BIDEN DROP OUT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another Biden hating thread to distract from all the crimes committed by the mango Mussolini.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So here is a scenario for everyone (right, left, and center) to consider. Get used to it.

Step 1. Biden is not likely to drop out, and if he does, the intra-party fight that would result would be worse for Democrats than a Biden candidacy itself. Harris would feel entitled to the nomination and she would accuse anyone opposing her of racism; RFK Jr. would come back into the Democratic party, and make a good case that he is the best candidate; Michelle Obama would come in; plus a parade of Gavin Newsome's and so forth. Nobody could get a consensus, which would allow Trump to campaign against the "party of chaos, infighting, corruption, and lawlessness." Democrat party insiders know that this would be a disaster, and they know that it is very difficult to beat a sitting President in an election, so assume that Biden will be the nominee. (unless he dies before November, in which case the problems for Dems would be incrementally worse, because that would place President Harris as the incumbent who Dems would have to beg not to run).

Step 2. Trump is likely to be convicted on one of his 90+ indictments, most likely the Georgia election interference, and will be promptly cuffed and taken to jail. The outcome of these proceedings seems pre-determined, so it is hard to imagine any Court acquitting him.

Step 3. But Trump is smart and he will pick a likeable, normal running mate (Youngkin, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, for example) who will seem very sane, safe, and Presidential in comparison to Biden or Trump. (or Harris) he will have no difficulty getting them to agree, considering step 8 below.

Step 4. The Trump ticket will get all of the MAGA voters that Hillary called "deplorable," even though Trump himself will be sitting in jail on Election Day, plus the moderates and thoughtful voters in both parties will be more comfortable with someone like Youngkin, Scott, or Haley running the country than Biden, whose age, mental and physical fragility, and corruption grows scarier by the day to reasonable people. Plus, one of the biggest campaign issues for Republicans will be that the political left has gone too far by throwing political opponents in jail, and needs to be stopped. As unpopular as Trump may be, the image of one party throwing the opposing candidate in jail on sketchy charges brought by far left prosecutors will feel like we are becoming a third world country, and will make many Americans uncomfortable.

Step 5. Biden will have to debate Youngkin/Haley/Scott, who will stand in for Trump on the Campaign trail, since Trump will be sitting in jail by October of next year. Biden's inability to communicate in the debate will be embarrassing and scary for the Country, and God knows what additional mental and physical breakdowns Biden will have between now and next November that will make him unelectable.

Step 6. The Trump ticket will win in a landslide - at least 40% of the electorate would vote for Trump no matter what (Hillary's "deplorables"), plus at least 20% would prefer someone like Youngkin, etc. over a clearly incompetent Biden. In modern American politics, over 60% is a landslide.

Step 7. As soon as the Trump ticket VP is sworn in as Vice President, and then a moment later sworn in as President, in January 2025, he/she will pardon Trump, who will rail on the travesty of what the political left tried to do to him, the country will begin its healing and start its to return to normal.

Step 8. Trump will serve out the remainder of his second term, and then Youngkin/Scott/Haley will be positioned to run for two more terms.

like it or not, it's hard to see how this won't happen.

Interesting imagination.

Step 1: Biden / Harris ticket holds the blue wall of PA/MI/WI and narrowly wins electoral college in 2024.

Step 2: Biden steps down after 2026 midterms.

Step 3: Kamala Harris becomes first female POTUS.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the U.S. makes it to 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So here is a scenario for everyone (right, left, and center) to consider. Get used to it.

Step 1. Biden is not likely to drop out, and if he does, the intra-party fight that would result would be worse for Democrats than a Biden candidacy itself. Harris would feel entitled to the nomination and she would accuse anyone opposing her of racism; RFK Jr. would come back into the Democratic party, and make a good case that he is the best candidate; Michelle Obama would come in; plus a parade of Gavin Newsome's and so forth. Nobody could get a consensus, which would allow Trump to campaign against the "party of chaos, infighting, corruption, and lawlessness." Democrat party insiders know that this would be a disaster, and they know that it is very difficult to beat a sitting President in an election, so assume that Biden will be the nominee. (unless he dies before November, in which case the problems for Dems would be incrementally worse, because that would place President Harris as the incumbent who Dems would have to beg not to run).

