Red Wave coming in Maryland!

[Anonymous]

DP. You can feel free to report, but that “sock puppet” wasn’t me. Again, your quest to find that anyone who disagrees with you in good faith, must be trolling? Is the attitude that may hand Hogan the election. Again, I don’t WANT the senate to flip republican, and Hogan to win. But I’m so frustrated with other democrats (oh no, lowercase!) who stick their heads in the sand and assume every single person not 100% in lockstep with is some gop covert operative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a democrat and while I don’t want a ‘red wave’ (I’m voting for Harris & Alsobrooks, since I don’t want the Senate to flip), I don’t know what other options I have anymore for local politics.

Schools overcrowded and standards rapidly declining, taxes continuing to rise with no real accountability (I haven’t forgotten the $14m electric buses debacle in MoCo), cramming through zoning changes by handwaving away real concerns … in pursuit of equity and inclusivity, we have lost the plot.

I’m anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-homophobia with the best of MoCo citizens. I want people to be safe and welcome in our community. I’m also tired of elected officials telling me I’m “-ist” for asking why kids aren’t learning to read, pointing out no research has been done by the MoCo Planning Committee on infrastructure effects of upzoning, and being tired of being told that the uptick in crime isn’t real, since it ‘was worse in the 90s.’

I feel like I'm in upside down land. I’m at the point where, if I could find a legitimate moderate republican candidate who is pro-choice, I’d be voting for him/her. I can’t be the only democrat feeling this way? If it weren’t for the GOP’s backwards views on abortion and gun control, I’d be voting Harris/Hogan, frankly.

I definitely understand this point of view. I feel somewhat similar. To me, though, it's mostly the rhetoric from some Democrats that I find off-putting. If you ignore what they say, and just pay attention to the policies and laws enacted, there's really no question in my mind that I'm far more aligned with the Democratic party than the Republicans. Hogan might come close, but a lot of that is skewed because he was limited by what he could do with a Democratic legislature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a democrat and while I don’t want a ‘red wave’ (I’m voting for Harris & Alsobrooks, since I don’t want the Senate to flip), I don’t know what other options I have anymore for local politics.

Schools overcrowded and standards rapidly declining, taxes continuing to rise with no real accountability (I haven’t forgotten the $14m electric buses debacle in MoCo), cramming through zoning changes by handwaving away real concerns … in pursuit of equity and inclusivity, we have lost the plot.

I’m anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-homophobia with the best of MoCo citizens. I want people to be safe and welcome in our community. I’m also tired of elected officials telling me I’m “-ist” for asking why kids aren’t learning to read, pointing out no research has been done by the MoCo Planning Committee on infrastructure effects of upzoning, and being tired of being told that the uptick in crime isn’t real, since it ‘was worse in the 90s.’

I feel like I'm in upside down land. I’m at the point where, if I could find a legitimate moderate republican candidate who is pro-choice, I’d be voting for him/her. I can’t be the only democrat feeling this way? If it weren’t for the GOP’s backwards views on abortion and gun control, I’d be voting Harris/Hogan, frankly.

You are in the same position that many of us are at this point. We are left leaning democrats, even liberals, trying to navigate local politics run by progressives. Who we voted for locally (the MOCO council, for example) turned out to be beholden to progressives, and they are quite happy to sell us out for the progressive cred that they hope will move them up. In the meantime, we are stuck hoping that their success fails them up and away.

As a country we want to drag the Overton window to the left, but it’s quite far enough left already in Montgomery County. So, of course, the progressives screech that we are pro Republican or something just as silly.

There it is again. Now you're sock-puppeting. I'm reporting this one.

You can tell my mommy, too, but it won’t change the the fact that I posted that and I’m an actual person and that was my first post in the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DMV political spectrum goes something like this, from left to right:

Kristin Mink - extreme left
Marc Elrich - far left
Jamie Raskin - left
Wes Moore - mainstream Dem
David Blair - center-left
Abigail Spanberger - true center
Larry Hogan - center-right
Glenn Youngkin - establishment Republican
Winsome Sears - establishment/MAGA
Andy Harris - full MAGA

I’m not as familiar with VA Republican politics but SW Virginia GOP would be pretty MAGA.

