I’ve worked in a hospital alongside many female residents and early career doctors and they have all made sacrifices to grow their families. Some have even decided not to breastfeed. No one has it all and the grass always looks greener elsewhere. The payoff will come down the road. |
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Thank you for understanding. It’s not about the money. We lived off alot less during training and I’m fine with that. I think my husband’s income is fine. It’s more about basically sacrificing all my years of working hard if I leave at this point. It’s not as easy as people say to just go part time! Esp now with how health care is going most large health systems want full time or promise part time but then make you cover for people and it is essentially full time. It truly is potentially giving up a career and all the training if I want to have the bonding others have with their babies esp if I decide to take 6 months with this baby (not in the cards for this job). I can just suck it up like I did with my daughter but it still pains me that she didn’t bond with me.[/quote] OP - you get second and third and fourth chances, with babies and kids. You truly do. I know people think there's this miraculous "infant bonding" period but it is more complex than that. If you didn't spend a lot of time with your daughter as an infant... you can still form those connections later. |
+1. 5-6 months of maternity or paternity leave is great but if you are in law (white shoe firm or even an associate GC at a college) you are in the office a lot. Tech is mostly in office or hybrid and finance is another track with great maternity leave but in office expectations. There are niche roles in all high paying career tracks where you can get balance (I’m in one) in the sense you can work from home and make $300K+ in your mid-30s but what I’m seeing is that now roles similar to my role with better salaries are demanding hybrid or in office work and even in my job, I’ll need to start traveling some and I have calls at night (between 7-9 pm) 3-4x/week. Just trying to help you understand the grass is not much greener elsewhere but if you do want to pivot you may want to try being advisor to a start up or telehealth - my friend left emergency medicine for a startup after a decade plus and her hours are better. |
This is so true. Being a working mom in a busy career is really tough, even more so when you are in the pregnancy, baby, and toddler years. I was miserable on a daily basis working when my two kids were tiny but it gets so much better. Still hard, but better. Sending you a hug, OP. |
| Typical of out of touch doctors who pity themselves. To think that law is family friendly is really the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. |
People don’t question medical training but to me it seems to involve a sort of hazing process. I had my first child during law school and my second directly after. Because of various relatives with fertility issues and my own hormone problems I was very concerned that I would not be able to conceive later. There was a BIG cost to my career but that is the choice I made. The world is not built for professional women to have children in their 20s. It is possible but will cost you in a big way. |
| If you are a physician, I would consider part time. Hospitalist, large practices will sometimes hire physicians on a part time basis, public health departments, walk-in clinics, etc. |
| No mention of how this effects medical care. |
You mean that fact that lots of moms in medicine can’t work full time and be the parents they want so they have to cut back alot or leave medicine entirely leading to the shortage of doctors that people complain about on the health and medicine forum? |
I have a PhD and had a similar experience with fertility concerns and not wanting to put off kids. It had a huge impact on my career too - really limited what I could do and apply for at that critical end of school/new grad period. Something else worked out, but my friends who waited until their mid-30s were much better off financially and didn't have to make the same career compromises. (That said, many had to go through fertility treatments.) I agree, the world isn't built for it. |
OP is an ob/gyn. The VA's patient population is really heavily male and elderly. I think what many of you are missing is that physician roles are in large part not interchangeable. My husband is a VA physician and for years hired physicians for the VA. For primary care, the VA wants board-certified internists. That would require OP doing another 3 year residency. The VA is not hiring ob/gyns for these roles. Sure, each VA medical center has a few ob/gyns on staff to do gyn surgeries and menopausal care but they outsource all ob care. I work as a physician in value-based care (insurance work). We hire physicians that have done this for their entire career. Public health departments generally want doctors with public health training (i.e an MPH). ERs (in urban areas) only want board-certified ER physicians who have completed ER medicine residencies. (Some rural ER still use family medicine physicians or whoever they can get but even this is changing). My brother is an ER physician and I wouldn't have the first clue how to do his job. Urgent cares will take internists/family medicine doctors but OP is neither of those. OP's situation is far from hopeless but it isn't the instant fix that some of you are making it. When my company hires for a physician role we get hundreds of resumes from physicians seeking to leave clinical work. We can generally pick someone with the very specific experience we want---a generalist who has then spent a career from residency on working in value-based care. We don't hire a random ob/gyn. |
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Seems like OP should have put more thought into what medical specialty to go into if OB is so inflexible. There’s a reason why women flock to specialties like derm. So this is a matter of choosing the right specialty.
My friend works with a retired OB that only comes in twice a week in a big medical group. So there are part time jobs. But seems like OP’s income is needed. So that’s a reason for finding a partner that brings in more. Life lessons. take heart OP, this phase of young children will pass and there will be other opportunities to bond with them. |
Do you wish you had kids later? |
One really can't know what life with babies and kids is going to be like - and not every doctor can get into the most coveted specialties. We need OB's, especially women OB's, so I don't think women should be discouraged from the profession. |