Step 2. Trump is likely to be convicted on one of his 90+ indictments, most likely the Georgia election interference, and will be promptly cuffed and taken to jail. The outcome of these proceedings seems pre-determined, so it is hard to imagine any Court acquitting him.

Step 3. But Trump is smart and he will pick a likeable, normal running mate (Youngkin, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, for example) who will seem very sane, safe, and Presidential in comparison to Biden or Trump. (or Harris) he will have no difficulty getting them to agree, considering step 8 below.

Step 4. The Trump ticket will get all of the MAGA voters that Hillary called "deplorable," even though Trump himself will be sitting in jail on Election Day, plus the moderates and thoughtful voters in both parties will be more comfortable with someone like Youngkin, Scott, or Haley running the country than Biden, whose age, mental and physical fragility, and corruption grows scarier by the day to reasonable people. Plus, one of the biggest campaign issues for Republicans will be that the political left has gone too far by throwing political opponents in jail, and needs to be stopped. As unpopular as Trump may be, the image of one party throwing the opposing candidate in jail on sketchy charges brought by far left prosecutors will feel like we are becoming a third world country, and will make many Americans uncomfortable.

Step 5. Biden will have to debate Youngkin/Haley/Scott, who will stand in for Trump on the Campaign trail, since Trump will be sitting in jail by October of next year. Biden's inability to communicate in the debate will be embarrassing and scary for the Country, and God knows what additional mental and physical breakdowns Biden will have between now and next November that will make him unelectable.

Step 6. The Trump ticket will win in a landslide - at least 40% of the electorate would vote for Trump no matter what (Hillary's "deplorables"), plus at least 20% would prefer someone like Youngkin, etc. over a clearly incompetent Biden. In modern American politics, over 60% is a landslide.

Step 7. As soon as the Trump ticket VP is sworn in as Vice President, and then a moment later sworn in as President, in January 2025, he/she will pardon Trump, who will rail on the travesty of what the political left tried to do to him, the country will begin its healing and start its to return to normal.

Step 8. Trump will serve out the remainder of his second term, and then Youngkin/Scott/Haley will be positioned to run for two more terms.

like it or not, it's hard to see how this won't happen.

Interesting imagination.

Step 1: Biden / Harris ticket holds the blue wall of PA/MI/WI and narrowly wins electoral college in 2024.

Step 2: Biden steps down after 2026 midterms.

Step 3: Kamala Harris becomes first female POTUS.

And the country becomes even more of a laughingstock than it already is.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Dem leaders and older
Dems (most posters here sound like older Dems!) don’t get what a horror-show the Biden MidEast policy is. It’s alienating much of the world AND many younger Dems.

Trump is getting much more likely absent some change of direction from the Democrats and Biden is in the way of that.

Trump is a bigger supporter of Israel than Biden. The young voters won't tolerate that.

This is why more Jewish Americans of all ages will vote Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So here is a scenario for everyone (right, left, and center) to consider. Get used to it.

Step 1. Biden is not likely to drop out, and if he does, the intra-party fight that would result would be worse for Democrats than a Biden candidacy itself. Harris would feel entitled to the nomination and she would accuse anyone opposing her of racism; RFK Jr. would come back into the Democratic party, and make a good case that he is the best candidate; Michelle Obama would come in; plus a parade of Gavin Newsome's and so forth. Nobody could get a consensus, which would allow Trump to campaign against the "party of chaos, infighting, corruption, and lawlessness." Democrat party insiders know that this would be a disaster, and they know that it is very difficult to beat a sitting President in an election, so assume that Biden will be the nominee. (unless he dies before November, in which case the problems for Dems would be incrementally worse, because that would place President Harris as the incumbent who Dems would have to beg not to run).

