Doordasher yells at customer that left 25% tip

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

That's great for your daughter, but I hope she's saving her money because she's getting paid for her looks. The point of getting an education is that when she's not early 20s anymore and men aren't handing her hundred dollar bills for nothing, she'll still be able to make money.
Income absolutely correlates with education outside of things like modelling, acting and hostessing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

Strippers make a lot of money too.
This scenario is irrelevant and yes, income does correlate with education. Why else do we send our children to college?

[Anonymous]

Never understood people who are too lazy to go get take away food. Have never used Door Dash or UberEats.

It’s disingenuous to say “25% tip” when it’s a measly $5. Just because you ordered a ridiculous small order for delivery is not drivers fault. I actually am fine with higher tip for expensive orders; they are responsible for transporting $400 worth of goods — a higher fee is warranted. What happens if they get cut off and it spills? I think the Dasher has to pay.

But people saying “get a job” it’s often illegal immigrates dashing on someone’s account, ex cons, or people who need the ultimate flexibility. Retail and fast food are famous for inflexible and disruptive scheduling.

It’s not walking from car door to your door — they have to drive to restaurants then to the homes etc. and most don’t live in your fancy zip code so already drove awhile to get in active market. DD pays about $3/job, so $10 tips after gas might be nearly minimum wage for the 30 minutes of work. And that doesn’t include the time with them circling or idling waiting on call for orders — are pizza delivery drivers at a restaurant paid for while they wait for orders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

Strippers make a lot of money too.
This scenario is irrelevant and yes, income does correlate with education. Why else do we send our children to college?

So do high end escorts, are you trying to compare hospitality workers with women who take off their clothes for money?

My point was the wealthiest people tip well. The ones who call themselves upper middle class and middle class not so much. The workers with lower incomes tip better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never understood people who are too lazy to go get take away food. Have never used Door Dash or UberEats.

It’s disingenuous to say “25% tip” when it’s a measly $5. Just because you ordered a ridiculous small order for delivery is not drivers fault. I actually am fine with higher tip for expensive orders; they are responsible for transporting $400 worth of goods — a higher fee is warranted. What happens if they get cut off and it spills? I think the Dasher has to pay.

But people saying “get a job” it’s often illegal immigrates dashing on someone’s account, ex cons, or people who need the ultimate flexibility. Retail and fast food are famous for inflexible and disruptive scheduling.

It’s not walking from car door to your door — they have to drive to restaurants then to the homes etc. and most don’t live in your fancy zip code so already drove awhile to get in active market. DD pays about $3/job, so $10 tips after gas might be nearly minimum wage for the 30 minutes of work. And that doesn’t include the time with them circling or idling waiting on call for orders — are pizza delivery drivers at a restaurant paid for while they wait for orders?

You understand these jobs are a choice. And, that's a reasonable tip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

That's great for your daughter, but I hope she's saving her money because she's getting paid for her looks. The point of getting an education is that when she's not early 20s anymore and men aren't handing her hundred dollar bills for nothing, she'll still be able to make money.
Income absolutely correlates with education outside of things like modelling, acting and hostessing.

I know that. She’s an apprentice dancer during the day. We spent money for full time classical training that equals most college tuitions. She lived in a dorm and then expensive apartments like most city college students do. A few of the girls in the job move on to event planning, management or marketing for the company.

The odds of her making it in dance full time is very small even though she was accepted to the top schools and has been training full time for years. She knows that odds are low.

She wasn’t going to go to a traditional college because she is weak academically and hated it. We pay her rent and she has back up money. But yeah, she knows this is not a forever job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

Strippers make a lot of money too.
This scenario is irrelevant and yes, income does correlate with education. Why else do we send our children to college?

So do high end escorts, are you trying to compare hospitality workers with women who take off their clothes for money?

My point was the wealthiest people tip well. The ones who call themselves upper middle class and middle class not so much. The workers with lower incomes tip better.

I was addressing your claim that income has no relation to education. In some careers (like those that are appearance-based), it doesn't, but in almost all it does.

