriate placement, because often special needs programs are FULL and there are no appropriate spots left; or again, because one or both parents are not on board.

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