APS and Grading for Equity - Discuss

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

I meant to say that the test corrections were also great for my NT kid. He actually went back to look at what he got wrong and figured out the correct solution. Giving partial credit for test corrections was a great incentive to go back and learn the content.

I don't mind giving students an opportunity to correct mistakes from the little quizzes along the way through a unit or topic area - for partial credit. However, for a more comprehensive exam covering the whole quarter or however the material is divided up, they should not be given retakes or opportunities to correct for a higher grade. Those should reflect the work and mastery the student put in and already acquired from the cumulative quizzes and retakes and assignments. That's all part of a reasonable learning process.

The first problem in APS, however, is that students don't ever get detailed results of many of these little quizzes and don't regularly know which questions they missed in the first place, or why they missed them. Some teachers are better than others at providing comments to explain partial credit for answers, especially in subjects like history and English. If they all did it the way you indicate in your child's experience, there wouldn't be a need for 50% minimums and endless retakes.

100% this!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

Accommodations for students with LDs are totally fine, and have been in place for a long time. But lowering the bar for ALL to the level where students with LDs don't even need accommodations anymore is stupid beyond words.

Do you know that we have an attendance problem at APS high schools? Some students only came to class once or twice in the ENTIRE school year, yet are passing the class (remember attendance can't count towards grades?) I wonder what those students were doing skipping classes on daily basis. There is no consequence whatsoever.

I had NO idea. My HS had a strict no skipping school (without parent note) and no leaving campus policy. I was punished for skipping school on senior skip day because I just happened to run into my dad on his lunch break while shopping downtown with my friends. And, I recall the Assistant Principal chasing me on the lawn several times as I tried to sneak back into the building after leaving the campus for lunch.

UMC kids skipping is a parenting problem. I know other kids skip due to family circumstances--to work and help out their families with babysitting, extra work, etc.

This is the kind of ridiculousness that fails kids. Kids should not be skipping school. Not to go skiing or to Europe or because mommy and daddy don’t pay attention. And also not to babysit or go to work or all the reasons you’ve rationalized as being more honorable. Kids are kids and should be in school. Period.

When they are not in schools, they are getting into trouble, they are ODing in parking garages and they sure as hell are not learning. There is a direct correlation between attendance and achievement. Something like 10% absences has a huge impact on kids academic success. Stop lowering standards in the name of equity. It serves no one and most definitely not kids with the odds already stacked against them.

With attendance now “optional” in theory and in practice to some degree depending on the school, any semblance of structure continues to whither away. Most students need structure to stay motivated and engaged, especially when there are so many distractions.

Check the MCPS thread on the attendance crisis at B-CC HS in Chevy Chase.

MAGA troll…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

Accommodations for students with LDs are totally fine, and have been in place for a long time. But lowering the bar for ALL to the level where students with LDs don't even need accommodations anymore is stupid beyond words.

Do you know that we have an attendance problem at APS high schools? Some students only came to class once or twice in the ENTIRE school year, yet are passing the class (remember attendance can't count towards grades?) I wonder what those students were doing skipping classes on daily basis. There is no consequence whatsoever.

I had NO idea. My HS had a strict no skipping school (without parent note) and no leaving campus policy. I was punished for skipping school on senior skip day because I just happened to run into my dad on his lunch break while shopping downtown with my friends. And, I recall the Assistant Principal chasing me on the lawn several times as I tried to sneak back into the building after leaving the campus for lunch.

UMC kids skipping is a parenting problem. I know other kids skip due to family circumstances--to work and help out their families with babysitting, extra work, etc.

So what is the consequence of skipping class? Nothing?

Grade-wise, that's right - nothing. Legally, I believe truancy is still a thing?

Yes, it’s Republican fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

I meant to say that the test corrections were also great for my NT kid. He actually went back to look at what he got wrong and figured out the correct solution. Giving partial credit for test corrections was a great incentive to go back and learn the content.

I don't mind giving students an opportunity to correct mistakes from the little quizzes along the way through a unit or topic area - for partial credit. However, for a more comprehensive exam covering the whole quarter or however the material is divided up, they should not be given retakes or opportunities to correct for a higher grade. Those should reflect the work and mastery the student put in and already acquired from the cumulative quizzes and retakes and assignments. That's all part of a reasonable learning process.

The first problem in APS, however, is that students don't ever get detailed results of many of these little quizzes and don't regularly know which questions they missed in the first place, or why they missed them. Some teachers are better than others at providing comments to explain partial credit for answers, especially in subjects like history and English. If they all did it the way you indicate in your child's experience, there wouldn't be a need for 50% minimums and endless retakes.

Why? The goal is learning the material and that can happen anywhere during the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

Accommodations for students with LDs are totally fine, and have been in place for a long time. But lowering the bar for ALL to the level where students with LDs don't even need accommodations anymore is stupid beyond words.

Do you know that we have an attendance problem at APS high schools? Some students only came to class once or twice in the ENTIRE school year, yet are passing the class (remember attendance can't count towards grades?) I wonder what those students were doing skipping classes on daily basis. There is no consequence whatsoever.