Anyways the sweet spot is between Moore and Hogan. We need more of them, and more David Blairs and Abigail Spanbergers and fewer Kristin Minks.

I am sincerely laughing at the idea that Kristin Mink and Marc Elrich are far left. I guess I missed where they called for nationalizing the means of production?

And Jamie Raskin is as mainstream a Democrat as they come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. You can feel free to report, but that “sock puppet” wasn’t me. Again, your quest to find that anyone who disagrees with you in good faith, must be trolling? Is the attitude that may hand Hogan the election. Again, I don’t WANT the senate to flip republican, and Hogan to win. But I’m so frustrated with other democrats (oh no, lowercase!) who stick their heads in the sand and assume every single person not 100% in lockstep with is some gop covert operative.

DP. No, the election will not be won or lost based on what one anonymous poster said to another anonymous poster on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DMV political spectrum goes something like this, from left to right:

Kristin Mink - extreme left
Marc Elrich - far left
Jamie Raskin - left
Wes Moore - mainstream Dem
David Blair - center-left
Abigail Spanberger - true center
Larry Hogan - center-right
Glenn Youngkin - establishment Republican
Winsome Sears - establishment/MAGA
Andy Harris - full MAGA

I’m not as familiar with VA Republican politics but SW Virginia GOP would be pretty MAGA.

Anyways the sweet spot is between Moore and Hogan. We need more of them, and more David Blairs and Abigail Spanbergers and fewer Kristin Minks.

Good gracious. Youngkin is an extreme right wing MAGA fruitcake, and Hogan is a far right guy - the only reason you all didn't see it is the dems in the legislature kept him in check

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DMV political spectrum goes something like this, from left to right:

Kristin Mink - extreme left
Marc Elrich - far left
Jamie Raskin - left
Wes Moore - mainstream Dem
David Blair - center-left
Abigail Spanberger - true center
Larry Hogan - center-right
Glenn Youngkin - establishment Republican
Winsome Sears - establishment/MAGA
Andy Harris - full MAGA

I’m not as familiar with VA Republican politics but SW Virginia GOP would be pretty MAGA.

Anyways the sweet spot is between Moore and Hogan. We need more of them, and more David Blairs and Abigail Spanbergers and fewer Kristin Minks.

I am sincerely laughing at the idea that Kristin Mink and Marc Elrich are far left. I guess I missed where they called for nationalizing the means of production?

And Jamie Raskin is as mainstream a Democrat as they come.

Have you ever read anything at all about Kristin Mink? She makes AOC (who I like, even if I don’t always agree with her) seem like Reagan.

Plus, AOC is smart.

[Anonymous]

I am an independent and have no plan to vote right as long as you worship orange god.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DMV political spectrum goes something like this, from left to right:

Kristin Mink - extreme left
Marc Elrich - far left
Jamie Raskin - left
Wes Moore - mainstream Dem
David Blair - center-left
Abigail Spanberger - true center
Larry Hogan - center-right
Glenn Youngkin - establishment Republican
Winsome Sears - establishment/MAGA
Andy Harris - full MAGA

I’m not as familiar with VA Republican politics but SW Virginia GOP would be pretty MAGA.

Anyways the sweet spot is between Moore and Hogan. We need more of them, and more David Blairs and Abigail Spanbergers and fewer Kristin Minks.

I am sincerely laughing at the idea that Kristin Mink and Marc Elrich are far left. I guess I missed where they called for nationalizing the means of production?

And Jamie Raskin is as mainstream a Democrat as they come.

Have you ever read anything at all about Kristin Mink? She makes AOC (who I like, even if I don’t always agree with her) seem like Reagan.

Plus, AOC is smart.

Not only have I read about her, I have talked with her and worked with her. The obsessive hatred of Kristin Mink among the on-line right-wing trolls in Montgomery County says a lot about the on-line right-wing trolls in Montgomery County, but nothing about Kristin Mink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an independent and have no plan to vote right as long as you worship orange god.

