CVS Sangamore

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

Standing down like they are told to do

No, they were looking for a suicidal teenager, whom they found after an extensive search and then took to the hospital. They probably saved a young life. Lay off the people doing work and save your criticism for the people who think we should have fewer police.

I was referring to the fact that police are often not acting due to county forces that govern them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

They are following the policies made by the MoCo authorities. The decision to tolerate crime and disorder of this sort is a policy choice. Other choices could be made, but they won’t be made by the current slate of elected officials.

It is so refreshing to find others on DCUM who understand the real problem: the council.

We can’t fault the police. The council wants fewer police (source: Reimagining Public Safety report) and that’s exactly what we getting. Now that the council realized their efforts were misguided, they literally can’t pay people to sign up. The council made this recruitment mess.

And current police? The people complaining that police don’t show up simply don’t get it. MCPD is severely understaffed! Calls are up and there are fewer police to respond. Again: that’s on the council.

You want laws enforced? Once again, look to the council. They are currently deciding whether police can even pull people over for low-level offenses. Don’t get angry at officers when you see them “ignoring” safety issues. That’s on… you guessed it… the council.

The fact we have anybody left willing to be part of MCPD is amazing.

Preventing police from wasting time on traffic enforcement is a direct action to focus limited resources towards violent crime. You are part of tue problem and not being serious about keeping our community safe.

Traffic stops can result in drugs and guns being taken off the streets and those who have outstanding warrants being taken into custody. Back to astroturfing school for you!

Exactly. Like this routine traffic stop that led to seizing meth, crack, and fentanyl from a dealer:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43029

Or this one for an expired registration taht took a semi-automatic rifle off the streets, along with drugs -- this is exactly the kind of stop Jawando's crime bill seeks to ban:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43006

Or another where 1,800 pills of fentanyl and an illegal firearm were recovered:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=42965

Imagine if these stops never took place. 1,800 pills on the market, and more peopel dying from overdoses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

Standing down like they are told to do

No, they were looking for a suicidal teenager, whom they found after an extensive search and then took to the hospital. They probably saved a young life. Lay off the people doing work and save your criticism for the people who think we should have fewer police.

I was referring to the fact that police are often not acting due to county forces that govern them.

That wasn’t the case here so it’s not relevant. What is relevant is that this district has lost almost half of its patrol staffing since the beginning of the year.

[Anonymous]

No employee can act due to potentially huge liability. No citizen can act due to being potentially called a Karen or whatever the male equivalent is. Not to mention, of course, the real threat of danger. Cops have bigger matters to attend to. Politicians don’t seem to care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet they’re real safe drivers too when they race away with five huge bags of stolen cosmetics to re-sell. Driving on MacArthur, sangamore and mass Ave.

Waldorf school, woodacres, the apartment and condo complexes, the kids dance and karate studios there, and the whole community better speak up loud and clear. Now.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Overall crime is down. Look at the data.

12 carjackings in the first 3 months o f this year, just in Wheaton:

https://moco360.media/2023/03/17/12-carjackings-and-a-shooting-at-wheaton-mall-have-residents-fearful/

So last year it was even higher then?

Are you under the impression that crime levels are based purely on carjackings?

Let me prove it to you.

Montgomery county crime rate per 100,000 people:

2020: 1,571.5
2010: 2,293.7
2000: 3,153.9
1990: 4,027.5
1980: 5,482.4

Now tell me has MoCo become more or less politically progressive over that time period? I have lives here that whole time so you can’t fool me. I’m so sick of you MoCo bashing liars.

Come in, out the absolute numbers up if yours not going to control for population growth when slapping up per capital stuff

Math fail

God damn the amount of stupidity in this thread is astounding. Those numbers are per 100,000 people. They are not absolute totals. That’s the only reasonable way to compare different time periods with different populations. Did you even bother to check your assumption before arguing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

They are following the policies made by the MoCo authorities. The decision to tolerate crime and disorder of this sort is a policy choice. Other choices could be made, but they won’t be made by the current slate of elected officials.

It is so refreshing to find others on DCUM who understand the real problem: the council.

We can’t fault the police. The council wants fewer police (source: Reimagining Public Safety report) and that’s exactly what we getting. Now that the council realized their efforts were misguided, they literally can’t pay people to sign up. The council made this recruitment mess.

And current police? The people complaining that police don’t show up simply don’t get it. MCPD is severely understaffed! Calls are up and there are fewer police to respond. Again: that’s on the council.

You want laws enforced? Once again, look to the council. They are currently deciding whether police can even pull people over for low-level offenses. Don’t get angry at officers when you see them “ignoring” safety issues. That’s on… you guessed it… the council.

The fact we have anybody left willing to be part of MCPD is amazing.

Preventing police from wasting time on traffic enforcement is a direct action to focus limited resources towards violent crime. You are part of tue problem and not being serious about keeping our community safe.

Traffic stops can result in drugs and guns being taken off the streets and those who have outstanding warrants being taken into custody. Back to astroturfing school for you!

Exactly. Like this routine traffic stop that led to seizing meth, crack, and fentanyl from a dealer:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43029

Or this one for an expired registration taht took a semi-automatic rifle off the streets, along with drugs -- this is exactly the kind of stop Jawando's crime bill seeks to ban:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43006

Or another where 1,800 pills of fentanyl and an illegal firearm were recovered:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=42965

Imagine if these stops never took place. 1,800 pills on the market, and more peopel dying from overdoses.

And yet guns and drugs are still plentiful and perfectly easy to procure. How can that be if traffic stops supposedly stop crime?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

Standing down like they are told to do

More lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

Standing down like they are told to do

No, they were looking for a suicidal teenager, whom they found after an extensive search and then took to the hospital. They probably saved a young life. Lay off the people doing work and save your criticism for the people who think we should have fewer police.

