Vance’s Latest Misogynistic View

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vance is intelligent and articulate. I can see why dems constantly disparage and lie about him.

He’s reasonably intelligent, not all that articulate though. No need to lie about him — just listening to him share his thoughts and priorities is cringe-y enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vance is intelligent and articulate. I can see why dems constantly disparage and lie about him.

He’s just another well-educated but mediocre conservative sociopath who will do and say whatever it takes to con bigots and paranoids to vote for him while he kisses the asses of mega donors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I genuinely hate this man. And I hate how he talks about women, his wife, and now his wife's family.

Why did his South Asian mother-in-law have to take leave from her prof job for a full year to move in with them and be a full-time caregiver for their baby? Why didn't JD quit his job for a year to be a full-time caregiver. Why is he joking on a podcast that this is a hidden benefit of marrying an Indian woman?

He just gives the biggest ick ever...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/j-d-vance-weird-thoughts-211007773.html

Did you bother to listen to the entire clip? She didn't "have" to take leave - she wanted to. If I had the opportunity to care for my own (hypothetical) grandchildren, I would jump at the chance. She then returned to her professorship. Sounds like she was in a very fortunate position to make this kind of choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Postmenopausal females" -- and they wonder why we call them weird. What a psychotic way to refer to older women.

Does he refer to his mother this way? Will he refer to his wife this way when she hits that stage? Weirdo.

He gives me incel vibes.

+1

His wife must have some serious issues to consent to a relationship with this POS.

I wonder how his mother-in-law will vote? And what family holiday dinners will be like going forward.

As for his wife, I think she’s worked hard to get Vance this far, and probably wholeheartedly supports most of it, although it can’t be winning her points with her suburban neighbors. I do think, though, that this might not be the first relationship where a spouse reveals who they really are after marriage and kids. I’ve wondered before why Usha quit her job instead of taking a leave of absence until after the election results were in.

What a strange thing to wonder. You realize that many women - and some men - decide to leave their careers in order to raise their children, right? Nothing odd about that whatsoever.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Postmenopausal females" -- and they wonder why we call them weird. What a psychotic way to refer to older women.

Why do these people have difficulty using the noun woman instead of the adjective female when discussing women?

It’s WOMEN, JD. Go ahead and try to say it.

Funny that none of you will acknowledge that Vance didn't make that comment. The guy interviewing him did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion.

So are you saying that the government should mandate that all employees get a 1 year sabbatical for childcare? I’ve never seen that as a Republican proposal…

Hot damn would be awesome!

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It would. I've never seen Democrats make this proposal either...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion.

I do too. Totally.

I would also like to point out that this audio is clearly edited... who knows what is spliced or missing. And, it is an article from Salon, so that makes it even more questionable.
Having said that, if advocating for having a grandparent assist with the care of a newborn infant is misogynistic, call me a misogynist. I like when he pointed out that she could have just continued working and given some of her salary to help them out, but she chose to help with the care itself.
And, I say this as someone who is currently in this exact position.... and I'm not Indian. A grandmother who is lucky enough to help with the care of her grandchild during the critical first years of development. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

+100
It's beyond telling that liberals are objecting to his point - that having a grandparent care for your kids is a wonderful thing. My own mom did something very similar and we all benefitted from it. My kids grew so close to her and didn't have to attend daycare. Bonus all around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think he was trying to make the point that caring for a child is important and worth taking time off from even a high level profession, but if so he did a horrible job of conveying the thought. Instead of being relatable, he's revolting.

Also it's not the sole purpose of post menopausal women and is pretty elitist because most people are forced to choose work over staying with a child.

If he didn't mean to be discussing this as the sole purpose of the post-menopausal female, then he could have tried not calling it the sole purpose of the post-menopausal female. At some point you have to believe what he actually says.

You'll save a lot on dental bills with those old crones. Just feed them mush -- those baby-carrying arms still work, amirite?

Again, he did not say those words - the podcast host did. But do continue with your outrage.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with his core premise—- it’s much better , in most cases, for a child to be raised by parents/grandparents vs daycare. Universal daycare is what is eww in this discussion.

So are you saying that the government should mandate that all employees get a 1 year sabbatical for childcare? I’ve never seen that as a Republican proposal…

Hot damn would be awesome!

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It would. I've never seen Democrats make this proposal either...

As much as I would like this kind of expansion, PAID family leave is so much more important for middle class and the working poor.

We don’t have that yet either.

Democrats DID propose paid family leave. Do you know what happened? Or who blocked this bill?

Can you guess?

This week, Democrats in Washington re-upped a push to create a national program to give every worker access to paid family and medical leave.

"After 10 years fighting for paid leave, we are still the only industrialized nation without this essential program," said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.