[Anonymous]

NYC is trying to make Door Dash, Uber Eats etc commit to paying minimum wage and they are fighting it. Big lawsuit. The drivers make less than minimum wage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DoorDash and competitors charge so much in fees and take a cut from restaurants. The customer shouldn’t need to tip on top. If a driver doesn’t like how much they’re being paid speak to their employer…

But the drivers are told you only make money if people tip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NYC is trying to make Door Dash, Uber Eats etc commit to paying minimum wage and they are fighting it. Big lawsuit. The drivers make less than minimum wage

Kamala Harris' brother-in-law in the one fighting it.

[Anonymous]

The issue is that these gig professions are dominated by uneducated men: they don't understand basic economics (that they are never going to get ahead in unskilled labor no matter how much they "hustle") and they are aggressive in their begging (that is what this tip housing is) toward women customers

[Anonymous]

Such entitlement. Glad he is realizing it’s coming to an end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy is wrong, and an entitled a-hole, but I always tip food delivery people. DoorDash is kind of predatory towards their drivers, and they really need those tips to make any kind of income. It’s the regular business transactions, like a cashier handing you the stuff you just bought, that get a side-eye from me if there’s a tip screen.

However, this guy seems like the kind of person who wouldn’t tip well if the food were coming to his own home.

The guy is not wrong, if they can afford that house, they can afford to tip a little more. And the guy is no more "entitled" than the woman living the lap of luxury in her big house.

Obvs a troll but I’ll bite. Even if the woman is filthy rich: so? How does enjoying her money make her “entitled”? Presumably someone worked long and hard enough to afford that house. Making a comment that she should give more because of the size of that house - that’s entitlement. For all he knows she could be the babysitter!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't think someone going to pick up your food and bring it to your house requires a tip?

No I don’t. I live in California so we pay $9-11 in fees on a $20 order, because we also pay for the drivers to have benefits. I’m not tipping you when I’m helping pay your health insurance. I don’t even get health insurance through work!

My job, which requires a graduate degree, pays $50/hour. I don't get paid for any time that I don't work, and that includes bathroom breaks. No job security, no vacation, no benefits. But for some reason, I have to tip everyone else, and the people receiving these tips think the minimum wage should be as high as 25/hour.

I do support a much higher minimum wage. But tipping needs to go. And also, if minimum wage is even 15/hour, then entry level jobs requiring a BA need to pay more since they barely pay more than the equivalent of 15/hour now. And then if those jobs are paying the equivalent of 25-30/hour, then mine should be paying at least 70. I don't think minimum wage workers understand that a lot of people are making 35K per year with a college degree and aren't getting any tips.

You know by now that income does not correlate with education.

My dd is in NYC, early 20s, among the thousands trying make it in the arts. She works part time at night in a private dinner club as a host. Her base salary is $45 per hour. Tips more than double her salary. Before that she worked in a high end restaurant as a hostess. $15 per hour plus tips. People would hand her $100 for seating them. Some of the regular Wall Street guys would give all the front house staff a $50 bill when they walked in.

The 1% are not cheap. It’s the middle income that’s cheap. The working class guys will tip their last dollar because they understand.

Strippers make a lot of money too.
This scenario is irrelevant and yes, income does correlate with education. Why else do we send our children to college?

So do high end escorts, are you trying to compare hospitality workers with women who take off their clothes for money?

My point was the wealthiest people tip well. The ones who call themselves upper middle class and middle class not so much. The workers with lower incomes tip better.

I was addressing your claim that income has no relation to education. In some careers (like those that are appearance-based), it doesn't, but in almost all it does.

Supply and demand also affects salaries. There are a glut of attorneys so the salaries are down except the very top of the field. Workers in social services have Master Degrees but are not paid what they’re worth. Trained craftsmen can make more than people with Master’s.
Of course if you’re trained as a medical doctor you will make a good living after years of training. Starting on Wall Street as a hedge fund trader only requires a 4 year degree.

I shouldn’t say there is no correlation between income and education. But the advanced degrees in certain fields don’t get the incomes they deserve. Others are overpaid without any advanced degrees.

[Anonymous]

So many cheap mofos in this thread trying to justify it. Pathetic and low