I was referring to the fact that police are often not acting due to county forces that govern them.

Then why is the crime rate down over the last ten years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

They are following the policies made by the MoCo authorities. The decision to tolerate crime and disorder of this sort is a policy choice. Other choices could be made, but they won’t be made by the current slate of elected officials.

It is so refreshing to find others on DCUM who understand the real problem: the council.

We can’t fault the police. The council wants fewer police (source: Reimagining Public Safety report) and that’s exactly what we getting. Now that the council realized their efforts were misguided, they literally can’t pay people to sign up. The council made this recruitment mess.

And current police? The people complaining that police don’t show up simply don’t get it. MCPD is severely understaffed! Calls are up and there are fewer police to respond. Again: that’s on the council.

You want laws enforced? Once again, look to the council. They are currently deciding whether police can even pull people over for low-level offenses. Don’t get angry at officers when you see them “ignoring” safety issues. That’s on… you guessed it… the council.

The fact we have anybody left willing to be part of MCPD is amazing.

Preventing police from wasting time on traffic enforcement is a direct action to focus limited resources towards violent crime. You are part of tue problem and not being serious about keeping our community safe.

Traffic stops can result in drugs and guns being taken off the streets and those who have outstanding warrants being taken into custody. Back to astroturfing school for you!

Exactly. Like this routine traffic stop that led to seizing meth, crack, and fentanyl from a dealer:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43029

Or this one for an expired registration taht took a semi-automatic rifle off the streets, along with drugs -- this is exactly the kind of stop Jawando's crime bill seeks to ban:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43006

Or another where 1,800 pills of fentanyl and an illegal firearm were recovered:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=42965

Imagine if these stops never took place. 1,800 pills on the market, and more peopel dying from overdoses.

And yet guns and drugs are still plentiful and perfectly easy to procure. How can that be if traffic stops supposedly stop crime?

DP.
Would you rather those drugs and guns stay in the population? We’re battling a ton of fentanyl in the schools right now, so isn’t it a good thing to make as many dents in the supply as possible?

Also, what message do we send when we look the other way at crime? The council’s general attitude toward policing rests on the assumption that crime will go away if we stop policing it.

I’m waiting for the day this bill passes. Then all the posters praising this bill’s merits are going to start complaining that roads aren’t safe and the police are doing nothing about it. They’ll forget the part where they applauded politicians for telling police to stop enforcing laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that morals and values are no longer taught in the home and children are no longer taught in the home about right and wrong.

Ultimately your local drug stores will close. They are closing in San Francisco, Chicago and New York City due to rampant theft.

I thought not incarcerating Baby Daddies any longer was so they can be a good father to all their children and single moms. Guess that backfired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The quality of life in cities will decline.

DC was a wasteland after the looting and riots during the 1960's.

Nope, people ain’t moving. Too much wealth in cities and housing stock in this country has lagged population growth for the last 3 decades. Crime up big in rural, exurbs, and suburbs too.

Where ya gonna run?

Are you kidding? Wth have you been reading the last four years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The quality of life in cities will decline.

DC was a wasteland after the looting and riots during the 1960's.

Nope, people ain’t moving. Too much wealth in cities and housing stock in this country has lagged population growth for the last 3 decades. Crime up big in rural, exurbs, and suburbs too.

Where ya gonna run?

Are you kidding? Wth have you been reading the last four years?

Highest crime and murder rates are in Republican controlled states:
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem

Murder rates soar in rural America:
https://www.wsj.com/story/murder-rates-soar-in-rural-america-bb431022

13 of 20 counties with highest gun crime rates are rural:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

Hold on - did you hear that? It’s the sound of your bubble popping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently MoCo Police refused to come to the store. CVS employees were still waiting for 45 minutes, as “no units available.”

WTF is happening with the police that they had more pressing business?

Like most local governments around here, MoCo government has been captured by soft-on-crime zealots. Not going to change anytime soon, and this is the result. Brazen crime tolerated, I’d say affirmatively welcomed, by the authorities in formerly safe areas. Watch your back, everyone. No one is coming to stop this, and it’s only going to get worse.

If this is true, then what are police doing while they are at work & collecting a paycheck?

Standing down like they are told to do

No, they were looking for a suicidal teenager, whom they found after an extensive search and then took to the hospital. They probably saved a young life. Lay off the people doing work and save your criticism for the people who think we should have fewer police.

I was referring to the fact that police are often not acting due to county forces that govern them.

Then why is the crime rate down over the last ten years?

Because lots of crimes no longer get reported, and even if they do get reported, police don't write them up at all or don't write them up correctly. One example:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/internal-documents-whistleblowers-show-alleged-underreporting-of-crime-by-dc-police-mpd/65-3ce1c9eb-ce1e-4823-a11c-66775c147b10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The quality of life in cities will decline.

DC was a wasteland after the looting and riots during the 1960's.

Nope, people ain’t moving. Too much wealth in cities and housing stock in this country has lagged population growth for the last 3 decades. Crime up big in rural, exurbs, and suburbs too.

Where ya gonna run?

Are you kidding? Wth have you been reading the last four years?

Highest crime and murder rates are in Republican controlled states:
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem

Murder rates soar in rural America:
https://www.wsj.com/story/murder-rates-soar-in-rural-america-bb431022

13 of 20 counties with highest gun crime rates are rural:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

Hold on - did you hear that? It’s the sound of your bubble popping.

Omg! Something went from a low base of 2 to 4, 100% increase!

Meanwhile anacostia and SE DC: 2230 gun crimes per month to 3100; not as big an increase, NBD.