Columbia permanently pulls out of US news

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Anonymous wrote:Good for Columbia. USNWR showed they are incompetent with their law school rankings rollout debacle this year. USNWR, or what is left of it outside of ranking anything they can in life, is just sad. The annual rankings are clickbait that people somehow genuinely care about. Movement year to year is essentially meaningless yet alumni and high schoolers are holding their breath on the eve of the release.

You're delusional. 35 million people read US news yearly. 10 years time Columbia will be a teir 3 school.

You do realize Columbia will be ranked higher than they are this year even without directly participating in the data collection, right?
It is the best school in one of the most popular destination cities. The only tier 3 it could ever drop to is an imaginary third tier of the Ivy League (which will all still be top 25 regardless on the ranker).

They won't. US news is adding Columbia GS to the formula. The school with an 80% graduation rate.

So if Columbia drops their GS totally from the system, would this make our society better?

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder whether the Ivy League is concerned about Columbia University.

I can see the Ivy League banding together and deciding to all leave the rankings, because none of them will be hurt if they all leave. If that happens, Stanford, MIT, etc will absolutely join them. None of these schools need rankings. 98% of people are never going to say “I’m not going to apply to Columbia because it left the USNWRT rankings”

Whatever you’re drinking, I want some.

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Anonymous wrote:I would hate to be a Columbia alum right now. This feels worse than the USC scandals.

I am an alum and I feel fine... I didn't follow the rankings scandal much, although it is embarrassing for the school. Regardless, Columbia has been and continues to be among the best universities in the world without question. Anyone unwilling to acknowledge this is being silly and obviously have no clue.

I was just thinking- I’d love to be a Columbia alum!

My kid with great stats would love to be a Columbia alum but alas they rejected him earlier this year

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Anonymous wrote:Good for Columbia. USNWR showed they are incompetent with their law school rankings rollout debacle this year. USNWR, or what is left of it outside of ranking anything they can in life, is just sad. The annual rankings are clickbait that people somehow genuinely care about. Movement year to year is essentially meaningless yet alumni and high schoolers are holding their breath on the eve of the release.

You're delusional. 35 million people read US news yearly. 10 years time Columbia will be a teir 3 school.

You do realize Columbia will be ranked higher than they are this year even without directly participating in the data collection, right?
It is the best school in one of the most popular destination cities. The only tier 3 it could ever drop to is an imaginary third tier of the Ivy League (which will all still be top 25 regardless on the ranker).

Anyone remember when Kelly Bensimon of the Real Housewives of NY claimed to be a Columbia grad? Bethenny was like, “She didn’t go to Columbia. Colombia, the country maybe, but not Columbia.” Implying cocaine use. It was pretty funny. People like the real housewives having a General Studies diploma from Columbia really bring the brand down.

Not really. You are the only person who is obsessed with the college of General Studies. I know a few dummies who went to Harvard. It doesn’t affect their brand one bit

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Anonymous wrote:Pure speculation but they do have a new president. I think she came from the UK so perhaps she is not as beholden to rankings as Americans are. Not sure if she deserves the credit or not but if yes, good for her for shaking up the system

US system is downgraded copy of UK system that has prestige and hierarchy unlike other Euro countries like Germany.

UK at least choose students by academic merits.

So what do they do when they receive more applications that are academically qualified than there are spots available? Because that's what happens here.

They have interviews designed to filter out the best students, academically. This is unlike the US where the goal of the interview is to filter out social undeireables (usually Asians, hence their lower scores in interviews).

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Anonymous wrote:Good for Columbia. USNWR showed they are incompetent with their law school rankings rollout debacle this year. USNWR, or what is left of it outside of ranking anything they can in life, is just sad. The annual rankings are clickbait that people somehow genuinely care about. Movement year to year is essentially meaningless yet alumni and high schoolers are holding their breath on the eve of the release.

You're delusional. 35 million people read US news yearly. 10 years time Columbia will be a teir 3 school.

You do realize Columbia will be ranked higher than they are this year even without directly participating in the data collection, right?
It is the best school in one of the most popular destination cities. The only tier 3 it could ever drop to is an imaginary third tier of the Ivy League (which will all still be top 25 regardless on the ranker).

Anyone remember when Kelly Bensimon of the Real Housewives of NY claimed to be a Columbia grad? Bethenny was like, “She didn’t go to Columbia. Colombia, the country maybe, but not Columbia.” Implying cocaine use. It was pretty funny. People like the real housewives having a General Studies diploma from Columbia really bring the brand down.

Not really. You are the only person who is obsessed with the college of General Studies. I know a few dummies who went to Harvard. It doesn’t affect their brand one bit

Columbia’s new pitch this fall: Yes, we’re now ranked 28 but did you hear about that dumb kid who went to Harvard?

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Cornell is ranked 17, 16, and 11 by USNews, Forbes, and WSJ respectively. Pretty respectable to me. Anyone knows if the Cornell Agriculture school is lumped in with the other Cornell schools for any of these rankings?

Cornell is hard to rank compared to its peers; its mission and course catalog is markedly broader as is its undergrad student size. The Ag (or hotel) school is just as good as the other schools and can be just as hard to get in - they are looking for different abilities. Cornell has significant global prestige. I think it is happy and probably not too concerned on where they are ranked.

This is true. Oddly enough, Cornell is often the one school outside the Big Three that laypeople will think of when asked about the Ivy League. I've found this to be the case not only domestically, but in parts of Europe and Asia as well.

