Doordasher yells at customer that left 25% tip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I let drivers know up front the tip is $0, how is it my problem when I let them know in advance there is no tip? I’m in Los Angeles and get my orders within 30-45 mins weekly. We pay super high feee for their gas, benefits, La la la la la etc. I’m letting you know up front it’s a no tip order, how can you possibly be upset when I tell you in advance??? I’m not tip baiting, I don’t put $20 tip and then change it to zero. I’m 100% letting you know that if you choose to deliver my order, you are choosing zero tip. What is the problem here?

I would be afraid the delivery person would tamper with my food.

[Anonymous]

Alot of tipped employees are homeless or live in motels. Your stinginess not tipping could mean they don't have food or sleep in a tent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sibling is in the restaurant industry and he said he's noticing a shift. All the random places adding tip options to their checkout screens is angering people and starting to cause a tipping backlash.

Those screens—and stories like this—never make me inclined to tip more, only to avoid situations where any tipping is expected. Eating out at a mediocre restaurant just isn’t worth it.

Just back from a trip to Europe where the service we received was 1000 times better than anything we’ve seen recently here, and no tipping expected.

Europe is a continent with over 50 countries. Do you think they all have the same tipping culture? Here's hint: in London, tipping is customary at about 15% (or more, depending on where you eat).

In many Western European countries tipping is expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Alot of tipped employees are homeless or live in motels. Your stinginess not tipping could mean they don't have food or sleep in a tent.

Then they can work at McDonalds so they know in advance what their wage will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tip $0 on door dash and the dasher knows this in advance. If you don’t like it, don’t pick up my order. He literally saw the tip was $5 in advance, what did he expect? A pot of got at the door?? The entitlement!!!

Agreed. I tip $0 for drivers and I'm sick of people whining. They literally walk a bag from their car to my door and half the time they're lazy and whine about having to get out of their car. If someone is biking or walking I do tip, but for a car, no.

I'd be afraid to eat your food...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I let drivers know up front the tip is $0, how is it my problem when I let them know in advance there is no tip? I’m in Los Angeles and get my orders within 30-45 mins weekly. We pay super high feee for their gas, benefits, La la la la la etc. I’m letting you know up front it’s a no tip order, how can you possibly be upset when I tell you in advance??? I’m not tip baiting, I don’t put $20 tip and then change it to zero. I’m 100% letting you know that if you choose to deliver my order, you are choosing zero tip. What is the problem here?

I would be afraid the delivery person would tamper with my food.

+1 with good reason~

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

All of this!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tip $0 on door dash and the dasher knows this in advance. If you don’t like it, don’t pick up my order. He literally saw the tip was $5 in advance, what did he expect? A pot of got at the door?? The entitlement!!!

If you are too broke to tip then you need to pick up your food yourself. They have a list of addresses belonging to people who don’t tip. Check your food.

[Anonymous]

The person a doordasher should really be upset with is their self.

They are the ones who chose that job knowing that 1) tips aren't guaranteed and 2) a typical trip payment from DD is $5-7.

They can't even be mad at DD as a system because again, they CHOSE to work for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alot of tipped employees are homeless or live in motels. Your stinginess not tipping could mean they don't have food or sleep in a tent.

Then they can work at McDonalds so they know in advance what their wage will be.

Exactly!

Um, to do food delivery you need a smartphone and car. All of the workers at my local McDonalds walk to work and most have flip phones or pay-as-you-go phones that would cost a lot to run a food delivery app.

[Anonymous]

I don’t use DoorDash or other apps because of all the fees. I also really object to the arbitrary expectations of who you should tip. I went into a gourmet grocery and was surprised to receive a prompt for a tip. I had selected my food from a shelf, brought it to the checkout counter, and had spoken to no one before being rung up.

Why should I tip here, and not at the local Safeway? At my local chain grocery store, if I have a few items, I use self checkout. Otherwise, I always go to checkout #3, where Gloria is. She always smiles and asks me how I’m doing, has all the produce codes memorized, even the random ones like kumquat, puts rubber bands around berry containers, puts all the frozen stuff together, asks me if I would like to take my mints or have them bagged, gives me lots of bag credits for my reusable bags, and sincerely thanks me for helping her bag. I would much rather tip Gloria than the insouciant teens at the coffee shop who hand you an almond croissant from the tray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alot of tipped employees are homeless or live in motels. Your stinginess not tipping could mean they don't have food or sleep in a tent.

Then they can work at McDonalds so they know in advance what their wage will be.

Exactly!

Um, to do food delivery you need a smartphone and car. All of the workers at my local McDonalds walk to work and most have flip phones or pay-as-you-go phones that would cost a lot to run a food delivery app.

McDonalds requires an interview, a personality test and a few days of training. Not to mention having to commit to an actual schedule and be accountable to a supervisor. DoorDash is the ultimate job for people who don’t want to engage with anyone and don’t want to commit to anything. No interview, not even a phone call, just sign up online. No training, no accountability to a real person, no minimum hour or time span commitment. This is why people sign up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

Are you kidding? Of course income correlates with education, that’s why we send kids to school. There are outliers all over the place, of course, but do I really need to show you data proving that higher education correlates with higher income?

https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/data-on-display/education-pays.htm

Your daughter may be paid a higher per hour rate, but her career as a hostess is not equivalent to PP’s job with a graduate degree prerequisite, and you know it. PP is getting health insurance, likely dental and eye care coverage. PP has paid vacation, and sick days. PP has a yearly salary and longevity because of their specific specialized skills. PP might have an IRA with employer contribution. PP will have a higher salary and promotion opportunities in the future.

Good luck to your daughter with her pursuit of the arts.