4 year old boy won't stop peeing all around the house

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Anonymous wrote:Also, try to assess whether there's stress at school. If there's a bully or a conflict you don't know about, it can make a child regress in their potty-training.


I thought about this, but he seems fine, and he's very verbal. He tells us all kinds of things about school. He even notices stuff about his teacher that most kids may be unable to articulate. For examples there was something his teacher did at circle time when we toured the school i.e. passing around a candle and I asked him if she does that a lot and he said she only does that when new people come He said "when new humans come teacher is different, her is nice and does fun things."



Nice is different????????!!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, try to assess whether there's stress at school. If there's a bully or a conflict you don't know about, it can make a child regress in their potty-training.


I thought about this, but he seems fine, and he's very verbal. He tells us all kinds of things about school. He even notices stuff about his teacher that most kids may be unable to articulate. For examples there was something his teacher did at circle time when we toured the school i.e. passing around a candle and I asked him if she does that a lot and he said she only does that when new people come He said "when new humans come teacher is different, her is nice and does fun things."



I have a 4 year old and he'd never speak like that. The phrasing, sentence structure, bad grammar and the actual words used are just all wrong. My ds isn't the most verbal, but at 4 pretty much the only things he gets wrong would be present vs past tense (chooses the wrong word) or he uses the wrong plural word (like mouses instead of mice). And no, my ds would definitely be able to articulate that they do more fun activities when "visitors" are present. He'd never say "new humans" because we aren't aliens.

I'd get a consult with a doctor. I think there is something wrong.


Agree here. My DS didn’t even talk til 4.5 but it was full grammatically correct sentences when he did
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, try to assess whether there's stress at school. If there's a bully or a conflict you don't know about, it can make a child regress in their potty-training.


I thought about this, but he seems fine, and he's very verbal. He tells us all kinds of things about school. He even notices stuff about his teacher that most kids may be unable to articulate. For examples there was something his teacher did at circle time when we toured the school i.e. passing around a candle and I asked him if she does that a lot and he said she only does that when new people come He said "when new humans come teacher is different, her is nice and does fun things."



I have a 4 year old and he'd never speak like that. The phrasing, sentence structure, bad grammar and the actual words used are just all wrong. My ds isn't the most verbal, but at 4 pretty much the only things he gets wrong would be present vs past tense (chooses the wrong word) or he uses the wrong plural word (like mouses instead of mice). And no, my ds would definitely be able to articulate that they do more fun activities when "visitors" are present. He'd never say "new humans" because we aren't aliens.

I'd get a consult with a doctor. I think there is something wrong.


Agree here. My DS didn’t even talk til 4.5 but it was full grammatically correct sentences when he did


You guys are insufferable. The kid is bilingual and didn't qualify for speech by early intervention. He's going to be fine.
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Anonymous wrote:He has been potty trained for over a year. DH and I have caught in several times in the act. His favorite spot is on the side of a sofa chair but he also pees in other places. Once DH caught him with his pants down in the master bedroom. We have carpets!! He doesn't do this @ school. We are so furious with him and it's expensive to get the carpets shampooed. I have a shampoo cleaner but no energy to keep cleaning the floors. The TV room smells like urine sooo bad. Why why why is this happening It's my birthday today and it just happened ! I am not having anymore kids after this. two and done two and done!! I think I need to repeat this all day so I can keep calm.


Sorry, but this calls for few good swats on his bare bottom and he would lose every privilege and every toy would be put away until he earned them back never, ever again urinating any where but in the toilet.




No we do not hit children. That is the wrong wrong answer for this.

UGH! NO!



I didn't say hit, I said a few swats on his bottom. Your idiotic gentle parenting is a collosal failure with an entire generation of horridly spoiled brats who urinate anywhere they please.


Would you “swat” a dependent elderly person in your care if they had an accident or even willfully urinated somewhere other than the toilet? No, because they don’t have full control over their mind or body, and that would be elder abuse.

Tell me how it’s not child abuse, but it would be elder abuse. Go on, make the case.

-NP
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, try to assess whether there's stress at school. If there's a bully or a conflict you don't know about, it can make a child regress in their potty-training.


I thought about this, but he seems fine, and he's very verbal. He tells us all kinds of things about school. He even notices stuff about his teacher that most kids may be unable to articulate. For examples there was something his teacher did at circle time when we toured the school i.e. passing around a candle and I asked him if she does that a lot and he said she only does that when new people come He said "when new humans come teacher is different, her is nice and does fun things."