Step 2. Trump is likely to be convicted on one of his 90+ indictments, most likely the Georgia election interference, and will be promptly cuffed and taken to jail. The outcome of these proceedings seems pre-determined, so it is hard to imagine any Court acquitting him.

Step 3. But Trump is smart and he will pick a likeable, normal running mate (Youngkin, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, for example) who will seem very sane, safe, and Presidential in comparison to Biden or Trump. (or Harris) he will have no difficulty getting them to agree, considering step 8 below.

Step 4. The Trump ticket will get all of the MAGA voters that Hillary called "deplorable," even though Trump himself will be sitting in jail on Election Day, plus the moderates and thoughtful voters in both parties will be more comfortable with someone like Youngkin, Scott, or Haley running the country than Biden, whose age, mental and physical fragility, and corruption grows scarier by the day to reasonable people. Plus, one of the biggest campaign issues for Republicans will be that the political left has gone too far by throwing political opponents in jail, and needs to be stopped. As unpopular as Trump may be, the image of one party throwing the opposing candidate in jail on sketchy charges brought by far left prosecutors will feel like we are becoming a third world country, and will make many Americans uncomfortable.

Step 5. Biden will have to debate Youngkin/Haley/Scott, who will stand in for Trump on the Campaign trail, since Trump will be sitting in jail by October of next year. Biden's inability to communicate in the debate will be embarrassing and scary for the Country, and God knows what additional mental and physical breakdowns Biden will have between now and next November that will make him unelectable.

Step 6. The Trump ticket will win in a landslide - at least 40% of the electorate would vote for Trump no matter what (Hillary's "deplorables"), plus at least 20% would prefer someone like Youngkin, etc. over a clearly incompetent Biden. In modern American politics, over 60% is a landslide.

Step 7. As soon as the Trump ticket VP is sworn in as Vice President, and then a moment later sworn in as President, in January 2025, he/she will pardon Trump, who will rail on the travesty of what the political left tried to do to him, the country will begin its healing and start its to return to normal.

Step 8. Trump will serve out the remainder of his second term, and then Youngkin/Scott/Haley will be positioned to run for two more terms.

like it or not, it's hard to see how this won't happen.

Interesting imagination.

Step 1: Biden / Harris ticket holds the blue wall of PA/MI/WI and narrowly wins electoral college in 2024.

Step 2: Biden steps down after 2026 midterms.

Step 3: Kamala Harris becomes first female POTUS.

And the country becomes even more of a laughingstock than it already is.
DP

More of a laughingstock? Is that even possible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So here is a scenario for everyone (right, left, and center) to consider. Get used to it.

Step 1. Biden is not likely to drop out, and if he does, the intra-party fight that would result would be worse for Democrats than a Biden candidacy itself. Harris would feel entitled to the nomination and she would accuse anyone opposing her of racism; RFK Jr. would come back into the Democratic party, and make a good case that he is the best candidate; Michelle Obama would come in; plus a parade of Gavin Newsome's and so forth. Nobody could get a consensus, which would allow Trump to campaign against the "party of chaos, infighting, corruption, and lawlessness." Democrat party insiders know that this would be a disaster, and they know that it is very difficult to beat a sitting President in an election, so assume that Biden will be the nominee. (unless he dies before November, in which case the problems for Dems would be incrementally worse, because that would place President Harris as the incumbent who Dems would have to beg not to run).

Step 2. Trump is likely to be convicted on one of his 90+ indictments, most likely the Georgia election interference, and will be promptly cuffed and taken to jail. The outcome of these proceedings seems pre-determined, so it is hard to imagine any Court acquitting him.