Yup. Everyone all over the world seems to know Cornell. It has a top notch reputation perhaps because it has a reputation for being a tough school. There are some clueless idiots on here who love to trash it but they just come across as ignorant

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Anonymous wrote:Quickly becoming a non-selective school for graduate degrees. Raking in the money on past reputation.

I'm assuming that you aren't talking about medical school, dental school, law school, or business school.

Isn’t Columbia Law School considered one of the top 5?

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Anonymous wrote:Good for Columbia. USNWR showed they are incompetent with their law school rankings rollout debacle this year. USNWR, or what is left of it outside of ranking anything they can in life, is just sad. The annual rankings are clickbait that people somehow genuinely care about. Movement year to year is essentially meaningless yet alumni and high schoolers are holding their breath on the eve of the release.

You're delusional. 35 million people read US news yearly. 10 years time Columbia will be a teir 3 school.

You do realize Columbia will be ranked higher than they are this year even without directly participating in the data collection, right?
It is the best school in one of the most popular destination cities. The only tier 3 it could ever drop to is an imaginary third tier of the Ivy League (which will all still be top 25 regardless on the ranker).

Anyone remember when Kelly Bensimon of the Real Housewives of NY claimed to be a Columbia grad? Bethenny was like, “She didn’t go to Columbia. Colombia, the country maybe, but not Columbia.” Implying cocaine use. It was pretty funny. People like the real housewives having a General Studies diploma from Columbia really bring the brand down.

Not really. You are the only person who is obsessed with the college of General Studies. I know a few dummies who went to Harvard. It doesn’t affect their brand one bit

there's a real major called "general studies"? What do they learn?

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Anonymous wrote:I would hate to be a Columbia alum right now. This feels worse than the USC scandals.

I am an alum and I feel fine... I didn't follow the rankings scandal much, although it is embarrassing for the school. Regardless, Columbia has been and continues to be among the best universities in the world without question. Anyone unwilling to acknowledge this is being silly and obviously have no clue.

+1

Columbia ranks pretty high in other ranking services that don't require Columbia or other institutions' data input.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for Columbia. USNWR showed they are incompetent with their law school rankings rollout debacle this year. USNWR, or what is left of it outside of ranking anything they can in life, is just sad. The annual rankings are clickbait that people somehow genuinely care about. Movement year to year is essentially meaningless yet alumni and high schoolers are holding their breath on the eve of the release.

You're delusional. 35 million people read US news yearly. 10 years time Columbia will be a teir 3 school.

You do realize Columbia will be ranked higher than they are this year even without directly participating in the data collection, right?
It is the best school in one of the most popular destination cities. The only tier 3 it could ever drop to is an imaginary third tier of the Ivy League (which will all still be top 25 regardless on the ranker).

Anyone remember when Kelly Bensimon of the Real Housewives of NY claimed to be a Columbia grad? Bethenny was like, “She didn’t go to Columbia. Colombia, the country maybe, but not Columbia.” Implying cocaine use. It was pretty funny. People like the real housewives having a General Studies diploma from Columbia really bring the brand down.

Not really. You are the only person who is obsessed with the college of General Studies. I know a few dummies who went to Harvard. It doesn’t affect their brand one bit

there's a real major called "general studies"? What do they learn?

No, it is the school of general studies: https://www.gs.columbia.edu/

"The School of General Studies of Columbia University is the finest liberal arts college in the United States created specifically for returning and nontraditional students seeking a rigorous, traditional, Ivy League undergraduate degree full or part time. GS is also home to innovative dual and joint degree programs open to all students, including those applying directly from high school, in partnership with List College of the Jewish Theological Seminary, Sciences Po, Trinity College Dublin, Tel Aviv University, and City University of Hong Kong."

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia doesn't need the headache. I would't be surprised to see other similarly situated schools like HYPSM or the top SLACs like Williams and Amherst follow suit. I also wouldn't be surprised to see lower ranked flagships (Alabama, Arizona, Nebraska...) to realize that the ratings are in no way helping them and pull out.

Normally, I would respond to a post like this by asking for some of what you are smoking, but I believe that almost anything is possible.

Remember when law schools started pulling out and people laughed at the first couple and then most of the prestigious schools followed suit

And remember Columbia was the first ivy to pull out of the standardized test scores permanently. No one laughed.

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If Columbia were not in NYC, it would not be that popular. Except for those who ONLY care about going to Ivy League college

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia's standing in the T10 is definitely tenuous. It's a great institution no doubt, but one really wonders if it's T10 caliber with all the shenanigans they pull.

If you include GS, no.

For nearly all HS students in America and in the world who apply to Columbia right out of college, GS drops out as irrelevant. They automatically apply to Columbia College or the engineering school. Including GS in the ranking is just silly.

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Anonymous wrote:If Columbia were not in NYC, it would not be that popular. Except for those who ONLY care about going to Ivy League college

If Columbia were not in NYC, it probably would be the same. For everyone who wants to go to college in NYC, there is someone who would never want to be in NYC. It works both ways in other words. Having a rigorous core curriculum requirement also turns off thousands of students.

The Columbia haters fail to recognize that it is the 5th oldest college (many founding fathers including Alexander Hamilton, John Jay), has impressive alumni from Obama to Eric Holder, Neil Gorsuch, William Barr (lol), Warren Buffett, etc. The school awards the most prestigious Awards in journalism, Pulitzers, the physics dept practically invented the Manhattan Project leading to the atomic bomb, it is among the handful of universities around the world with the highest number of Nobel affiliates, etc. It is also one of the wealthiest schools in the world.

In other words, I don't think its world-wide reputation is a result from its location in NYC or because it is a member of an athletic league. Only a handful of schools can compare to it when it comes to any objective measure.