I have a 4 year old and he'd never speak like that. The phrasing, sentence structure, bad grammar and the actual words used are just all wrong. My ds isn't the most verbal, but at 4 pretty much the only things he gets wrong would be present vs past tense (chooses the wrong word) or he uses the wrong plural word (like mouses instead of mice). And no, my ds would definitely be able to articulate that they do more fun activities when "visitors" are present. He'd never say "new humans" because we aren't aliens.

I'd get a consult with a doctor. I think there is something wrong.


Agree here. My DS didn’t even talk til 4.5 but it was full grammatically correct sentences when he did


You guys are insufferable. The kid is bilingual and didn't qualify for speech by early intervention. He's going to be fine.


The reason people are saying this is because the OP gave these examples to try to prove that her kid is advanced, which clearly (to most of us) is not the case. It also could indicate some type of problem that might warrant an evaluation.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has been potty trained for over a year. DH and I have caught in several times in the act. His favorite spot is on the side of a sofa chair but he also pees in other places. Once DH caught him with his pants down in the master bedroom. We have carpets!! He doesn't do this @ school. We are so furious with him and it's expensive to get the carpets shampooed. I have a shampoo cleaner but no energy to keep cleaning the floors. The TV room smells like urine sooo bad. Why why why is this happening It's my birthday today and it just happened ! I am not having anymore kids after this. two and done two and done!! I think I need to repeat this all day so I can keep calm.


Sorry, but this calls for few good swats on his bare bottom and he would lose every privilege and every toy would be put away until he earned them back never, ever again urinating any where but in the toilet.




No we do not hit children. That is the wrong wrong answer for this.

UGH! NO!



I didn't say hit, I said a few swats on his bottom. Your idiotic gentle parenting is a collosal failure with an entire generation of horridly spoiled brats who urinate anywhere they please.


Would you “swat” a dependent elderly person in your care if they had an accident or even willfully urinated somewhere other than the toilet? No, because they don’t have full control over their mind or body, and that would be elder abuse.

Tell me how it’s not child abuse, but it would be elder abuse. Go on, make the case.

-NP


This kid isn’t having accidents. He’s running away from his parents when they tell him no and then deliberately urinating on their belongings or in their private spaces as a type of “FU” to them.
Anonymous
I would start making him clean it up OP. It will be less fun than peeing all over the place at home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, try to assess whether there's stress at school. If there's a bully or a conflict you don't know about, it can make a child regress in their potty-training.


I thought about this, but he seems fine, and he's very verbal. He tells us all kinds of things about school. He even notices stuff about his teacher that most kids may be unable to articulate. For examples there was something his teacher did at circle time when we toured the school i.e. passing around a candle and I asked him if she does that a lot and he said she only does that when new people come He said "when new humans come teacher is different, her is nice and does fun things."



I have a 4 year old and he'd never speak like that. The phrasing, sentence structure, bad grammar and the actual words used are just all wrong. My ds isn't the most verbal, but at 4 pretty much the only things he gets wrong would be present vs past tense (chooses the wrong word) or he uses the wrong plural word (like mouses instead of mice). And no, my ds would definitely be able to articulate that they do more fun activities when "visitors" are present. He'd never say "new humans" because we aren't aliens.

I'd get a consult with a doctor. I think there is something wrong.


Agree here. My DS didn’t even talk til 4.5 but it was full grammatically correct sentences when he did


Ok, and? Many of our kids had language issues. The difference is we got them help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has been potty trained for over a year. DH and I have caught in several times in the act. His favorite spot is on the side of a sofa chair but he also pees in other places. Once DH caught him with his pants down in the master bedroom. We have carpets!! He doesn't do this @ school. We are so furious with him and it's expensive to get the carpets shampooed. I have a shampoo cleaner but no energy to keep cleaning the floors. The TV room smells like urine sooo bad. Why why why is this happening It's my birthday today and it just happened ! I am not having anymore kids after this. two and done two and done!! I think I need to repeat this all day so I can keep calm.


Sorry, but this calls for few good swats on his bare bottom and he would lose every privilege and every toy would be put away until he earned them back never, ever again urinating any where but in the toilet.




No we do not hit children. That is the wrong wrong answer for this.

UGH! NO!