Step 3. But Trump is smart and he will pick a likeable, normal running mate (Youngkin, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, for example) who will seem very sane, safe, and Presidential in comparison to Biden or Trump. (or Harris) he will have no difficulty getting them to agree, considering step 8 below.

Step 4. The Trump ticket will get all of the MAGA voters that Hillary called "deplorable," even though Trump himself will be sitting in jail on Election Day, plus the moderates and thoughtful voters in both parties will be more comfortable with someone like Youngkin, Scott, or Haley running the country than Biden, whose age, mental and physical fragility, and corruption grows scarier by the day to reasonable people. Plus, one of the biggest campaign issues for Republicans will be that the political left has gone too far by throwing political opponents in jail, and needs to be stopped. As unpopular as Trump may be, the image of one party throwing the opposing candidate in jail on sketchy charges brought by far left prosecutors will feel like we are becoming a third world country, and will make many Americans uncomfortable.

Step 5. Biden will have to debate Youngkin/Haley/Scott, who will stand in for Trump on the Campaign trail, since Trump will be sitting in jail by October of next year. Biden's inability to communicate in the debate will be embarrassing and scary for the Country, and God knows what additional mental and physical breakdowns Biden will have between now and next November that will make him unelectable.

Step 6. The Trump ticket will win in a landslide - at least 40% of the electorate would vote for Trump no matter what (Hillary's "deplorables"), plus at least 20% would prefer someone like Youngkin, etc. over a clearly incompetent Biden. In modern American politics, over 60% is a landslide.

Step 7. As soon as the Trump ticket VP is sworn in as Vice President, and then a moment later sworn in as President, in January 2025, he/she will pardon Trump, who will rail on the travesty of what the political left tried to do to him, the country will begin its healing and start its to return to normal.

Step 8. Trump will serve out the remainder of his second term, and then Youngkin/Scott/Haley will be positioned to run for two more terms.

like it or not, it's hard to see how this won't happen.

Interesting imagination.

Step 1: Biden / Harris ticket holds the blue wall of PA/MI/WI and narrowly wins electoral college in 2024.

Step 2: Biden steps down after 2026 midterms.

Step 3: Kamala Harris becomes first female POTUS.

And the country becomes even more of a laughingstock than it already is.
DP

More of a laughingstock? Is that even possible?

The Biden/ Harris duet has one more year to go so everything is possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Dem leaders and older
Dems (most posters here sound like older Dems!) don’t get what a horror-show the Biden MidEast policy is. It’s alienating much of the world AND many younger Dems.

Trump is getting much more likely absent some change of direction from the Democrats and Biden is in the way of that.

Trump is a bigger supporter of Israel than Biden. The young voters won't tolerate that.

This is why more Jewish Americans of all ages will vote Trump.

That is not enough votes to change any outcome.

[Anonymous]

He hasn't done any of those speeches lately, the ones where he says democracy is at stake, and that mega maga ultra magists aren't like John McCain. Those speeches seemed to go over well with the base.

[Anonymous]

Biden’s memory appears to be fading.

If he can’t remember well now, just think how much poorer his memory will be once the presidential election campaign begins in the run up to November?

Disaster can be averted with a different candidate.

[Anonymous]

He needs to step down NOW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden’s memory appears to be fading.

If he can’t remember well now, just think how much poorer his memory will be once the presidential election campaign begins in the run up to November?

Disaster can be averted with a different candidate.

If Biden decides that his health has deteriorated to the point where he is not able to campaign or fulfill the duties as president and drops out, Democrats will rally around the sitting Vice-President, Kamala Harris. Just as they did in 1968 when Lyndon Johnson abruptly dropped out. And FWIW the 1968 Democratic National Convention was a complete sh*tshow.

Personally I like Kamala Harris, but I know that a lot of other people don’t for various reasons and fantasize that Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom will leapfrog Harris and somehow keep the fragile Dem coalition intact, but that’s not going to happen.

[Anonymous]