I had NO idea. My HS had a strict no skipping school (without parent note) and no leaving campus policy. I was punished for skipping school on senior skip day because I just happened to run into my dad on his lunch break while shopping downtown with my friends. And, I recall the Assistant Principal chasing me on the lawn several times as I tried to sneak back into the building after leaving the campus for lunch.

UMC kids skipping is a parenting problem. I know other kids skip due to family circumstances--to work and help out their families with babysitting, extra work, etc.

And this is why they've eliminated the "consequences" for non-attendance. I really don't believe these situations are that prevalent; and this policy does not serve these students well.

I think this just makes a farce out of attendance and school generally when rules mean nothing. Why be there at all then? You are just telling the kids it’s not important.

I mean perhaps it’s smarter to work full time during school hours, pass everything anyways, and get your diploma and have money saved up, in addition to a scholarship….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

Accommodations for students with LDs are totally fine, and have been in place for a long time. But lowering the bar for ALL to the level where students with LDs don't even need accommodations anymore is stupid beyond words.

Do you know that we have an attendance problem at APS high schools? Some students only came to class once or twice in the ENTIRE school year, yet are passing the class (remember attendance can't count towards grades?) I wonder what those students were doing skipping classes on daily basis. There is no consequence whatsoever.

I had NO idea. My HS had a strict no skipping school (without parent note) and no leaving campus policy. I was punished for skipping school on senior skip day because I just happened to run into my dad on his lunch break while shopping downtown with my friends. And, I recall the Assistant Principal chasing me on the lawn several times as I tried to sneak back into the building after leaving the campus for lunch.

UMC kids skipping is a parenting problem. I know other kids skip due to family circumstances--to work and help out their families with babysitting, extra work, etc.

And this is why they've eliminated the "consequences" for non-attendance. I really don't believe these situations are that prevalent; and this policy does not serve these students well.

So they basically eliminated the only protected time the student had. Which will only increase their absence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with learning disabilities and the increased flexibility around assignments has been amazing. Also, his school offers test corrections and retakes only after you’ve do test corrections for partial credit. I like that they go back and master the material.

I think this is absolutely fine for kids with LDs - accommodations are precisely what IEPs are for. And that's what should be happening on a case-by-case basis, not a blanket approach for everyone.

Accommodations for students with LDs are totally fine, and have been in place for a long time. But lowering the bar for ALL to the level where students with LDs don't even need accommodations anymore is stupid beyond words.

Do you know that we have an attendance problem at APS high schools? Some students only came to class once or twice in the ENTIRE school year, yet are passing the class (remember attendance can't count towards grades?) I wonder what those students were doing skipping classes on daily basis. There is no consequence whatsoever.

I had NO idea. My HS had a strict no skipping school (without parent note) and no leaving campus policy. I was punished for skipping school on senior skip day because I just happened to run into my dad on his lunch break while shopping downtown with my friends. And, I recall the Assistant Principal chasing me on the lawn several times as I tried to sneak back into the building after leaving the campus for lunch.

UMC kids skipping is a parenting problem. I know other kids skip due to family circumstances--to work and help out their families with babysitting, extra work, etc.

So what is the consequence of skipping class? Nothing?

Grade-wise, that's right - nothing. Legally, I believe truancy is still a thing?

Yeah, I sub and if it was okay to just blow off school, there would be a lot of empty seats! Plenty of kids would skip if there were no or only mild consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

If they miss tests and can't retake that would impact grades

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

Are there classes that don't require participation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

If they miss tests and can't retake that would impact grades

That is an indirect impact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

Are there classes that don't require participation?

For attending class? No, that’s not part of the grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Equitable grading" practices vary based on how the concept is implemented, but the primary stated goal of proponents is to combat "institutional bias" and eliminate racial disparities in grade outcomes through a variety of tactics. Among the least controversial is the removal of grade penalties for late assignments and the ability to retake or redo assignments, often on an unlimited basis.

But proponents of the novel grading practices also advocate the elimination of "zero grades" by using a 50-100 scale. Under that scale, a student cannot receive a grade lower than 50, even if the assignment was never submitted, thereby creating a much higher grade floor and enabling students to achieve passing grades more easily.

Key Points of "Grading for Equity" at APS:

1. no late penalty on homework or any class assignment
2. allow unlimited retakes and redos
3. 50% min. score (even if you did nothing)
4. homework can't count towards grades
5. Final exams weigh heavily (but don't forget point #2 above)
6. attendance can't count towards grades (hey if you think you can pass that final exam, no need to come to class anymore)

Basically, every student will pass their courses, no more fails. achievement gap will be closed.

All based on just a random guy's book, not research based. No data support. Sounds familiar? yes, Joe Feldman is the new Lucy Calkins.

This is absolutely correct. Most shocking is that kids literally have zero consequences for cutting class. Sure their parents might be informed but no impact on class grade at all. So go ahead and cut class all you want, copy the assignments off someone and then retake until you learn the test enough to pass w a decent grade. Kids are smart and already gaming the system.

There are students who come to school at best 10% of the time but still pass the class. No consequence whatsoever.

Wait, non-attendance has zero consequences for your grades? Has anyone told the travel forum?!

Why would attendance ever affect grades?

If kids attend enough that they aren’t truant and they do well on assignments what is the big deal?

If they miss tests and can't retake that would impact grades

But they can retake. They start w 50 and can always retake.