And that's the problem right there. Every sane person has issues with the progressive left, but it's impossible to vote for Republicans as long as Trump is their leader. Trump is the Republican party. And until that changes, I can't vote for any of them. Even Hogan in the Senate is just another vehicle for the advancement of Trump. I would rather vote for Che Guevara than a Republican in the age of the Trump cult.

[Anonymous]

I am not a troll and I’m different from the other people posting - no sock puppet. I am a moderate democrat who has zero time for the maga idiots but really, really hate being condescended to by the far left. And I like Hogan! (Fwiw, I also defended Daley when I lived in Chicago- he represented me well and my republican relatives there hated me for it). I vote local and I think Hogan did a good job for me - as a Marylander. I like Raskin too. But not Elrich. Voters like me- prob schizophrenic seeming- exist and we hate being told we suck by people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DMV political spectrum goes something like this, from left to right:

Kristin Mink - extreme left
Marc Elrich - far left
Jamie Raskin - left
Wes Moore - mainstream Dem
David Blair - center-left
Abigail Spanberger - true center
Larry Hogan - center-right
Glenn Youngkin - establishment Republican
Winsome Sears - establishment/MAGA
Andy Harris - full MAGA

I’m not as familiar with VA Republican politics but SW Virginia GOP would be pretty MAGA.

Anyways the sweet spot is between Moore and Hogan. We need more of them, and more David Blairs and Abigail Spanbergers and fewer Kristin Minks.

I am sincerely laughing at the idea that Kristin Mink and Marc Elrich are far left. I guess I missed where they called for nationalizing the means of production?

And Jamie Raskin is as mainstream a Democrat as they come.

Have you ever read anything at all about Kristin Mink? She makes AOC (who I like, even if I don’t always agree with her) seem like Reagan.

Plus, AOC is smart.

Not only have I read about her, I have talked with her and worked with her. The obsessive hatred of Kristin Mink among the on-line right-wing trolls in Montgomery County says a lot about the on-line right-wing trolls in Montgomery County, but nothing about Kristin Mink.

DP. Oh, please. You don't have to be a "right-wing troll" to see how extreme she is.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/11/inside-the-highs-and-lows-of-councilmember-kristin-minks-first-nine-months/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll and I’m different from the other people posting - no sock puppet. I am a moderate democrat who has zero time for the maga idiots but really, really hate being condescended to by the far left. And I like Hogan! (Fwiw, I also defended Daley when I lived in Chicago- he represented me well and my republican relatives there hated me for it). I vote local and I think Hogan did a good job for me - as a Marylander. I like Raskin too. But not Elrich. Voters like me- prob schizophrenic seeming- exist and we hate being told we suck by people like you.

And therein lies the difference between voting for governor and voting for senator. You could easily vote for Hogan as governor because he wasn't going to be able to do anything right-wing. He was effectively just a regulator on what the D legislature could do. However, as senator, his vote is a vote for Trump if he becomes president again, which is very possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll and I’m different from the other people posting - no sock puppet. I am a moderate democrat who has zero time for the maga idiots but really, really hate being condescended to by the far left. And I like Hogan! (Fwiw, I also defended Daley when I lived in Chicago- he represented me well and my republican relatives there hated me for it). I vote local and I think Hogan did a good job for me - as a Marylander. I like Raskin too. But not Elrich. Voters like me- prob schizophrenic seeming- exist and we hate being told we suck by people like you.

Sorry your feelings got hurt! The truth hurts. You aren’t a Democrat if you vote for Hogan. The Senate has the ability to pass gun control laws which Hogan will not. Hogan opposed an assault weapons ban passed in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, and once elected, Hogan vetoed expanded background checks and stricter requirements on gun sellers and refused to sign legislation banning ghost guns. So a vote for him may get you a nice tax cut, but kids still won’t be safe in their schools. Hope the trade is worth for you.

[Anonymous]

I'm voting for Trump and Hogan and as much as I'd like to believe OP's prediction, I just don't see it. This is Maryland, after all.