A law that lets workers take unpaid time off to take care of their loved ones or their own health — the Family and Medical Leave Act — recently reached its 30th anniversary.

Now, Gillibrand and Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., are putting forward an updated version of the Family and Medical Insurance Leave, or FAMILY, Act, first introduced in Congress in 2013, which would provide for paid leave.

"Thirty years ago, we broke ground by enshrining the Family and Medical Leave Act into law, providing unpaid family and medical leave for working Americans," DeLauro said in a statement, referencing the law passed under President Bill Clinton.

"Let's break ground again by making it paid," DeLauro said.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/05/18/what-democrats-national-paid-family-leave-plan-could-mean-for-workers.html

[Anonymous]

As a post menopausal female, I’ve read a bunch of books on the anthropology of menopause. The interviewer framed it all backward - the question isn’t why post menopausal women exist, the question is why menopause exists. Why don’t human women go on bearing children into old age? Other species do. The reason is that it benefits human beings, human societies, human families, for women to have a life stage where they do things other than mothering children. Sure, that can be taking care of grandbabies. But there are all sorts of roles older women played in pre-historic cultures - leader, healer, teacher. Just like post erectile dysfunction men. And those roles are good for human survival.

[Anonymous]

Why is he on a podcast with another dude talking about women’s menstruation at all? That’s super weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Postmenopausal females" -- and they wonder why we call them weird. What a psychotic way to refer to older women.

Does he refer to his mother this way? Will he refer to his wife this way when she hits that stage? Weirdo.

He gives me incel vibes.

+1

His wife must have some serious issues to consent to a relationship with this POS.

I wonder how his mother-in-law will vote? And what family holiday dinners will be like going forward.

As for his wife, I think she’s worked hard to get Vance this far, and probably wholeheartedly supports most of it, although it can’t be winning her points with her suburban neighbors. I do think, though, that this might not be the first relationship where a spouse reveals who they really are after marriage and kids. I’ve wondered before why Usha quit her job instead of taking a leave of absence until after the election results were in.

What a strange thing to wonder. You realize that many women - and some men - decide to leave their careers in order to raise their children, right? Nothing odd about that whatsoever.
DP

She quit when her husband accepted the VP job for Trump — even if the purported reason was raising their children. I find it curious that she decided to give up her independent income before her husband’s next job is a done deal. Many people would do that. Many people would not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Postmenopausal females" -- and they wonder why we call them weird. What a psychotic way to refer to older women.

Does he refer to his mother this way? Will he refer to his wife this way when she hits that stage? Weirdo.

He gives me incel vibes.

+1

His wife must have some serious issues to consent to a relationship with this POS.

I wonder how his mother-in-law will vote? And what family holiday dinners will be like going forward.

As for his wife, I think she’s worked hard to get Vance this far, and probably wholeheartedly supports most of it, although it can’t be winning her points with her suburban neighbors. I do think, though, that this might not be the first relationship where a spouse reveals who they really are after marriage and kids. I’ve wondered before why Usha quit her job instead of taking a leave of absence until after the election results were in.

What a strange thing to wonder. You realize that many women - and some men - decide to leave their careers in order to raise their children, right? Nothing odd about that whatsoever.
DP

She quit when her husband accepted the VP job for Trump — even if the purported reason was raising their children. I find it curious that she decided to give up her independent income before her husband’s next job is a done deal. Many people would do that. Many people would not.

It's expected in Republican circles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he was trying to make the point that caring for a child is important and worth taking time off from even a high level profession, but if so he did a horrible job of conveying the thought. Instead of being relatable, he's revolting.

Also it's not the sole purpose of post menopausal women and is pretty elitist because most people are forced to choose work over staying with a child.

If he didn't mean to be discussing this as the sole purpose of the post-menopausal female, then he could have tried not calling it the sole purpose of the post-menopausal female. At some point you have to believe what he actually says.

You'll save a lot on dental bills with those old crones. Just feed them mush -- those baby-carrying arms still work, amirite?

Again, he did not say those words - the podcast host did. But do continue with your outrage.
DP

Why is he hanging out with someone who talks like that to a national audience? Bad judgment.

And why did he agree with the host? Even worse judgment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Postmenopausal females" -- and they wonder why we call them weird. What a psychotic way to refer to older women.

Why do these people have difficulty using the noun woman instead of the adjective female when discussing women?

It’s WOMEN, JD. Go ahead and try to say it.

Funny that none of you will acknowledge that Vance didn't make that comment. The guy interviewing him did.

Two conservative guys had a weird cringy podcast conversation judging the value of women based on how the women serve them. There was no disagreement, not even a “yes, but …” from Vance. He agreed that his mother in law’s value was her childcare contribution.