I didn't say hit, I said a few swats on his bottom. Your idiotic gentle parenting is a collosal failure with an entire generation of horridly spoiled brats who urinate anywhere they please.


Would you “swat” a dependent elderly person in your care if they had an accident or even willfully urinated somewhere other than the toilet? No, because they don’t have full control over their mind or body, and that would be elder abuse.

Tell me how it’s not child abuse, but it would be elder abuse. Go on, make the case.

-NP


This kid isn’t having accidents. He’s running away from his parents when they tell him no and then deliberately urinating on their belongings or in their private spaces as a type of “FU” to them.


Yes, because that’s the kind of boundary-testing, irrational behavior that FOUR YEAR OLDS engage in, dingbat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has been potty trained for over a year. DH and I have caught in several times in the act. His favorite spot is on the side of a sofa chair but he also pees in other places. Once DH caught him with his pants down in the master bedroom. We have carpets!! He doesn't do this @ school. We are so furious with him and it's expensive to get the carpets shampooed. I have a shampoo cleaner but no energy to keep cleaning the floors. The TV room smells like urine sooo bad. Why why why is this happening It's my birthday today and it just happened ! I am not having anymore kids after this. two and done two and done!! I think I need to repeat this all day so I can keep calm.


Sorry, but this calls for few good swats on his bare bottom and he would lose every privilege and every toy would be put away until he earned them back never, ever again urinating any where but in the toilet.




No we do not hit children. That is the wrong wrong answer for this.

UGH! NO!



I didn't say hit, I said a few swats on his bottom. Your idiotic gentle parenting is a collosal failure with an entire generation of horridly spoiled brats who urinate anywhere they please.


Would you “swat” a dependent elderly person in your care if they had an accident or even willfully urinated somewhere other than the toilet? No, because they don’t have full control over their mind or body, and that would be elder abuse.

Tell me how it’s not child abuse, but it would be elder abuse. Go on, make the case.

-NP


This kid isn’t having accidents. He’s running away from his parents when they tell him no and then deliberately urinating on their belongings or in their private spaces as a type of “FU” to them.


Yes, because that’s the kind of boundary-testing, irrational behavior that FOUR YEAR OLDS engage in, dingbat.


NP and I know lots of four year olds. None of them pee on furniture to test boundaries. This is abnormal.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has been potty trained for over a year. DH and I have caught in several times in the act. His favorite spot is on the side of a sofa chair but he also pees in other places. Once DH caught him with his pants down in the master bedroom. We have carpets!! He doesn't do this @ school. We are so furious with him and it's expensive to get the carpets shampooed. I have a shampoo cleaner but no energy to keep cleaning the floors. The TV room smells like urine sooo bad. Why why why is this happening It's my birthday today and it just happened ! I am not having anymore kids after this. two and done two and done!! I think I need to repeat this all day so I can keep calm.


Sorry, but this calls for few good swats on his bare bottom and he would lose every privilege and every toy would be put away until he earned them back never, ever again urinating any where but in the toilet.




No we do not hit children. That is the wrong wrong answer for this.

UGH! NO!



I didn't say hit, I said a few swats on his bottom. Your idiotic gentle parenting is a collosal failure with an entire generation of horridly spoiled brats who urinate anywhere they please.


Would you “swat” a dependent elderly person in your care if they had an accident or even willfully urinated somewhere other than the toilet? No, because they don’t have full control over their mind or body, and that would be elder abuse.

Tell me how it’s not child abuse, but it would be elder abuse. Go on, make the case.

-NP


This kid isn’t having accidents. He’s running away from his parents when they tell him no and then deliberately urinating on their belongings or in their private spaces as a type of “FU” to them.


Yes, because that’s the kind of boundary-testing, irrational behavior that FOUR YEAR OLDS engage in, dingbat.


NP and I know lots of four year olds. None of them pee on furniture to test boundaries. This is abnormal.


+1

My kids all learned at 2 years old that pee goes in the potty. Deliberately peeing on furniture is so out of bounds of normal that it’s hard to believe you’re serious.
Anonymous
Op you seem mad that people are asking for additional information and aren’t able to give you a quick fix. Because there isn’t one. Your kid is doing something indicative of emotional/behavioral problems. Those take time and very precise treatment. The only options are to watch him like a hawk and not give him the opportunity to pee outside of the toilet, or pay the expensive professionals to help. Nothing else is going to work.
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